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I own a FDI 2008 patriot. the stock tires in europe are 215 6017 and probably 1 inch lower ground clearance than US FDII

Before ordering my 225 6517 tires (continental cross LX 2), they must be around 28.5 inches. I went to the tire shop and tried one to check how it fits.

I used an old Bridgestone Dueler 2256517 and installed on the front right wheel

Below I have attached some fotos to have ur opinions

The tire technically did not rub. However at full lock there is less than 1 cm space from the end of the tire till the well (ie about 1 finger). (2nd foto)[/B]

Given also that the trial tire was a used one, when putting the new one the space might be even less.

I also went over an incline surface (3rd foto) and still did not rub, but I am concerned what might happen if there is a more violent compression, eg when falling in a hole on a tarmac (on bad maintained roads...)


1) Should I go forth and install them??

2) You guys that installed bigger tires, what is the generaly accepted empty space between the end of tire and tire well?



In term of looks, it definatelly makes a difference, and the pic cannot in no way give justice to how it really looks. it makes the pat look great...

In 1st foto the front tire is a 2256517 tire and the rear is the stock 2156017
 

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225 65 17

Hi there, greetings from Patriot owner in beautiful Mani! Silver, Limited, grippy tyres and gecko stickers ( gecko is the ULTIMATE 4x4)

Yes, 225 65 17 fit. I have had 225 65 17 Yokohama Geolandar AT/S on my 2008 Patriot for 4 years now. Not lifted, stock rims, these tyres are actually a more comfortable ride than the OEM Conti's, plus have more inherent sidewall strength and tread depth. Plus, they look better! Plenty of pics on tyre threads. Copy and paste:- Which tires fit & which ones don't (17") - into the search box, Forum members compiled what must be the definitive guide.

I did fit 3mm spacers to all wheels, however, just to be sure no rubbing due load and/or shock compression. No problems, either at speed or forest tracks, or the less than well maintained roads in these parts (lots of nice deep holes). Only rubbing I've ever had was compacted snow thrown up by wheels crossing Switzerland, and friction takes this off even as it builds.

With 3mm spacers there is also no need to replace the existing wheel studs, still plenty of thread left for wheelnuts.

Gimme a wave if you're down this way, there aren't a lot of us!
 
Discussion starter · #3 · (Edited)
Hi

How was the ride and rub prior ti spacers? (cause spacers is sth I definately want to avoid)



I guess u have the FDI right? diesel or petrol? Have u noticed any hindrance from the heavier tires (cause most members here with larger tires and lifts are FD II)

Did u have to do allignment after the bigger tires? Cause my tire shop says it is irrelevant?


do u know there is also a greek patriot forum (though last year with the crisis its not very active, in the past we had organised some meetings) and a fb team
 
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My Patriot is a UK spec Limited, so is equivalent to FD1, and is a 2.0 diesel. Bags of torque, and cheaper than petrol in most of mainland Europe that I travel

I fitted spacers at same time as the 225 65 Geolandar A/Ts, so can't comment on 225 65's without spacers other than saying that 3mm probably won't feel any different, it just gives a better clearance margin for front wheels when turning on full lock, and also for snow chains. Weight change from OEM 215 60 Conti's to 225 65 Yoko Geolandar A/Ts is pretty insignificant. I don't feel it through steering, but wife claimed to notice it but got used to it quickly.

Biggest change I had to make was getting rid of the insulation/soundproofing in the spare wheel well, as the larger tyre just would not go in and allow the floor (cover) to sit flat. Minus insulation, wheel fits nice and snug, and I've never thought it was any noisier without. Or maybe I just like my music loud?

Had alignment checked after changes, just seemed prudent for the small cost involved, as I really didn't want to discover, half way across Europe in mid winter 2010, that I should have had it done!
 
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Finally installed the 225 65 17 Continental Cross LX 2 (labeled as 80% asphalt 20% off road)

They are 28,52 inches diameter 1,18 inc = 3,5 cm bigger diameter, so gave about 0,4 inch = 1,7 cm bigger clearance

Numerically It is not such a big number, but in term of looks they make a major difference that the picture cant tell. The bigger weels make it more macho :pepper:

No rib, even at full lock (there is about 2 cm empty space to the tire well). Above I had installed only one tire, so when all 4 were installed remained more empty space)
 

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