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Thanks for the heads up and showing clearly how to reproduce the problem in the video. I'll keep an eye out for itMy apologies if I didn't introduce myself proper.
I am the little guy that wants chrysler to accept responsibility for a mistake.
I first posted a video that was blocked on Facebook so I wasn't sure of I would be blocked here immediately or how much time I had.
My hope is to not have anyone injured because of this defect.
I am assuming the tech that did the pan gasket replacement bumped it up. We didn't have it off road, and no damaged appeared on the muffler.yup putting yer hands on someone else's vehicle, much less moving around their muffler, just aint right, very uncool
but big kudos for pointing out something I don't think anyone here has heard of, sorry you learned about it the hard way. That is something an offroad vehicle definitely should not do.
Im curious if the muffler can be pushed up by contact on its lower points rather than the exhaust. And curious if you know how you managed to get your's knocked upward
Any i suspect anyone that goes offroad is going to be interested in whether this effects different year models... gonna check mine in the next couple of days
and curious to hear what happens regarding the dealer's unauthorized repair
The fire was limited to the rear bumper. Two exhaust sized openings were melted into the bumper, the rear foam under the bumper melted and warped the bumper on the exhaust side. It had a blue low flame around the openings that went out by itself after shutting the Jeep off. Regardless the exhaust on a 4x4 vehicle shouldn't push up and stay and melt burn catch fire.Encouraging people to test your finding on "every Patriot they see" is irresponsible. If I saw you reaching under my Jeep and tampering with it you would get your head kicked in. That would be one more injury than this this "defect" has caused.
Since you do not give any details about the "fire" I will reserve judgement about your reported defect until you supply some details rather than dramatics.
You do not specify what steps you took before starting an internet campaign.
I am also p*ssed because you spammed a popular thread to get your five posts so you could post your video. You could have used those posts to tell your story in detail and then posted the video. Visitors who ignore things such as simple politeness are not usually received well.
Ford is recalling the 2013 Escape to fix engine plugs that could leak coolant, according to a filing Tuesday with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. It's the third time the new Escape has been recalled since it went on sale earlier this year.
In August, a Nashville Ford dealer reported an underhood fire on a 2013 Escape during a test drive when an engine cylinder head cup plug came loose. The cup plugs keep coolant from flowing out of the engine's external cooling jacket, and typically pop out only if the coolant freezes and expand. However, in this instance and a similar problem Ford found in July, the plug simply loosened, causing coolant to leak and catch fire when the glycol in the coolant contacted the overheated engine.
Ford is recalling only models with the 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine, which was recalled in July for fuel lines that could split and leak gasoline. Ford says 6,146 vehicles with that engine will be recalled in the U.S., out of about 7,600 worldwide. Dealers will seal the plug and fit a cap on top beginning Sept. 10. Owners can contact Ford at 1-866-436-7332.
Also in July, Ford recalled nearly all 2013 Escape crossovers for carpet padding that could interfere with the driver's use of the brake pedal. During that month, Ford recalled nearly 485,000 Escape SUVs from 2001-2004 after NHTSA received 99 owner complaints -- including the report of a fatal crash in January -- of throttles not returning to idle when the gas pedal was released.
I again am no fire expert nor do I claim to be. I am assuming part of the foam behind the bumper was what was burning dripping. Jeep investigators said since the vehicle was driven 300 miles over 3 days it should of burned worse. Lots of short trips were made prior to me driving my wife's jeep and noticing the exhaust note change. Regardless of your opinion as to fire possibilities this is not a safe vehicle. Since the fuel tank is near I assume gas ignites at a lower temp than plastic. I feel lucky to have poked my head under and finding the dripping melting burning bumper.I have to be skeptical here.
1: I have had the back of my jeep literally sit down on my exhaust while pulling through a ditch. And it maintained height with no problem. So the thought of a service tech bumping it and altering the angle is hard for me to believe.
2: your muffler does get hot and yes it could melt plastic. But it resulting in a flame is highly unlikely. Especially a blue flame.
Why you ask?
1- plastic doesn't burn well. It kinda melts and then thats it, unless you have an open flame. It is, however, very detrimental because of its melting factor and that it sticks to you. Etc
2: blue flames range from around 2,000 F to 2,600 F on average. Our exhaust ranges from 1,000-1,600 F. Unless you had an accelerant on your plastic there's no real reason for it catch fire. I didn't say it wouldn't melt. Plastic doesn't burn the same way as wood. The plastic used on the jeeps is thicker. Therefore will burn less.
So I'm sorry. I can't say that I'm just gonna hop on the new band wagon to make this issue recall worthy. I am sorry if this is what truly happened to you, and I'm glad you are safe.
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