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I have a stock 2015 Jeep Patriot Sport that I am looking to beef up without a suspension lift. Is the biggest tire 235 70 r16 for me? I want zero rubbing. I am looking at the General Grabber AT2. Would I need spacers? I don't know how this works. = (
 

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Try 295/75R22.5. That's about the size used on the rig I drive almost every day.
 

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I'm running 225/75-16s and I get a slight rub when backing while cornering, usually as I'm going from my driveway onto the road. There's also a bit of a dip/bump involved. Would likely be worse if I was off-roading. If you don't want a rub at all, then that size is not going to work for you.
 

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No rubbing or fabrication needed would be 235/65r16 the 235/70r16 would have a slight rub. I got my tires from discount and no rubbing. So you would want the 235/65r16 and raises it about .7 inch more.
 

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Benzgt89, thank you for your support.

Going with a 235/65R-16 is a safe way to go with no rub. Here is a link to the tires we have available in that size on our web site:

235/65R-16 Tires | Discount Tire Direct

There are a few that have installed 235/70R-16 with some rubbing slight rubbing. If you are willing to do some slight mods the General Grabber AT2 is a solid choice:

General Grabber AT2 | Discount Tire Direct

Please let us know if we can help.
 

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I am looking at the General Grabber AT2.
I'll put a word in for the General Grabber AT2s. We had those on our old Wrangler and they were great. Wa-ay better than the junk we had on there before (OEM). Wife complained but I didn't take Her seriously until I had to drive it in a snowstorm -- I was wishing I was in my Grand Prix. Since when is a Pontiac better than a Wrangler in snow? Tires make a world of difference!
 

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Benzgt89, thank you for your support.

Going with a 235/65R-16 is a safe way to go with no rub. Here is a link to the tires we have available in that size on our web site:

235/65R-16 Tires | Discount Tire Direct

There are a few that have installed 235/70R-16 with some rubbing slight rubbing. If you are willing to do some slight mods the General Grabber AT2 is a solid choice:

General Grabber AT2 | Discount Tire Direct

Please let us know if we can help.
Is there a single AT tire in 235/65-16? I didn't see one.

I will 3rd on Grabber AT2s, have them on my Patriot, love them.
 

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General Grabber AT2

Count me in for the Grabber AT2's. Love them. Went with 215/70 16, almost the same height as the 235/65 but not as wide. Installed wheels with more backspacing to push the wheels out a touch, not much because I didn't want to look like I was riding in a roller skate, lol. Just wanted a better off road look.
 

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Alright so I got my first jeep the other day. 2017 Patriot High Altitude 4x4. Want to throw some tires on my stock 17" rims but have no idea where to start. Don't really want to lift it up just yet. What's the biggest and beefiest tire I can go without rub or having to lift it. Thanks in advance!
 

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Alright so I got my first jeep the other day. 2017 Patriot High Altitude 4x4. Want to throw some tires on my stock 17" rims but have no idea where to start. Don't really want to lift it up just yet. What's the biggest and beefiest tire I can go without rub or having to lift it. Thanks in advance!
Uh, that's the point of this thread. I hope I'm not rude in suggesting this, but please read the posts above and you'll have your answer!
 

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I realize this is an old thread, but I recently went through the same thing and there isn't very much info on the subject pertaining to the specific questions I had. I wanted to run 15" wheels because I like taller profile tires. I ended up putting a set off a 1997 Cherokee on mine with Michelin Defender LTX 235x75x15 tires. The initial fit was great. I had one small area of one brake caliper just slightly rubbing on the driver front with no spacers. I ground about .0010 off the surface of the caliper just because that side seemed to be about that much irregular in one spot. I also wanted a more aggressive look so I installed 1.5" spacers to give it a wider stance. Since these tires did not rub even before the spacers, I have calculated that I can likely run 30x10.50x15 without issue and no lift, using the 1.5" spacers. I plan to put a lift on before I replace these tires though, and will likely put 31x10.5x15 on when I need to replace my tires. One important thing to note is if you are concerned with the TPMS working right, be sure to get tires that will fit the specific pressures required to keep the system happy. Otherwise you may end up with an annoying nanny light staring at you. The Michelin Defenders can run up to 41psi, which is in the perfect range to keep the light off even if you run them at a little lower pressure. Different wheels mean different offsets and backspacing, so simply asking what size tires will work is not enough info to give you a definite answer. Hopefully this helps someone else.
 

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Personally I would consider 30" overall diameter to be the limit, based on the effect on overall gear ratio. 30" also is already well beyond design for the suspension and steering in general. The forces on the wheel increase with larger tires, and you are using 20 year old alloy rims. Not sure what it would cost to radiograph a set of wheels or if anyone does that, and such a complex wheel design might be impractical to test at all, but I assume it would be far cheaper and safer to just get new wheels.
They are pretty wheels. I personally wouldn't use them just because I would get them dirty / muddy every day and they look like they would be impossible to keep clean ;-) If you haven't already, for safety, you should do a VERY careful visual inspection of each wheel, and any sign of cracking means they should go into the scrap. If all looks good then I would consider them safe for road use but I would go to a smaller tire, not larger.
Sorry to drone on about this but it seems that most people don't consider the safety implications.
 

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Thanks for reviving this thread. I logged on today to ask the same question. Looks like 235/65/r16 or 215/70R16 will work on my current rims. I had 17" wheels on my last Patriot and am thinking of changing to 17. I'd like to get as much height without rub as I can. If 30" is the limit, then 225/65R17 would work at 28"? 215/70 is 29" but I prefer Michelin and don't see those available in Michelin. The Discount Tire search shows 205/70R16 SL or 215/65/R17 SL as choices but only available in General.
 
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