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Any thoughts on why when I follow the instructions in the manual I still can;t turn off the down hill crawl when in 4wd off road gear?
put it in park
hold down the ESP off button forever, or until the "ESP off" shows on the dash.

If it doesn't turn off, do a search here for ESP off and get the dealer to fix it.
 
For those of you with FDII, did you guys know about premium fuel while off-roading? I've never knew that and just came across it while going through the manual.

NOTE: For maximum off-road performance, premium
fuel is recommended. While the vehicle will operate on
regular fuel when in L Off-Road mode, the engine has
been calibrated for maximum performance using premium
fuel.
 
I've seen that for premium fuel, but my off roading is mixed with regular on road and highway driving, so I always just use regular. If I were going off road for a day, maybe I would fill up with premium.

I have got the down hill crawl to go off since my earlier posts. You just need to turn the ESP full off. I had it full off last weekend to get up my hill. Was tough, had to use 4 chains too, and part of the way up I was going sideways, but I made it. Then on Sunday when going down the hill, I had to remember to let the ESP on (I think it's only partially on when in L off road gear anyway) so that the down hill crawl would work. It's nice to just steer and let the Patriot do the rest going down steep icy hills, keeping me from sliding into ditches or off the road.
 
I've seen that for premium fuel, but my off roading is mixed with regular on road and highway driving, so I always just use regular. If I were going off road for a day, maybe I would fill up with premium.

I have got the down hill crawl to go off since my earlier posts. You just need to turn the ESP full off. I had it full off last weekend to get up my hill. Was tough, had to use 4 chains too, and part of the way up I was going sideways, but I made it. Then on Sunday when going down the hill, I had to remember to let the ESP on (I think it's only partially on when in L off road gear anyway) so that the down hill crawl would work. It's nice to just steer and let the Patriot do the rest going down steep icy hills, keeping me from sliding into ditches or off the road.
would there be any difference in reg and prem on road?
 
In the old days, with those different engines, premium could add some MPGs, and the difference was only a few cents back then. I doubt you'd get any advantage by using premium in our 4cyl Patriot.
 
I used Premium in my Ranger, 3 Litter V6, and it made my check engine light come on. It did not make a difference. The Ranger ran better with reg. I have not noticed any problems with my FDII in deep snow with reg. That is in there for the gas companies.
 
It has been raining a lot here and I went venturing down some back alley's/trails. They were heavily rutted but clearance wasn't an issue. When the tires were full of mud I couldn't turn out of the ruts at all.

Has anyone else experienced this?

I am assuming that better tires would correct this.
 
I am assuming that better tires would correct this.
Yep, especially if you go with a mud tire. The compromise with the tires you have is that they are comfortable and fuel efficient, and good enough off road. They may not have pulled you out of the ruts, but you didn't get stuck, right? :) That being said, and all terrain tire may be a better comprimise
 
Dear all,

I would like to share with all of you what is the situation of the Patriot in Europe. First of all, declare that I was a potential customer of a Pat due to I always dreamed with having a Jeep, and I thought that now was the moment for having one.

In Europe, the Patriot only has one engine, an awesome 2.0 L diesel, CRD, from Volkswagen with declared 140 hp, 155 hp real. This is the same engine for the Compass, Caliber diesel, Avenger diesel and of course, many Audi, VW and others in Europe. The fuel consumpsion of this engine is very good (5.5-6.7-8.8 liters/100 km, extraurban-mixed-urban).

Unfortunately, the Patriot in Europe has been released in just ONE version, having the Freedom Drive I and no off-road package option available. The guys of Jeep has ruined this model here because nobody is interested on it, the housewifes prefer to buy the Compass for carrying their babys to the school, the main utility of a SUV as everybody knows. Thus, here the Patriot is just a very limited SUV, and very expensive, 22500 euros in Spain (31300 $).

Very lucky all of you having a Pat Trail Rated (FD II + off road package) due to really this version can be considered as a real 4x4, not like the girly version delivered in Europe, useless at all under off-road conditions. Hope I could see at any time a Patriot CRD Trail Rated before I died.

Just before leaving, is it true that Fiat is going to provide the engines for many jeeps next year onwards, or is just for ruining the company in Europe???, nooooooooooooooooo.......!!!!

Thanks and enjoy your Pats
That is not fault of Jeep. Your government blocked the trail rated because of the lower gas mileage. Blame it on your liberal socialistic govt. Ours is headed the same direction, though.

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CrazyIvan, it looks like he decided against purchasing 3 years ago. I don't think he's coming back to read your post...

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It has been raining a lot here and I went venturing down some back alley's/trails. They were heavily rutted but clearance wasn't an issue. When the tires were full of mud I couldn't turn out of the ruts at all.

Has anyone else experienced this?

I am assuming that better tires would correct this.
Tires would make a HUGE difference. But you also need to air down and there are other techniques you can use, but better tires is step one. My wrangler SRA's lasted 2300 miles before getting a better tire.
 
I wheeled my 2010 FDII ALOT. went everywhere I pointed it, winter or summer. it really is very capable. I am adding the FDII skids on my new 2015 FDI.
 
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