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nah...

took it to the dealer and made them take a test drive with me. they said 'yes', there is an issue and that lots of Pats have had to have their bushings replaced. parts ordered and they will install next week. its a warranty thing, get er done!
 
I had same problem with 2008 Patriot from day 1 (now at 1600km).

I noticed the noise came when hitting a bump or hole, but mainly at rapid/stiff shock movement. It was worse when I hit bump/hole while going in curve to the right.
No noise at other time when suspension travelled slowly.

However when that noise came out, it was like a dry/sharp metal-to-metal noise. Also when driving on a gravel road, it sounded like if I had a metalic box filled with hardware that was rattling under the dash.

I brought it at dealer and managed to reproduce the sound next to the technician.
They simply tighten bolts on the left link arm and left lower tab.
They had seen same problem once before on another brand new Patriot.

Now the sound is gone!
Exactly the same problem (and "solution") here but then the noise came out again about a month later. Took it to dealer again and this time they replaced the bolts and now the noise is gone for good! :banana:

Noise came out the first time at 500 Kms (300 miles aprox.).

Ed
 
Exactly the same problem (and "solution") here but then the noise came out again about a month later. Took it to dealer again and this time they replaced the bolts and now the noise is gone for good! :banana:

Noise came out the first time at 500 Kms (300 miles aprox.).

Ed
Hi Ed - I sent you a PM on this. Please take a look.
Pepe
 
nah...

took it to the dealer and made them take a test drive with me. they said 'yes', there is an issue and that lots of Pats have had to have their bushings replaced. parts ordered and they will install next week. its a warranty thing, get er done!
I have the same noise everytime I hit a pot hole or speed bump. I've taken mine to two different Jeep dealers both say they couldn't find a thing! I just took it to Midas and they said it's the left tie rod! Unreal. Midas can find the problem but dealer can't? Also when I had my leather seat split Jeep dealer didn't want to replace it. I think my dealerships just don't want warranty work on the books. I now need to find another Jeep dealership. I'm beginning to hate Jeep Dealerships altogether now.

Anyways Deltaboy if you could just ask them to look at your tie rod and see what they say about that. I'll have them look at the bushings etc just to make sure. Thanks.
 
is this issue fixed with the 2009 Patriot?

So the 2009 Patriot is supposed to have an "improved suspension" as they advertise...does anyone know if Chrysler issued an internal fix to the 2009 version? I would like to know because I just got a new job offer in north jersey and most likely will be taking advantage of the military discount and graduate from my honda civic to a jeep patriot. it would just be nice to know if chrysler fixed this with the 2009 version's "new and improved suspension"

thanks!

-josh
 
my rear passenger side creeks on every bump i take at slow speeds, didn't really notice it untill i put the lift on, Cake, eat it too...etc, etc. : )
anyone know what type of lube i could use and where to use it
Coming from the rear end after lift??

That's the new control arms. I had the same issue.
get a good quality lube and give the control arms a good lube.

Especially the rubber ends and the bolt that goes into the arms and tightens to the frame. Will take a few k's to go away. Mine took about 3000km's.
Also lube the sway bar rubbers.

I still some times get the noise only while giving it good articulation in the bush. But on the roads and bumps all quiet no probs..

When I put the lift in it was loud as fark. But a good quality lube fixed that. Make sure its water proof also.
 
Coming from the rear end after lift??

That's the new control arms. I had the same issue.
get a good quality lube and give the control arms a good lube.

Especially the rubber ends and the bolt that goes into the arms and tightens to the frame. Will take a few k's to go away. Mine took about 3000km's.
Also lube the sway bar rubbers.

I still some times get the noise only while giving it good articulation in the bush. But on the roads and bumps all quiet no probs..

When I put the lift in it was loud as fark. But a good quality lube fixed that. Make sure its water proof also.
Howdy again Aus... remember I had the same problem shortly putting the lift kit on. That creaking sound never went away. I have gotten all areas lubricated as recommended, at the dealer. They insisted everything was tightened and lubed up. So if it's just the noise, I'm gonna have to live with it. Just the other day, I noticed the front driver's side doing it too, when I hit a deeper pothole in the packed ice/snow at a slow speed... it's done that a few times here and there since then. I think its all about physics - when and where I'm doing the articulation, at what speed, or if Im turning my wheels at the same time... etc etc. During the recent warm spell, it has been more moist, and Im certain a lot of dirt, mud, and slush have built up underneath.
 
My front suspension makes a clunking noise over speed bumps to. I've mentioned it to the dealership and they will look at it when it goes in for servicing next week.

They are also going to look at the faulty cigarette lighter and the minor pull to the left when driving.
 
Creaking being fixed... Overnited parts...

Dealer is currently fixing my "creaking front suspension" They diagnosed it as the sway bar bushings are bad. I know a lot of these problems have had different fixes, but I am pushing 21,000 miles, so I'm taking it in for everything now. GET THEM FIXED! It's all under warranty. Just blew my first fuse too, might look for the thread on that....
 
Same problem with front suspension. It sounds like it exceeds early when needed. I haven't talked with dealer or service yet, but I'm going in for a mini-service in abt 1.500km and I'm definitely checking it.
 
Got my Jeep back this morning! They did wonderful work and now it is silent just like day one! I think that once my warranty is up and I have any bushing problems I'll look for something "lifetime" in the aftermarket world to replace the stock bushings, but I hope that is long down the road...
 
I finally got my front creaking fixed. It's the front sway bar bushings that are making the noise. My service tech at the dealership told me it's the rubber compound they use on the Pat's bushings that causes noise whenever the swaybar twists. They're just noisy bushings even when new.

They greased both of them really well and the noise is gone for now. However I fear it will return once the grease dries up and/or washes off. I guess I'll just take it back in and have them keep regreasing as long as it's under warranty.

Maybe if Chrysler gets tired of paying for all of the greasings if people take theirs in, they'll release an updated bushing that doesn't have this issue. Not a major big deal or anything, just an annoyance.

NP
 
Tightening the bolts is it. Had the same front end noise & that fixed it. There is a TSB on it somewhere here. Show it to the dealer & they can fix the noise quickly.
 
I took mine into the dealer for the suspension creak...dealer said it was one of the worst they have heard...diagnosed it for free...they believe the majority of the noise is coming from the sway bar bushings that mount to the sub-frame...turns out they can't replace them under warranty if all that's wrong is they are covered in dirt...quoted me ~$200 to replace the bushings...most of that is labor 'cause the bushing are only about $20...I plan on taking it to a local alignment shop (they did a good job aligning it after my lift and spacers) who has quoted me ~$95 to do the job.

I find it interesting that a Trail Rated Jeep that is suppose to forge something like 19" of water has major bushing issues once you take it off road to play in a little mud. I can only wonder if the new Toyota FJ Cruisers experience the same thing.

I plan on seeing how these new clean bushings with a ton of grease perform and I'll probably begin looking into the cost of having custom grease inserts installed by a local off road shop.

FWIW - I did take some spray lubricant made for rubber and such and soaked the bushings...turns out that only made it worse.
 
turns out they can't replace them under warranty if all that's wrong is they are covered in dirt...quoted me ~$200 to replace the bushings....
This manufacturing defect should absolutely be covered under warranty, I have had mine done (the squeak showed up very early in my Pat's life - it was bad enough that pedestrians gave me dirty looks when I went over speed bumps) and they not only replaced those bushings but gave me a loaner vehicle for a few days since it is such a big job. My cost? $0 period, like the other defect I had fixed under warranty (lifting roof seals). Calling it a "manufacturing defect" to the service writer also helps. When warranty work is performed, the technician still gets paid, the parts department still gets paid, the service writer AND service manager still get paid. Granted, it takes more time to get paid, and a few of them get paid a little less when Chrysler pays the bill as opposed to a customer. If they tell you otherwise they are just lazy or greedy or both. Mostly greedy. Speaking to a warranty administrator can help, they can show you in writing exactly why something would not be covered. Swaybar bushings are not wear items, basically they are there because anything else used to mount a swaybar to a vehicle would probably SQUEAK...

My squeak has since returned (only when it is hot outside) and they are going to fix it again at my next service. Just make sure you can reproduce the symptom.

Also, mine was (and always is) covered in mud underneath since I very frequently drive on dirt roads, sometimes in the rain (mud roads?) and they don't care, after all, it IS a Jeep.

My advice is to find a new dealer.

Sounds like your dealer is probably one of the ones in "the Valley" that also charges extra $$ on the addendum sticker for new vehicles, like a "Desert Protection Package" or similar, which is 100% total greed. I like to call these BS Charges. Call them out on it (they will have a canned response) then ask to see this "package" performed on a new vehicle while it is being prepped, and watch them squirm. They know it is just a run through the automatic carwash. Same thing for $7 down the street at the gas station! Any good salesman will remove these charges in order to seal a deal because they are fully aware of what is real $$ and what isn't. Most dealers I went to had about a $400 BS charge, one dealer in the "central" valley had a $1,000 charge on every vehicle on the lot! Are you kidding? Another had a variable "market value" charge for vehicles with "rare" options like SRT Grands or FDII Pats! These little scams combined with the circle of sloppy salesmen talking and smoking that didn't have the "time" to greet me caused me to leave these dealers quickly and tell everyone I know about them. When a customer has a good experience they tell a few people, when they have a bad one they tell EVERYONE...

Anyway I digress...

I go to Airpark Jeep in Scottsdale. I am in no way affiliated with them, just happy with my experiences there. (I had one "issue" a few days after the original deal, but it was solved quickly by the General Manager when they called me - I didn't ask for details but I am glad I didn't get pulled over the first few days in my new Jeep since the plate didn't match the registration - they also gave me a $50 gift card for my "trouble" of stopping by and having the plate changed) Overall I am very satisfied with how they treat me every time I am there. I initially decided to give them my business because they were the ONLY Chrysler/Jeep dealer in the greater Phoenix area (believe me I went to them ALL while shopping new) that had no extroneous BS charges on their new vehicle stickers. There was a small ($99 I think) "paint protection" addendum that my salesman removed from the deal when I questioned it.

P.S. About 11 years ago I bought a new 1998 Dodge Neon R/T. Its head gasket failed at about 40K miles (out of the 36K warranty), like EVERY other 1995-1999 Neon eventually did, and poured engine oil out the back of the engine by the quart. Some dealers were charging crazy fees to repair it, others weren't. It was a well-known manufacturing defect (a new design of the actual gasket was implemented) and Chrysler decided to "good will" my repair with a $100 fee because my 5-Star dealer asked them to. Some other people got screwed by their dealer for $1,000's. It is what separates the good dealers from the bad greedy ones....
 
Thanks for the info...I normally deal with Airpark Jeep but my advisor there told me that he would have to charge me a diagnostic fee just to look at it since I lifted the Jeep...if they found it to be a warranty issue, they would refund the fee...at that point he advised me to take it into another dealer to see if they would look at it for free...that dealer said they could warranty it if they were cracked but since they weren't cracked, the repair would be on my dollar.

I agree with you about the dealers around here...I went to Airpark and the put together a good deal but Darner in Mesa ended up beating them and I got the color I wanted.
 
UPDATE - I paid $95 at a local alignment shop over the weekend to have the swaybar bushing replaced with OEM replacements. This eliminated ALL the creaking/sqeaking noises coming from the front. I'm guessing it would've only cost my about $75 to have the original ones removed, cleaned, greased and re-installed...I'll probably try that when the noise comes back.

I'm guessing the noises coming from the rear are from the rear sway bar bushings and they just need to be cleaned and greased too. Right now it's only noticable over speed bumps and even then it's not loud enough to pay for the cleaning.
 
I had a clunking noise occur about three weeks ago. I spent the better part of three days crawling underneath, having the wife press down on it, but finally was able to simulate the sound by firmly jerking the front right (the side and area the noise was coming form) coil spring. This produced the sound every time, well until I grabbed the sway bar extension because I fell. So then I held the swaybar extension and jerked the coil sping and low and behold no clunk. Then after a few more experiments I decided to replace the sway bar extension. It cost me about 75 bucks and took about an hour. Not too bad to get rid of all the clunking and creaking. Since this fixed mine it may be an issue with others too.
 
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