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We just got about 12 inches of snow
I was totally buried in, the snow was up to my door handles...
Huh?

Sounds to me like an exaggeration. If there is 12" of snow fall, how does the car get "buried"? Maybe some loose snow blown by the wind or tossed by a plow, but to me the word "buried" does not imply a small amount of snow leaning against the Jeep. (If it was buried, how did you get the door open to get in the drivers seat in the first place? :) ) The not turning ESP off does not compute either, as my own experiences with deeper snow have underlined the need to have ESP at least partially off when starting to move. Of course, that has been with snow actually under the vehicle too. If you start moving with dry pavement under the wheels, you might be able to get enough momentum before hitting the small snow bank for the ESP not to be able to bother you.

If the Jeep had actually been "buried" I would expect a) that with ESP on the computer would not let you dig your way out of the snow, and b) once you have more hard snow under you than what the ground clearance is, you become high-centered. I have clawed my way through being partially high-centered, but that was with ESP off, 4WD lock on and studded winter tires. (The front of the Jeep was lifted onto hard-packed snow but the rear wheels were able to push me forward enough for the front wheels to get some traction again. You could see where the Jeep had been lifted by its skid plate after I drove through the snow bank. :) ) And the snow was certainly not up to the door handles, but simply somewhat higher than the ground clearance!

And finally, a four wheel drive does not help if you lose traction - winter tires are always a better choice in winter conditions! Going in a straight line is one thing, but when you come to a slippery curve, those summer tires are going to lose grip much, much sooner than quality winter tires. Of course, some of you live so far south that you don't really get winter conditions, so to those of you the differences between tires are pretty much a moot point, I suppose. :)

I'm not trying to dispute the abilities of the Patriot as a winter car - I've had mine through one winter and it performed very well. But even the Patriot can not perform miracles, nor change the laws of physics.
 
Dang I live right in the Middle of the Snow Belt in Western New York and I only got a little over an Inch :( All around there was 7" to 12"... Well I'll just have to wait a little longer...

Hey have fun in the snow!!!!
 
Coach B, allright! Another WNY'er.

I didn't want to sound like a d!ck, but I've never seen 12" of snow bury anything but the grass, even after the plow. Regardless, good to know the Patriot can hold it's own through some powder.

Definitely not looking forward to trying to keep all that road salt off my Jeep. I need in ground sprinklers in my driveway!
 
Nope, I did nothing with the ESP. Though when I would drive on the roads that werent plowed yet the traction light would blink, the little icon with the squggly tires and car. lol.
That sounds like it was working correctly. Any time one wheel rolls at a different speed than the other wheels that light should come on. I just checked our forecast. Rats! just warm and sunny for countless days on end.:mad:
 
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Huh?

Sounds to me like an exaggeration. If there is 12" of snow fall, how does the car get "buried"? Maybe some loose snow blown by the wind or tossed by a plow, but to me the word "buried" does not imply a small amount of snow leaning against the Jeep. (If it was buried, how did you get the door open to get in the drivers seat in the first place? :) ) The not turning ESP off does not compute either, as my own experiences with deeper snow have underlined the need to have ESP at least partially off when starting to move. Of course, that has been with snow actually under the vehicle too. If you start moving with dry pavement under the wheels, you might be able to get enough momentum before hitting the small snow bank for the ESP not to be able to bother you.

If the Jeep had actually been "buried" I would expect a) that with ESP on the computer would not let you dig your way out of the snow, and b) once you have more hard snow under you than what the ground clearance is, you become high-centered. I have clawed my way through being partially high-centered, but that was with ESP off, 4WD lock on and studded winter tires. (The front of the Jeep was lifted onto hard-packed snow but the rear wheels were able to push me forward enough for the front wheels to get some traction again. You could see where the Jeep had been lifted by its skid plate after I drove through the snow bank. :) ) And the snow was certainly not up to the door handles, but simply somewhat higher than the ground clearance!

And finally, a four wheel drive does not help if you lose traction - winter tires are always a better choice in winter conditions! Going in a straight line is one thing, but when you come to a slippery curve, those summer tires are going to lose grip much, much sooner than quality winter tires. Of course, some of you live so far south that you don't really get winter conditions, so to those of you the differences between tires are pretty much a moot point, I suppose. :)

I'm not trying to dispute the abilities of the Patriot as a winter car - I've had mine through one winter and it performed very well. But even the Patriot can not perform miracles, nor change the laws of physics.

I was parked on the Snow Ban side of the street. Snow Ban means that is the side of the road that the snow ends up on after they plow the street. Which means the plow was pushing all the snow against my car when they pass. It snowed for 2 days straight here.
 
Here in Mankato, MN, it snowed on the 26th, but nothing stuck. The wind was up to around 50 MPH though! I went out driving in it, still waiting on the serious snow fall! Heading 5 hours north to the headwaters of the Mississippi, maybe I'll get lucky up there!
 
I got my Patriot almost 1 year ago and I had so much fun last winter, it was a very heavy snow year even for Canada. I hope it snows even more this year. Hitting up un-plowed side streets with big snow flakes falling and seeing all kinds of people stuck in their own driveway was so much fun. When I would pass an plowed intersection there were some actual snow banks that the jeep just blow through sending snow up and over the Jeep. Also parking lots and park driving areas where great too. I can't wait for snow. If this is your first winter with your Patriot, and you in fact have a winter, your in for a treat! enjoy
 
Good grief tony, chill out. He got a lot of snow and was pleased with his ride. No need for an analysis of the data.
You do realise that some people might actually try to do research on Patriots through forums like these? Exaggerating the abilities of the vehicle does no-one any good in the long run, even though a more realistic view of the budget Jeep might seem depressing to those with more fan-like attitudes.
 
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