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ESP Full off is not available on FWD MK's. The only way to completely disable traction control is to pull the ABS fuse, however the engine reduction part of traction control will still be available
 

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ESP Full off is not available on FWD MK's. The only way to completely disable traction control is to pull the ABS fuse, however the engine reduction part of traction control will still be available
Exactly!
I've pulled off ABS fuse - put PAT to high curb (pics above) - 2000rpm engine ruduction still s#cks!

Does anybody have an idea how to remove this limit?

DIYs are welcome! :)
 

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Pretty sure it would involve reprogramming the ECU and TCU... if it's even possible at all. Unfortunately, that's just the way all of these 4 cylinder CUVs are made these days.
 

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I doubt it's the ESP; since the ESP (when working properly) goes active when the vehicle is in motion, not when sitting still on flat ground with the wheels blocked.

Probably more to do with the torque converter stall speed like Tyler explained, but changing the torque converter would mean PCM/TCM changes.

Some people have suggested something like a Sprint Booster / Pedal Commander helps with faster throttle response and getting the engine higher into the power band quicker, others say it's a waste of money.

A while back someone tried doing a stage 1 cam regrind (among other things), but they had problems due to the PCM and had to take it back out.

You can read about it here:

Maybe the cam regrind would work now that the HP Tuner supports the Patriot PCM at least a little. But it's not a quick, cheap, DIY fix that's for sure.
 
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