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Yesterday I test drove the Kia Soul and Jeep Patriot back to back. Here are my thoughts:

It's hard to believe that these two vehicles are within an inch of each other in width and height (with the Patriot being 12 inches longer); the Patriot feels larger than it actually is, whereas with the Soul you're very aware that you're in a compact vehicle. The Patriot feels much more substantial than the Soul.

In regard to road feel, the Patriot feels a lot more solid. The Soul handles bumps and potholes much better than most compacts, but the Patriot performed even better. The steering wheel in the Soul had a tinker toy quality, contrasting poorly with the heftier steering wheel in the Patriot.

Rearward visibility is poor in both vehicles, but noticeably worse in the Soul. The Soul has slightly better forward visibility, though. Quality of the interior materials is about the same.

Overall, I think the Patriot is the better vehicle and a better value. I can't imagine purchasing a Soul over a Patriot, unless it was priced at LEAST $4,000 less than a similarly equipped Patriot, or maybe if you're a college kid who really digs the exterior styling of the Soul.

While I was at the Jeep dealership, I also sat in a 2008 Patriot for comparison's sake. When I had first seen photos of the 2009 interior I didn't think it looked as good as the 2008 interior. However, after sitting in both back to back, I MUCH prefer the new 2009 interior. The curves in the new interior are pretty subtle and don't detract from the Jeepness of the vehicle at all. Further, the dash seems much more solid in the new interior. The plastics in the new interior have a much better feel to the touch, but don't seem vulnerable to scratching. I don't have any doubts about the durability of the 2009 interior.
 
Thanks for the info. I have yet to try a Kia that doesn't have that "toy" feel. I tend to like a solid feel to my vehicles. The Kia probably gets better fuel mileage with it's smaller engine, but it won't have the same utility.
 
Thanks for the info. I have yet to try a Kia that doesn't have that "toy" feel. I tend to like a solid feel to my vehicles. The Kia probably gets better fuel mileage with it's smaller engine, but it won't have the same utility.
you'll be surprised how poor the Kia Soul's MPG's is for its size. read the specs on their website. from hearing the #'s that people are getting on this site...the Patriot has the Kia Soul beat as long as you don't get the FDII
 
Nope, sorry. It's got a back like one of those eccentric French Citroens or Renaults, you know the ones; the adverts go, "I see you, Baby, shakin' that ass." And, furthermore, I'd like to take their promo video to task; it should be "separating you and me", not "separating you and I."
Not bothered how it performs off-road; I wouldn't be off road in it...

Rocal
 
is the soul offered in a 4x4 or more likely awd platform, if not then I guess it would have to be a 4x2 patiort it would be compared too, i guess what i'm getting at is, i bought a jeep becasue its a jeep aka 4x4 although i know lots of people don't share the same mentality about their jeep.
 
I thought you were going to compare the Patriot to the Sorento by Kia.

The Kia Sedona (minivan) doesn't feel like a toy... just wish it would last longer. Our 06 just rolled 50k and it seems like every month I am taking it in to have one small thing after another fixed/replaced. It's all covered under the warranty - but come on... I am getting tired of visiting the dealership. It was very reliable up to the 50K mark for us.
 
Yesterday I test drove the Kia Soul and Jeep Patriot back to back. Here are my thoughts:

It's hard to believe that these two vehicles are within an inch of each other in width and height (with the Patriot being 12 inches longer); the Patriot feels larger than it actually is, whereas with the Soul you're very aware that you're in a compact vehicle. The Patriot feels much more substantial than the Soul.

In regard to road feel, the Patriot feels a lot more solid. The Soul handles bumps and potholes much better than most compacts, but the Patriot performed even better. The steering wheel in the Soul had a tinker toy quality, contrasting poorly with the heftier steering wheel in the Patriot.

Rearward visibility is poor in both vehicles, but noticeably worse in the Soul. The Soul has slightly better forward visibility, though. Quality of the interior materials is about the same.

Overall, I think the Patriot is the better vehicle and a better value. I can't imagine purchasing a Soul over a Patriot, unless it was priced at LEAST $4,000 less than a similarly equipped Patriot, or maybe if you're a college kid who really digs the exterior styling of the Soul.

While I was at the Jeep dealership, I also sat in a 2008 Patriot for comparison's sake. When I had first seen photos of the 2009 interior I didn't think it looked as good as the 2008 interior. However, after sitting in both back to back, I MUCH prefer the new 2009 interior. The curves in the new interior are pretty subtle and don't detract from the Jeepness of the vehicle at all. Further, the dash seems much more solid in the new interior. The plastics in the new interior have a much better feel to the touch, but don't seem vulnerable to scratching. I don't have any doubts about the durability of the 2009 interior.
That's really good to hear but what about the Korean autoworkers,have you considered their livelihood?
 
I agree with Scott; I'd have thought that the Sportage was the competition, the Soul just looks like a, well, car! And a French car at that!
Rocal

No offence, Quebec, eh?

Why the hell does this stupid new computer keep telling me how to spell?
"Offense"? Who the hell spells offence like that, eh? It'll be telling me to leave the "u" out of colour next. Jayz! It did!
 
Compared to most of the smaller vehicles I like the fact the Pat has more of a crush zone for the back seat passengers, ditto for the front. Just took the first major highway trip, Prince George to Edmonton, four adults lots of luggage and I was impressed. Never ran out of power and averaged 30 miles per imperial gallon, mix of highway and freeway speeds. Everyone was comfortable. The boxy shape of the Pat. sure works for cramming in luggage. Only two gripes, the above average road noise and wish the steering was variable ratio.
 
For as short a time as the Soul's have been out, I have seen no less than 4 of them on flat beds being towed to the shop. Never had a Kia or tried one but, if seeing is believing, I think the Soul has some issues to sort out big time.
 
For as short a time as the Soul's have been out, I have seen no less than 4 of them on flat beds being towed to the shop. Never had a Kia or tried one but, if seeing is believing, I think the Soul has some issues to sort out big time.
i think you are mistaken when you think they were headed for the shop...chances are they are being delivered to the dealers.
 
I agree with Scott; I'd have thought that the Sportage was the competition, the Soul just looks like a, well, car! And a French car at that!
Rocal

No offence, Quebec, eh?

Why the hell does this stupid new computer keep telling me how to spell?
"Offense"? Who the hell spells offence like that, eh? It'll be telling me to leave the "u" out of colour next. Jayz! It did!
I have never seen a computer ask Queen's English? American English? or Down Under English? Perhaps we need to press the issue.

I can see it now, I'll type elevator, and the computer will ask, did you mean lift?" ;)


I agree, the Soul is a poor comparison to the Patriot.
 
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