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#21 ·
A turbo Patriot would be interesting, but it kinda goes against the grain of the whole Jeep thing. Maybe just make it a bit more turbo-friendly in case anybody wants to go aftermarket. Would be interesting to see a V6 in the Patriot, with a better-tuned CVT, but 9 speeds is too many for something the size of the Cherokar, let alone a Patriot. Could be interesting to see a more advanced off-road system, but if they introduce that "select which terrain you're on" dial in the Patriot, I'm gonna be ticked. Not to mention anything more advanced could make some current Patriot owners feel a little left out, but I can't speak for anybody on that one.
 
#22 ·
RossoRacer said:
A turbo Patriot would be interesting, but it kinda goes against the grain of the whole Jeep thing. Maybe just make it a bit more turbo-friendly in case anybody wants to go aftermarket. Would be interesting to see a V6 in the Patriot, with a better-tuned CVT, but 9 speeds is too many for something the size of the Cherokar, let alone a Patriot. Could be interesting to see a more advanced off-road system, but if they introduce that "select which terrain you're on" dial in the Patriot, I'm gonna be ticked. Not to mention anything more advanced could make some current Patriot owners feel a little left out, but I can't speak for anybody on that one.
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If they turbo it they should tune it for low end torque. Turbos add so much more efficiency and power and would make an improvement on pretty much any car. Just look at the new F-150's. The new ecoboost puts out more power than the largest engine they've ever had and with better gas mileage than the patriot and it's cheaper than buying the bigger gas hog engine.

The select terrain stuff these days is for those that don't know how to drive in certain conditions. Easily replaced buy a good brain to foot connection. Now a days cars are at the point where you don't have to think to drive(which can be a good thing) but I see it more as just making drivers dumber.

Edit: Don't get me wrong I love abs and esp (especially trying to confuse them and push the limits:p) but that's where I draw the line.
 
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I was going to say they should update the engine and transmission to get better fuel economy since most other vehicles in the Patriot/Compass class are getting into the 30mgg+ range, but then I looked at the Cherokee and realized it isn't delivering that anyway. There is almost no difference between the Patriot 4x4 automatic and the Cherokee 4x4 4cyl automatic in terms of fuel economy. Fuel economy isn't driving sales right now anyway.
 
#24 ·
Sarkus said:
I was going to say they should update the engine and transmission to get better fuel economy since most other vehicles in the Patriot/Compass class are getting into the 30mgg+ range, but then I looked at the Cherokee and realized it isn't delivering that anyway. There is almost no difference between the Patriot 4x4 automatic and the Cherokee 4x4 4cyl automatic in terms of fuel economy. Fuel economy isn't driving sales right now anyway.
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Yup. If people are thinking they are getting good fuel economy with the Patriot, they might be a little surprised. As I've mentioned in previous threads, my Patriot doesn't do all that great at fuel wise and in my case, has been worse than my wife's 6 cylinder Wrangler overall. When both are in 4x4 though, the Patriot does better overall.
 
#25 ·
Odd how you guys don't get mpg's that good. I can easily get 27-29mpg on a flat interstate when mine isn't loaded down. Probably that 6-spd or something. I get more RPM's in "6th" in autostick than in regular CVT mode, that could be part of the difference. Without a CVT, you don't get the economy/power balance.
 
#26 ·
Yeah, no CVT in mine. That's one of the reasons I bought the FDI instead of the FDII, because I heard horror stories about the CVT. I was just really surprised it didn't get better fuel economy for being a smaller 2.4, 4 cylinder.
 
#27 ·
RossoRacer said:
Odd how you guys don't get mpg's that good. I can easily get 27-29mpg on a flat interstate when mine isn't loaded down. Probably that 6-spd or something. I get more RPM's in "6th" in autostick than in regular CVT mode, that could be part of the difference. Without a CVT, you don't get the economy/power balance.
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The new 6spd has better ratios than our CVT and is rated to get better MPG highway as well. Our old outdated CVT is not as good as it should be. Back when I was completely stock I averaged 25 MPG. I would hit 30MPG on a few occasions even traveling offroad. Then I added 150 lbs of gear, mud tires, Front and rear TAG bumpers and I'm now averaging just over 21 MPG. The Pat really shines on curvy, hilly roads where your speed stays between 45 and 55 mph. With the cruise set at 78MPH on this last trip to visit the inlaws I averaged 18.5ish on the freeway 21-22 bumming around town. Keep the Pat under 65 to get the best mileage.
 
#28 ·
Even at 65-70mph, I still get pretty good mileage, though my few custom parts probably helps a little.
 
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