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So I talked to my dealer today, now they are saying that this issue has never been reported before and they would like to tear the trans Dow and see what it is before they order a new one. Not happy at all, gonna call later and see what the service manager has to say before I call Jeep on it.
 

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I have a 2009 5 spd. 2.4l and I have gone 80+ mph. Over 90k miles and NO whine in 5th or any other gear. IMO it's not normal.
 

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I have 2014 Patriot, 2.4L 5 speed manual, 4x4
Transmission had a leak on top plug, discovered with first oil change and fixed.
Ratcheting noise in 3rd gear lead to complete overhaul at 17K miles, scars, damaged syncros, warped case.
Dealer claimed to have replaced 70% of the parts, no word on warped case solution status.
At less then 32K miles same symptoms, sounds and likely same damage, currently at dealer, last word from them was that they suspect bearing and have one on order.
Worst nightmare in 36 years and dozen other cars I drove, all having manual transmissions from 3 to 6 gears.

Noise I had in both cases started low then intensified in matter of days to a point where distinctive ratcheting can be heard in 3 gear under load, somewhat less loud in 4th gear and in 5th gear becomes a high pitch whining noise.

In 3rd gear you could clearly compare it to noise generated by interrupting spokes on spinning bicycle wheel using a stick.

Is anyone from Jeep reading this forum?
I suspect dealer will again put good parts in a bad basket with now potentially predictable outcome.

A little whining never killed anyone, but I am afraid I have a Jeep with more serious defect.
 

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I have 2014 Patriot, 2.4L 5 speed manual, 4x4
Transmission had a leak on top plug, discovered with first oil change and fixed.
Ratcheting noise in 3rd gear lead to complete overhaul at 17K miles, scars, damaged syncros, warped case.
Dealer claimed to have replaced 70% of the parts, no word on warped case solution status.
At less then 32K miles same symptoms, sounds and likely same damage, currently at dealer, last word from them was that they suspect bearing and have one on order.
Worst nightmare in 36 years and dozen other cars I drove, all having manual transmissions from 3 to 6 gears.

Noise I had in both cases started low then intensified in matter of days to a point where distinctive ratcheting can be heard in 3 gear under load, somewhat less loud in 4th gear and in 5th gear becomes a high pitch whining noise.

In 3rd gear you could clearly compare it to noise generated by interrupting spokes on spinning bicycle wheel using a stick.

Is anyone from Jeep reading this forum?
I suspect dealer will again put good parts in a bad basket with now potentially predictable outcome.

A little whining never killed anyone, but I am afraid I have a Jeep with more serious defect.
That sucks. Mine whines worse than when it was new and seems to be getting slightly worse. Now I have a whirring noise only on some left turns with trans in gear. Been getting that though for well over a year but it has worsened too. Dealer tells me its normal. I am thinking it is till 100,001 miles then I will need a new trans. Sickening.
 

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Bulletproof transmission dream

Jeep brand has effectively killed my perception of manual transmission as a "bulletproof transmission", simple and reliable is no more,......... thanks to Jeep, the most disgusting experience one can have with a new vehicle,......... two transmission failures in first 32 K miles with no definite solution in sight.

Why is this rocket science ?, how difficult is it in this day and age to produce one manual transmission that works then hook it up to few models of vehicles having most attributes that fit same specs, and finally reproduce it in most modern computerized manufacturing facilities man has ever known ?


Sure,... my Jeep is "TRAIL READY" if I tie it to few mountain goats.
:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
 

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Our 2010 Pat manual tranny began whining while still within the warranty period. The key that this was a real mechanical failure was the sound got a bit louder every day. Its an actual strong whining sound. So if you have a whining sound take it to the dealer. IF THEY INSIST IT'S NOTHING THEN HAVE THEM WRITE YOUR COMPLAINT AND THEIR COMMENT IN YOUR RECORDS. THEN WHEN IT FAILS WHEN WARRANTY IS UP YOU HAVE SOME AMMUNITION WHEN APPEALING TO CHRYSLER HEAD OFFICE.

Took it to the dealer, upshot is the mechanic pulled the tranny and replaced a bearing. Now it has been noise-free for the approximately two years since.

Yeah, really, how in the name of the mechanical gods can Chrysler's supplier not make reliable manual tranny's in the 21 st century? Hey, heres a thought: use $1 more expensive German, American, or Japanese bearings in critical applications and not Chinese crap.
 

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Our 2010 Pat manual tranny began whining while still within the warranty period. The key that this was a real mechanical failure was the sound got a bit louder every day. Its an actual strong whining sound. So if you have a whining sound take it to the dealer. IF THEY INSIST IT'S NOTHING THEN HAVE THEM WRITE YOUR COMPLAINT AND THEIR COMMENT IN YOUR RECORDS. THEN WHEN IT FAILS WHEN WARRANTY IS UP YOU HAVE SOME AMMUNITION WHEN APPEALING TO CHRYSLER HEAD OFFICE.

Took it to the dealer, upshot is the mechanic pulled the tranny and replaced a bearing. Now it has been noise-free for the approximately two years since.

Yeah, really, how in the name of the mechanical gods can Chrysler's supplier not make reliable manual tranny's in the 21 st century? Hey, heres a thought: use $1 more expensive German, American, or Japanese bearings in critical applications and not Chinese crap.
can you send a pic of the work order with what they replaced? i am getting sick of the whine. it's really no worse than it was last year but still..... also, got new tires and wheels. didn't change anything one bit noise wise. did go to 16" 215/70r16's. which is not a stock config BUT is same exact outside size as the 17" combo it came with and it's lighter to boot now!!

I am sure they will try to blame the noise on that change- even though i just got the new wheel/tire combo 2 weeks ago and this noise has been happening since early 2013 bone stock........
 

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so i took my '13 patriot over to the dealer and they opened a STAR case up with Chrysler. The engineer stated that what I am hearing is heli-cut gear whine from the diff and the ring gear and is normal. He went on to say that if there was really a problem it would not cease on decel (letting foot off the gas pedal) but would always be present. He called it "normal characteristic gear whine".

I had given them a copy of my blackstone labs report ont he PTU fluid which showed alot of iron/chromium. The engineer at chrysler discounted/ignored that as he stated chrysler does not recognize the report as it's from an independent lab. Whatever that means....

I guess it's "normal" for some of these things to whine then. Perhaps some don't and that's normal too but then maybe the whine is no indication of any problems, just annoying. Anyhow, i now have lifetime added care plus (bought last week) and am not worried about it any longer. When it blows, they will fix it for $100.00. They also saw my new wheels and tires and liked them alot as do I. I asked about warranty implications and they said since i kept same diameter (diameter of new tire, 215/70R16, is 28" like old 17" , 215/65R17, tire), there are none....
 

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I have a 2011 5 speed manual Patriot. 155,000kms and it has just started to make a whine noise. It starts around 60km/h (40mph) and continues to get louder (and faster) when you increase the speed. It doesn't make the noise on deceleration (when not pressing the gas).

I recently stopped going to my dealership for repairs. the new garage i go to changed the transmission fluid, the differential fluid and some other fluid i can't remember right now. They said it might be an engine bearing and said the fluid changes wouldn't fix it but might help stop the deterioration. I drove it about 700kms this weekend and the noise is still there.

I don't know a lot about these things, but if it is an engine bearing how easy is it to diagnose and fix? What's an engine bearing? Does he mean crank shaft bearing or transmission bearing, and is there a difference?
 

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My 2010 4X4 manual transmision is at the dealer now. Whine is all the time under load. Also a rattle from the through out berring.
I got to the dealer at 100801 KMs. The machanic had just done a high milage Patriot, so he was pretty sure of the problem. They talked with Chrysler Canada, and they are doing the work.
I will update with what they had to replace. And my cost for the rental.
 

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the mechanic thinks the noise is coming from the transfer case. 6.5 hours labour to change it. at first he thought he could get replacement parts but when he looked it up he said it is sold as a complete unit. $1500.

He says if it were his jeep he would drive it for a while and see if the noise gets worse or stays the same. If it stays the same that's good for me. But if it gets louder or worse in some way i guess i'll have to change it. I still have a year and a half before i pay it off.... :(

one surprising thing i noticed was the 4 wheel drive was always engaged when they had it on the hoist. I thought that the 4WD was disengaged at higher speed unless it was locked in 4WD mode? They were driving it in AWD mode and going 60-70kmh and all 4 wheels were spinning.... I remember reading something about it disengaging after 40 or something when in AWD mode.... can someone clarify?
 

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i pasted this from the other 5spd whine thread but wanted to put this here for thoroughness.....i bet it's the PTU and not the 5spd trans..

i will say that i test drove a brand new 2015 patriot 4x4 with automatic 6spd and it made the same whine as i hear only while hitting gas pedal. now it's very faint. but i recognize it as the same noise i heard on mine when new and mine has gotten worse......

soooo.

it's the PTU I am sure of it.

when it craps the bed, and it will, it might take out the transmission too but jeep has been warned by me on this multiple times and they say all normal....in writing....instead of a PTU for $700 and labor, they will have to pay that plus a new 5spd trans as well.... Depends how the thing fails i guess. if a bearing seizes, who knows what breaks.....hopefully nothing bad as far as an accident happens. if it does, there's a lawsuit there i am sure.
 

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So they replaced the bearing on the input shaft. And all the other fun stuff that goes with the repair. This was the third repair in the last few weeks they have done.
$100 for the rental car use...
Guess Magma don't make the transmissions to last…
 

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My Jeep is in a driveline specialist shop this afternoon. I've given them the information i received from the other mechanic (other mechanic thinks it's the transfer case that needs replacing based on where the noise is coming from, $1500 part plus 6.5 hours labour)
The specialist said he should be able to let me know what the issue is and what it'll cost to fix by the end of this afternoon.

It really sucks only having one vehicle in times like these.
 

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So, The transmission place i've gone to is rated really high, but they are also really busy. I've left my Jeep with them since last Thursday and have had a rental since. Today i finally get the call today (Tuesday). There are some bearings in the transmission making the noise. also, they can't fully examine the clutch because the plates are riveted together but one side looks like it's wearing more than the other. $350 to change it now or $1000 in the future... ugh. Total bill is gonna be $2600 with tax. plus $200 for my effing rental.

still got 18 payments to make before this Jeep is paid for.
 

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Got the Jeep back on Wednesday afternoon. sounded good. New clutch felt really loose and took a little bit to get use to. Drove nice though. Then Friday night while my wife was going to an event she calls me and says she's stranded. The jeep won't shift. She can't get it into any gear. When i get there and call a tow truck it's clear to see there is no fluid... it's all leaked out somehow. No fluid, no working clutch. Towed to the shop. FML
 

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Got the Jeep back on Wednesday afternoon. sounded good. New clutch felt really loose and took a little bit to get use to. Drove nice though. Then Friday night while my wife was going to an event she calls me and says she's stranded. The jeep won't shift. She can't get it into any gear. When i get there and call a tow truck it's clear to see there is no fluid... it's all leaked out somehow. No fluid, no working clutch. Towed to the shop. FML
Why is it that nobody does their job right anymore? I mean, how hard is something like this to a trained pro??
 

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Well reporting now that my whine is gone!!! Yeah the trans locked up and won't move, it started growling last week and on Sat gave out. I hate this car....... At the dealer waiting on an answer.
 

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This is why I bought the lifetime warranty. When she blows they will fix on their dime less the 100$ copay. The only mod I have are 16" wheels and tires where the combo is same circumference and width as the OEM 17" combo. Its also 1-2 pounds lighter than the OEM 17" combo yet has more rubber and is a far better ride. On pavement or off.
 

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Me, too!

I've been screwing around with this since January of this year! 2015 Jeep Pat 4x4 5 speed manual, 31K. Part of the problem is the manual tranny! No one knows how to work on them, or drive them for that matter. Just spent time at my fourth different dealer, and everyone grinds gears because they know nothing of clutch and shifting! And they're allowed to work on it? Anyway finally got a minor diagnoses of PTU or a shaft/bearing. Official diagnoses comes next week with their tranny man. Had clutch throw out replaced two weeks ago which did nothing. Told them it wasn't that! Noise goes away when pedal depressed, not getting worse which a throw out would do. I want to puke when they say start of wheel bearing, too! NO!!! Use your brain! Wheel bearing noise doesn't change in different gears, or when using clutch, etc. I know wheel bearings. Swapped out four of them on a previous vehicle. Louder at turning left or right, too. Since start of year, with my miles, would have seized by now! This is a manual transmission issue that Jeep/Chrysler doesn't want to deal with, most likely because manual transmissions won't be offered on new 2017 Compatriot that's coming-per dealer.
 
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