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There are many alternatives to Turtle. Collinite 476 for instance is an excellent wax that will give a nice shine and last many months. And it's only $16 at Autogeek.net
 
I've been using a product called REJEX for about a year. It's an aircraft grade polymer sealant that produces a fantastic shine that lasts 3-4 mos.

Bugs, grime & salt just rinse off.

It's about $12 for a 16 oz. bottle and available through skygeek.com if you can't find it locally. Read more about it in the detailing section of bobistheoilguy.com.

Already have 3 coats on my new Patriot getting ready for Michigan's winter.
 
With all the raildust I have acquired this winter it looks like I will be using a clay bar before I get to any wax. After that, I think I will try the turtle wax ice wax and see how that works.
 
In leiu of starting a whole new thread, are all clay bars the same or are their better brands? I have never used a clay bar in the past as I have never really had occassion to.

Is there any down side to using a clay bar on a newer vehicle or is it just fine and dandy? They all say they won't hurt the clear coat but lots of products say lots of things.
 
I use clay on all my vehicles, old and new. In fact, I just did my Compass and my wife's new vehicle last month. I had Zaino first, and now Clay Magic as a recommended clay that I could pick up locally at Autozone. Most detailing clay is of similar quality. I don't like to use the detail spray. I tried it for the first time last month and prefer to do it after I hand wash my vehicles with fresh soap mix.

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I use clay on all my vehicles, old and new. In fact, I just did my Compass and my wife's new vehicle last month. I had Zaino first, and now Clay Magic as a recommended clay that I could pick up locally at Autozone. Most detailing clay is of similar quality. I don't like to use the detail spray. I tried it for the first time last month and prefer to do it after I hand wash my vehicles with fresh soap mix.

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Cool, I still have 2 months before the weather might allow it, but just want to start getting the supplies before too long.

By detail spray, what do you mean. For example I know Turtle Wax Ice makes a liquid wax and a spray detailer. I was thinking of trying the liquid wax. I like the idea of well, being lazy and being able to use it on all the surfaces of the vehicle.
 
If you rub a chunk of clay across the paint, it will not be effective and probably smear, leaving some clay on the paint. The surface must be lubricated. Most clay is sold in kits with a spray bottle of lubricant, not the same stuff as a detail spray or spray wax. The theory is spray on a section of paint, rub clay gently across paint until it glides across (you'll feel it smooth out), then wipe off the lubricant with a towel. I just found in my one example using the Clay Magic spray that it was not as effective and I still got smearing. A better nozzle or adjustable one that allows a finer mist might work better. Since it is winter and I don't have running water in my garage, I relied on the the spray this time. It worked, but took longer to remove the clay I left on the paint.

Since you are waiting for spring/warmer weather anyway, just wash your Jeep, then clean the bucket/wash mitt and make a new soap solution. Spread the sudsy stuff on a body panel and use the clay. Lots of cheap lubricant that way. Hose it off and dry the whole car when you're done.

As for sealants vs. carnuba wax, they both work. A good sealant is better for most people. Easy to work with and lasts the longest. I have a supply of Zaino products that I'll never use up in my lifetime, but I'd try Duragloss #105 available through local NAPA stores. TW Ice has a good reputation as well.
 
If you rub a chunk of clay across the paint, it will not be effective and probably
Thanks for the good info. I see there are alot of clay bar videos on you tube and will check those out as well.
 
Do you REALLY need to wax the Pat to maintain color?
The short answer is no, but it helps. A paint polishing from time to time (it can be once every couple of years) really helps restore the color and good shape of the paint. A professional detailer can do that for you for not a lot of money.
 
The point of paint protection is to prevent discoloration in the first place. With clear coated paints today, one could never wax their car and the body panels/paint/color would be the least of his concerns while the vehicle ages. It's all in how you want the vehicle to look both now and 5/10 years from now.
 
I use a bucket of Wash-Wax anytime it looks dirty & a coat of Wax polish once a year!!
 
My Jeep (White) is easy just wash and wax with Meguiar's Gold Class, nothing special.

My truck (Black) is a PITA.

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Claybar
Meguiar's Ultimate Finishing Polish 32 (Swirl/Scuff/Paint transfer Remover)
Meguiar's Deep Crystal Carnuba Wax
Meguiar's NXT

I do this every 6 months. In between I just wash weekly and use NXT on a monthly basis.

Before destickering and debadging

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After destickering and debadging (Blurry pic)

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Menzerna One Step Acrylic Jacket...The last wax and polish you'll ever use. Absolutely love this stuff. A bit pricey, but well worth the extra cash if you must have a wax and slight polish in the same container, look at that shine....... can't beat it.

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Wow, I adore that view! :cool: Would just love to live at a place like that.

I use Turtle Wax with teflon once a year in the autumn. Lasts for the whole year, shines, repels dust, dirt and water. Wonder when something based on the nano technology becomes available. That will really be something - no dust, dirt, bird sh*tt or anything will hold on to the stuff! We won`t even ever have to wash our rides no more, they`ll never get dirty! :smiley_thumbs_up:
 
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