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And get ready to start saying goodbye to motorized use of public lands, among other things.
Yep well I plan on moving in about 2 years anyways. This state is going down hill. Still a good place to live at the moment but probably not for much longer. We might as well not even vote when this legislation gets passed. California will decide for us.
 

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So you think the electoral college is better than this?
 

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Just remember, some of us left CA recently due to the craziness! Not to even consider the water issues, air quality, crime, and socialist programs....
 

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Just remember, some of us left CA recently due to the craziness! Not to even consider the water issues, air quality, crime, and socialist programs....
Yeah, like these guys:
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/02/26/landlord-colorado-california/

“I’m getting fed up with the bull crap going on in the state, with the governor and all. I’m getting fed up with that. Politics. Crime,” said another tenant.

So they move to Colorado Springs thinking they're in good shape.

Surprise!
 

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Come to Michigan!!!! We've got problems, but we need more good people here. And to my knowledge, we're still somehow capitalist.
 

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No, its plastic straws that are public enemy #1 ;)

Anyways point being is that if this the trend we are going its going to base on absolute popular cote count which since I have been born would have always supported the democratic and urban presidential pick. So based on this thread Mr. Colorado man is against the majority of the citizens of these United States of America from picking their president based on the most votes cast for said candidate for the position of the president.

Again should we bump all of the old threads even on this site where you all are complaining bitching and moaning over the electoral college? :D
 

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No, its plastic straws that are public enemy #1 ;)

Anyways point being is that if this the trend we are going its going to base on absolute popular cote count which since I have been born would have always supported the democratic and urban presidential pick. So based on this thread Mr. Colorado man is against the majority of the citizens of these United States of America from picking their president based on the most votes cast for said candidate for the position of the president.

Again should we bump all of the old threads even on this site where you all are complaining bitching and moaning over the electoral college? :D
I don't think I have ever complained about the electoral college. I think its right to not only have the cities and bigger states making all the decisions in the federal government.
 

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Through my life I have heard people complain about the electoral college yet the alternative of popular vote is only acceptable if they are the majority. Remember two presidents in recent time would not have been president without the electoral college. The way its setup now with the electoral college, rural areas and smaller states (currently mostly republicans) have more influence than large urban areas (mostly democrat) which in turn perpetually continues to push the two party agenda and pandering to "swing states". I think I remember hearing that literally every poll on this topic ends in a huge majority towards popular vote.

Since I am 100% against the two evil corporations of the two party system - I would support popular vote if it was implemented here in Wisconsin. In life from even the smallest of things such as picking out what restaurant to go to with your family - the majority rules :)
 

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I'd be ok with the electoral votes being split with the percentages of that' states popular vote. Seems wrong that you can win a state by getting 1000 more votes.
 

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My answer to this is
They'll be collecting all of those shortly, along with any sharp objects.

Unless its a syringe used at an injection site under proper supervision.
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/politics/denver-city-council-approves-supervised-injection-site-pilot-which-still-needs-legislative-approval
From my cold dead hands. My hands will be the only thing that is cold because I'll be laying in a warm bed of brass.
 

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Electoral college MIGHT need tweaked, but popular vote is absolutely not happening. If it does, then viva le revolution because Democrats have brainwashed too many people, and others are just "too nice" to stand up to them. Not me. I and my shotgun stand ready to defend the homeland. Also I could use a Tommy gun, but all in due time.
 

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Through my life I have heard people complain about the electoral college yet the alternative of popular vote is only acceptable if they are the majority. Remember two presidents in recent time would not have been president without the electoral college. The way its setup now with the electoral college, rural areas and smaller states (currently mostly republicans) have more influence than large urban areas (mostly democrat) which in turn perpetually continues to push the two party agenda and pandering to "swing states". I think I remember hearing that literally every poll on this topic ends in a huge majority towards popular vote.

Since I am 100% against the two evil corporations of the two party system - I would support popular vote if it was implemented here in Wisconsin. In life from even the smallest of things such as picking out what restaurant to go to with your family - the majority rules :)
An important thing to remember is both democrats and republicans have had plenty of recent success with this system. It seems that each party really has an even chance at winning. I would rather have a 2 party system with both parties having a good chance than a 1 party system which that one party dominates the vote and the other parties don't have a chance.
 

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I'd rather a multi party system where there are more ideas and choices aside from the current pick two problem.

Also remember for those that think a majority win is a horrible idea - every other election that you participate in from the local to federal level is winner takes all by popular vote. No reason that same model would not work for picking our president/VP. Your senators, congresspeople, aldermen, mayors, PTO, governors, etc all abide by the popular vote.
 

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I'd rather a multi party system where there are more ideas and choices aside from the current pick two problem.

Also remember for those that think a majority win is a horrible idea - every other election that you participate in from the local to federal level is winner takes all by popular vote. No reason that same model would not work for picking our president/VP. Your senators, congresspeople, aldermen, mayors, PTO, governors, etc all abide by the popular vote.
The reason it wouldn't work is all those elections you listed are mostly for local areas. The people are affected are fewer and have more common ideas for whats best in those listed. In a national election, there are many types of people with very different interests. If you have only the costal areas which are very different than the non costal areas deciding what is best for everyone, you can have some outcomes that really only help the populated areas and leaves the rural areas in the dust.
 
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