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You bet, hope it helps someone, not enough info on fixing these things out there, for as many of them are on the road!! They are a pretty simple machine compared to a normal trans, really.

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It's encouraging to see that a fluid and filter change can remedy a whine like that; most shops (dealers included) just tell people the trans is shot, is sealed for life, no parts available, not repairable/serviceable, etc. and they need to spend $4-5K on a replacement without even dropping the pan to check for evidence of damage which IMHO they should do.

And even though yours seemed to have a lot of metal in the pan (more than mine did) it looks like the gamble on a fluid/filter change paid off.

Let us know how it does going forward.
 

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Thats the thing, I bought this car from a girl that said the trans was shot, she had a shop look at it, and they said it was shot, so I didnt pay much for the rig, I never even test drove it as I figured I would be rebuilding it and doing a fix tutorial like I did on the last one a few years ago.

I have 400 miles on it since with no problems, it doesnt slip under WOT, its a really nice rig! Got LUCKY on this one
 

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Just came across this post @Deezil fantastic video. My 2015 Patriot CVT is making an identical humming / whining noise as yours was before you did the work - taking it to the shop today and if they say the whole transmission needs replacing, I'll be pointing them at your video and asking them to change filters/fluid first!
 

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Just came across this post @Deezil fantastic video. My 2015 Patriot CVT is making an identical humming / whining noise as yours was before you did the work - taking it to the shop today and if they say the whole transmission needs replacing, I'll be pointing them at your video and asking them to change filters/fluid first!
I guarantee they will say its shot and has to be replaced! Thats how they make money. Definitely try changing BOTH filters first.
 

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Fingers crossed. They seem genuine about trying everything before replacing it, but I'm sure they'll try and eek as much cash out as they can!
 

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@Deezil they did indeed suggest full CVT replacement and when I insisted filters and fluid was changed first, they claim the CVT doesn't have filters. Is that even possible? Sparked alarm bells to me. They've submitted it to Jeep head office here in Australia to see if they'll replace the CVT for free out of warranty under good will, but that seems unlikely to me.
 

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@Deezil they did indeed suggest full CVT replacement and when I insisted filters and fluid was changed first, they claim the CVT doesn't have filters. Is that even possible? Sparked alarm bells to me. They've submitted it to Jeep head office here in Australia to see if they'll replace the CVT for free out of warranty under good will, but that seems unlikely to me.
Yep, they are in it for the money, nothing more.... Find someone more trustworthy, and make sure they change BOTH filters.
 

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You ever heard of a CVT not having filters?
Nope. If they tell you there are no flters, they're either very ignorant or just straight up lying. There are definitely 2 filters.
 

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Hey all, update for you. The saga continues. Took it to a transmission specialist locally, he said the CVT is shot and didn't want to look at the filters. Got my local trusted mechanic to change the filters and the fluid as a last resort, unfortunately it's done nothing to fix it.

So, looks like a replacement is needed after all. I've been quoted between $7,000 and $9,000 AUD for either a rebuild, or a second-hand replacement job. It seems overs on the second-hand replacement side of things, as I've found a second-hand tranny at a wreckers from the same model car, for $1100 and can get a guy locally to install it for $900. Two grand wouldn't be a bad result, but my question to anyone who has an opinion here, is the second-hand transmission worth it?
 

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The problem with second-hand transmissions is that you have no way of knowing its history. Maybe a bad transmission is why it's in the wreckers in the first place.
 

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Dang, Im bummed it didnt work! And kind of surprised. Agreed on above, you never know what youll get, plus you will have to have the computer plugged in to talk to a different trans, I think. But, it may work also, you never know. If you could find a LOW mileage one, like under 50K, Id risk it for the money savings. But thats just my opinion.
 

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The problem with second-hand transmissions is that you have no way of knowing its history. Maybe a bad transmission is why it's in the wreckers in the first place.
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Thanks all. I think either way, I'm going to sell it after I get it fixed - get something that doesn't have a CVT!
 
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