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As I began to accelerate my jeep after making a right turn, the jeep stumbled and stalled. I looked at my instrument panel and I had the "Electronic Throttle Control" indicator light on. I turned the ignition and started her back up and the RPM reved up to 1500 and stayed there; it would not come down. The indicator light was on as well. After about 45 seconds, I turned the jeep off and let it sit for about 30 seconds before I started her back up. After that it acted as if nothing happened, no indicator light and the idle was fine.

What gives?

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nightmare, I get those too. That would be a good story to tell around the fire with other jeep owners. And then the esp light went on oooooooo.
 

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Had that happen to me as I was pulling into a hotel after driving in rain all day. I turned the engine off for a bit and turned it back on and it never did return. The dealer said that they could find nothing wrong and that no error code was detected. They did say that they did "reflash" my computer because it needed updating.
 

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Took it to the dealer today and it popped a code. The code is p2173 (high airflow vacuum leak detection). All they did was flash the PCM. I doubt this will fix it but I guess I have to go through the motions...

Edit: Forgot to mention...dealer stated that they performed the procedures per TSB 18-019-08

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Any repair tips on the ETC light issue?

Any word on this issue? I'm having the same issue with mine Pat. The ETC light comes on probably once out of every 3 times I take it out on the road. The light blinks, I pull over and shut the car off, and usually it keeps blinking upon start up. When I took it in to get it looked at the mechanic told me he couldn't do anything for me if it wasn't blinking at the time and surprise surprise, it didn't come back on until I pulled into my driveway the next day. If anyone has any clue why this happens and what can be done to fix it, please let me know. You may be saving my life or my Pats life since i'm doing a lot of commuting on the freeway.

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Electric Throttle Control

I've noticed something wrong for the past couple of weeks, which I thought was my transmission but Jeep Patriots are so great at their indicator lights that nothing came on.

It's a 2010 so I was a bit peeved when I first spotted the ETC light and had to pull over to pull out the manual.

Did what it what it told me, but sometimes it was flashing and others, I'd pull over, put it in park and it drive find.

Then today, nothing at all!!! I had made a call to a service department but I don't want to have to pay if it's some stupid code. I already had to put it in for a recall last summer for some electric thing.

Can anyone help?
 

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When my etc was coming on had similar symptons,
Prigressively got worse. Until it would only go into limp mode.
My problem was my throttle body.
When tb sarts to fail sensors cant make sense of tb positikn and wheel speed and get etc indicator.
Spraying/cleaning the tb helped a little, just bought me more time
 

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OK - so I tried a few more times and it actually started - ran rough around 1500rpm with the ESP/BAS light on. I let it run for a bit (just because I was taken back by the fact that it was). Turned off and on again - same thing. Started a third time and ran like new - no lights, etc - idled normal. Drove it around (in the snow - winter storm here now) and ran like a top. Turned off and started again - again no issues. It's so diabolical and random! Too random and runs too good sometimes to be anything mechanical to my mind. I just don't know - heading to a friends house after the storm to plug into a reader (if it still runs to get me there). I'll post again if there are any results - any advice please let me know, thanks
Randy...what was the outcome? I am experiencing the same with my 2010 Patriot.
 

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My 2010 FD1 started getting the ETC light a few times summer 2012, but it would start ok and just not want to run over 3k RPMs. That was at maybe 40k miles, and it hasn't bothered me in maybe a year. Could just be some computer thing with the way I'm driving it, could be some random glitch. Either way, been working fine for awhile now. Not sure exactly why it acted up in the first place though.
 

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Throttle & ESP light on

nightmare, I get those too. That would be a good story to tell around the fire with other jeep owners. And then the esp light went on oooooooo.
This happen to us tonight. We just filled up the tank with Premium gas. The 1st time we ever used premium gas. We only have had the jeep for just under a month. A soon as we started it both the Electronic Throttle Control & Electronic Traction Control System light came on. We was able to get it into the kroger parking lot turned it off for a couple minutes and when we started it back up it was like it never happen.

Is this a defect on the jeep? We have a 2009 Jeep Patriot Sport. 82K miles. Please let me know.

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This happen to us tonight. We just filled up the tank with Premium gas. The 1st time we ever used premium gas. We only have had the jeep for just under a month. A soon as we started it both the Electronic Throttle Control & Electronic Traction Control System light came on. We was able to get it into the kroger parking lot turned it off for a couple minutes and when we started it back up it was like it never happen.

Is this a defect on the jeep? We have a 2009 Jeep Patriot Sport. 82K miles. Please let me know.

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Hey MrBulldozer,

I am sorry to hear about your recent experience with your Patriot. Have you had the vehicle scanned for any stored diagnostic trouble codes?
 

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Chrysler STALLS at fixing STALLING Problem with ETC/ESC/MIL

I can't believe I'm reading posts that are nearly 10 years old that seem to echo everything that has happened to me with my Jeep Patriot 2014. And yet Chrysler still allows this problem to happen. They should recall all of their vehicles and quit soaking the consumers who are all driving death traps. I wonder if Chrysler just recycles their old parts and puts them into their new cars -- either that or they just have a death wish every one. Which is it?

I've got 87,000 miles on my vehicle, and suddenly out of the blue the ETC light came on -- it sputtered at 30mph . I shut if off like the manual said (of course the manual has all the answers, in fact it wasn't a big deal according to the manual). A week later after having to replace the rear brakes, and rotors which wore unevenly ($400) -- I was on my way out of the dentist office and the parking garage drove the car down to the exit door.

I got in and the ETC light was on... as well as the MIL (engine light) and ESC (Electronic Stability Control). It seemed to idle in waves, and then I shut it off. Started it again. Stranded in the lot at what to do next I attempted to make my way home which was just about 13 blocks, frequently pulling over and restarting . Then made it to a red light whereas a woman was crossing the street in front of me (a walker) and as my foot was on the brake -- the car seemed like wanted to accelerate. The RPM's went into the red and the instrument panel lit up like a xmas tree. VERY DANGEROUS - and lucky that woman made it to the other side. I wouldn't be able to explain to anyone how she got hit by my foot on the brake!

Started it a few times in the driveway and new lights came on . 4W! Seatbelt lights quit warning passengers/ it's a mess. It's now at the dealership which sounds like another disaster waiting to happen as they can't diagnose it . It seems if Chrysler can't figure it out in an hour -- they should start charging less an hour for their scanning. This is nonsense!
 

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Tuesday am, I lost drive power to my 2012 Patriot. Right in DC rush hour traffic. I got it to limp over to the side of the road and the Electronic Throttle Control indicator came on. I noticed the last few weeks, my jeep would idle high for a little bit until I hit the gas and it would relax. The local auto guys told me they'd fix it for a little over $350 which sounds great but if all it takes is a check/update to a computer system, then that sounds a lot better. I won't be dropping it off until Friday. Finger's crossed.
 

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Saturday evening I was coming home and the ETC light came on. It had been raining hard all day, so I figured it was just a bug that would pass once the car dried out. Well, the next day it was on, so I did a reset by removing the positive cable for around an hour. It all cleared up, but I noticed the cruise control light wouldn't come on, nor would it work of course. Then the light came back on. The throttle response would only give me about a 100 RPM's. Limped home, reset it again, everything fine for maybe five minutes. ETC light came back on. Then the car would accelerate up to 2100 RPM's until I stepped on the brakes, then it would idle down. Throttle response is choppy, and engine started missing at idle. After a few more resets it added the Battery icon to to the ETC light. Checked that it was charging,and it was. The battery light went out after reset, but has been coming and going along with the resets. Along with all this, two times, the car would crank over, but not start, not firing at all. Mechanic has pulled the harness off of the computer, which is oddly placed under the hood atop the airbox. One side was black with corrosion at the base of the connection, and on the pins. It looks like water has gotten in, and has corroded the harness connection, and possibly gotten into the computer. While the mechanic was wiggling the connection , the car tries to stall. Called the dealer I bought the car from, they wanted me to bring it in. My mechanic had to fight the connection to finally get the Jeep to run. I bought the car from them on November 24th. so the warranty is done. I'm hoping they will work with me as this has obviously started before I bought it. It just wasn't showing symptoms. So now I'm waiting for the big "screw you" from them. I'll keep you all alerted to how screwed I am, and how much the screwing will cost me.
 

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Saturday evening I was coming home and the ETC light came on. It had been raining hard all day, so I figured it was just a bug that would pass once the car dried out. Well, the next day it was on, so I did a reset by removing the positive cable for around an hour. It all cleared up, but I noticed the cruise control light wouldn't come on, nor would it work of course. Then the light came back on. The throttle response would only give me about a 100 RPM's. Limped home, reset it again, everything fine for maybe five minutes. ETC light came back on. Then the car would accelerate up to 2100 RPM's until I stepped on the brakes, then it would idle down. Throttle response is choppy, and engine started missing at idle. After a few more resets it added the Battery icon to to the ETC light. Checked that it was charging,and it was. The battery light went out after reset, but has been coming and going along with the resets. Along with all this, two times, the car would crank over, but not start, not firing at all. Mechanic has pulled the harness off of the computer, which is oddly placed under the hood atop the airbox. One side was black with corrosion at the base of the connection, and on the pins. It looks like water has gotten in, and has corroded the harness connection, and possibly gotten into the computer. While the mechanic was wiggling the connection , the car tries to stall. Called the dealer I bought the car from, they wanted me to bring it in. My mechanic had to fight the connection to finally get the Jeep to run. I bought the car from them on November 24th. so the warranty is done. I'm hoping they will work with me as this has obviously started before I bought it. It just wasn't showing symptoms. So now I'm waiting for the big "screw you" from them. I'll keep you all alerted to how screwed I am, and how much the screwing will cost me.
Hi rush549,

Feel free to keep me updated on your dealership appointment, I'd be happy to offer further assistance if needed!

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This happened to me as I was pulling out in front of an 18 WHEELER. Thank God I was on a country road and he slowed down. Anyways, it took my shop 2 days to figure out what was wrong bc their system wouldn't pull the codes. Just got the call. The throttle body bad. He said since the car is new and they're already stocking the part at a local parts store (didn't have to special order) that this must be happening a lot (I have a 2014 Jeep Patriot). It's gonna cost me $653 parts and labor. I should just park it behind my 07 commander that no longer works and needs a valve body. I'm NEVER EVER buying a Jeep again.
 

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My 14 Patriot has done the bucking stumble thing twice in the last month. Both times it was raining pretty good and it seemed to clear up when it was hot. I was figuring computer harness connection or throttle body connection.
 

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only when it rains or is extremely hot out

I bought a 2013 Patriot Latitude with 48k miles in December and it was awesome up until this week. Well, over the past month since it's gotten rather hot here i'd notice a slight miss in the engine upon acceleration but it was nothing major, just 1 little sputter every now and again. I figured as i'd just went over 50k miles some new spark plugs were probably in order. Then, 2 days ago I was leaving work, it was about 86 degrees outside and downpouring. I made it about a quarter mile from work and the engine began to sputter and shake horribly, i had no acceleration, and couldn't go over 40 mph and the ETC light was flashing the entire time (never happened before). I stopped at the local gas station (needed to get gas anyway), filled up, got a drink n started the car and it ran fine for about 12 more miles until i was a few blocks from home and started acting up again. The next day i was headed out for the stanley cup celebration, it was again in the mid 80s and humid but no rain yet. The jeep again had a slight miss in the engine, but nothing like the day before and no ETC light. Later that evening, torrential downpour, still horribly hot and humid, and the jeep was nearly undrivable and the ETC light was back on. Today I left to go to work and the temp was in the mid 70s and dry, and the jeep drove about as well as the day i bought it....

My concern is after reading through all of the forums over the past 2 days, there doesn't seem to be a definitive solution to this, even at dealerships and autoshops.... I'm hoping that the issue is maybe the wiring harness on the computer as i've read it's pretty out in the open under the hood and maybe it was just getting wet due to the heavy rains. I'll check that out after work today, fingers crossed...
 

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I bought a 2013 Patriot Latitude with 48k miles in December and it was awesome up until this week. Well, over the past month since it's gotten rather hot here i'd notice a slight miss in the engine upon acceleration but it was nothing major, just 1 little sputter every now and again. I figured as i'd just went over 50k miles some new spark plugs were probably in order. Then, 2 days ago I was leaving work, it was about 86 degrees outside and downpouring. I made it about a quarter mile from work and the engine began to sputter and shake horribly, i had no acceleration, and couldn't go over 40 mph and the ETC light was flashing the entire time (never happened before). I stopped at the local gas station (needed to get gas anyway), filled up, got a drink n started the car and it ran fine for about 12 more miles until i was a few blocks from home and started acting up again. The next day i was headed out for the stanley cup celebration, it was again in the mid 80s and humid but no rain yet. The jeep again had a slight miss in the engine, but nothing like the day before and no ETC light. Later that evening, torrential downpour, still horribly hot and humid, and the jeep was nearly undrivable and the ETC light was back on. Today I left to go to work and the temp was in the mid 70s and dry, and the jeep drove about as well as the day i bought it....

My concern is after reading through all of the forums over the past 2 days, there doesn't seem to be a definitive solution to this, even at dealerships and autoshops.... I'm hoping that the issue is maybe the wiring harness on the computer as i've read it's pretty out in the open under the hood and maybe it was just getting wet due to the heavy rains. I'll check that out after work today, fingers crossed...
Hi 5xTheCup,

It sounds like you're still within the 5 year/100K mile warranty, so if you decide to have your local Jeep dealership diagnose the Patriot, and need any assistance, let us know!

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