Autostick - Jeep Patriot Forums
JeepPatriot.com   JeepPatriot.com
The Jeep Patriot Enthusiast Resource


Notices

Engine and Drivetrain Engines, transfer cases, transmissions and axles

JeepPatriot.com is the premier Jeep Patriot Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Enjoy JeepPatriot.com? Has the site helped you? If so, show your support! Become a Site Supporter!
  #1  
Old 02-28-2010, 09:25 PM
Timinny Timinny is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 20
Timinny is on a distinguished road
Autostick

Just curious as to how, exactly, the autostick works. I am reluctant to play with it, as when in drive and not moving, I can put it into 1st gear. Are there supposed to be more gears, and if so, does the car have to be moving to shift into them? Not fully explained in the manual. Thanks
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 02-28-2010, 10:06 PM
TrooperAlex TrooperAlex is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: St-JÚrome, QC
Posts: 67
Ride: 2009 Patriot North Ed. FDI/CVT Jeep Green
TrooperAlex is on a distinguished road
the autostick simulates a manual gear box, allowing to shift gears when you want to, without a clutch.

when stopped, you are in 1st gear, you can shift to the 2nd gear when the engine is at about 1600 rpm. You can then shift to any gear you need. For fuel economy, try to stay under 2000 rpm. If you forget to shift, the Jeep will do it just before the rpm go into the red (really bad for fuel economy and for the engine too).

The gears are 1,2,3,4,5,6 then it goes back to Drive. If you are using the Autostick and want to go back to Drive, hold the stick to the right for a few seconds.

Edit: Note that this is a really summed up explanation. There are actually no gear in the CVT, the 'gears' I'm refering to are preset ratios that can be selected by the Autostick.

You can mess with the Autostick as much as you want, the only problem you could have is bad MPG.. and maybe engine wear if you are not careful with the RPM (but I think the computer is degned to prevent damage to the engine and transmission)

I hope this helped you.
__________________
Jeep Patriot North Edition
4x4 (FDI) with CVT

Mods done:
Baby Seat
Garmin Nuvi 255w GPS
235/70R16 Total Terrain A/T Tires

Planned Mods:
Painted Stock Steelies
Painted Muffler

Somewhere in the future Mods:
RRO Lift or STU's coils
SuperSliders
Skid Plates
Tow Hooks

Last edited by TrooperAlex; 02-28-2010 at 10:53 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3  
Old 03-01-2010, 03:31 AM
Afmcronnie's Avatar
Afmcronnie Afmcronnie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 1,720
Ride: 2013 Wrangler. Owned 2 Patriots.
Afmcronnie will become famous soon enough
Send a message via MSN to Afmcronnie
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrooperAlex View Post
The gears are 1,2,3,4,5,6 then it goes back to Drive.

The "D" position also has an "overdrive" function, dropping the rpms lower than "6". I use the Autostick to keep my rpms above 1500 when coasting up to a stop. The computer cuts the fuel flow off to the injectors when coasting above 1500 rpm to increase mpg and improve engine braking.
__________________
EARTH FIRST! (We'll Jeep the other planets later)

My Jeep won a war. Your Honda cuts my grass...

The Earth is covered 80% by water, Jeep covers the rest.

Many vehicles will get you into remote places, a Wrangler will get you home....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4  
Old 03-01-2010, 10:05 AM
Timinny Timinny is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 20
Timinny is on a distinguished road
Thanks for the info-very helpful!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5  
Old 03-01-2010, 10:35 AM
tiptronic's Avatar
tiptronic tiptronic is offline
POTM Winner AUG. 09.
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Cheltenham , Gloucestershire UK
Posts: 4,661
Ride: Jaguar X-type 2.5 4x4
tiptronic has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via Skype™ to tiptronic
Havnt got it on my Pat ( Diesel 6 speed) but when I had it on my Caliber I used it mainly for Rapid Overtaking or helping with engine braking down sharp hills. I just ust to slap it down 2 or 3 ratios.
__________________
Just swapped red Classic X , for, Green Auto SE " Spirit " Limited edeition X still 4x4,
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6  
Old 03-02-2010, 01:04 PM
Ignatz's Avatar
Ignatz Ignatz is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NH
Posts: 2,253
Ride: 2008 Patriot 4x2 2.4 CVT
Ignatz is a jewel in the rough
In some ways you can use it like a manual -- I find it very useful on rural roads. I notch down a gear on a downgrade to let the engine hold it back instead of smoking the brakes. Or notch it up a gear to save fuel at speeds under 45MPH.

Also, I don't know where you live, but I've discovered a way the autostick can be helpful in snow, like when going up a grade in D. Normally I can't tell if the engine is racing for more power or if its just spinning the wheels. Instead, I'll notch it into a 'gear' and if it starts to rev I know its spinning -- so I back off the gas and recover my traction. Nifty, huh? (I treat the ESP like the airbag: is nice to have in a crisis, but its better not to rely on it.)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7  
Old 03-23-2010, 07:46 PM
Philippe.Masse Philippe.Masse is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 3
Philippe.Masse is on a distinguished road
Hi,

I want to buy an 2010 Jeep Patriot with the CVT but I have difficulties to understand a couple of details.

I want a Limited version with the CVT2L because I want the "Trail Rated" but I am a little afraid that the CVT will become a pain after a while. I heard about the Autostick transmition add-on but I am not able to find if we can have the autostick with a "TrailRated" Patriot using the CVT2L.

Also, is it true that if I buy the "TrailRated" version of the Patriot the Jeep itself has more clearance than the others Jeep Patriot ? Like 1 or 2 inch of ground clearance ?

Thanks !
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8  
Old 03-23-2010, 10:30 PM
Afmcronnie's Avatar
Afmcronnie Afmcronnie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 1,720
Ride: 2013 Wrangler. Owned 2 Patriots.
Afmcronnie will become famous soon enough
Send a message via MSN to Afmcronnie
You are correct on the ground clearance, about 1". The FDII DOES NOT have Autostick, but it more than makes up for it by adding a 19:1 low ratio, skid plates, tow hooks and fog lights. If you are going to do anything off-road, the FDII is the way to go. If you are more concerned with driving on the road in the snow, with an occaisional jaunt up a primitive road, then the FDI would suit you just fine. The FDI gets better MPG.
__________________
EARTH FIRST! (We'll Jeep the other planets later)

My Jeep won a war. Your Honda cuts my grass...

The Earth is covered 80% by water, Jeep covers the rest.

Many vehicles will get you into remote places, a Wrangler will get you home....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9  
Old 03-24-2010, 09:57 PM
Philippe.Masse Philippe.Masse is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 3
Philippe.Masse is on a distinguished road
Thanks,

But if I choose FDII, it is still the same kind of CVT as the FDI without the Autostick right ? By that I mean that having the 19.1 ratio doesn't let you manually "switch" (virtual) gears right ?

Actually I think I'm gonna go for the Limited version but without the FDII. I only want to have 4x4 for winter and sometimes I have to go to my cabin and in the woods but nothing serious like Rubicon trails or stuff like that. But I will plan to add 1 or 2 inch of ground clearance just for the look.

Thanks again !
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10  
Old 03-25-2010, 07:44 AM
APT APT is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Metro Detroit
Posts: 2,089
Ride: Badgeless 2007
APT is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrooperAlex View Post
If you forget to shift, the Jeep will do it just before the rpm go into the red (really bad for...the engine too).
As long as the engine oil temp is in the normal operating range, there is no harm done to the engine operating it at 6500rpm. If there were, then the red line and rev limiter would be lower.

Otherwise, a fairly good explanation of the autostick feature.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Philippe.Masse
But if I choose FDII, it is still the same kind of CVT as the FDI without the Autostick right ? By that I mean that having the 19.1 ratio doesn't let you manually "switch" (virtual) gears right ?
The same CVT is used for all automatic 2WD, FD1, and FD2 Patriots (and Compass and Dodge Caliber). The difference is FD2 has a 33% shorter axle/differential ratio which provides shorter overall gearing. So you get the 19.1:1 low gear ratio at the expense of turning 2900rpm @ 70mph vs. 2100rpm. Thus, the fuel economy penalty. 2WD/FD1 CVT lowest gear ratio is 14:1. Also, the control of the trans is different as mentioned, the FD2 has PRNDL vs. PRND+- autostick.

For snow and every on-road situation, FDI is great. Depending on your woods and cabin access, FDII may be a benefit.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #11  
Old 03-26-2010, 05:15 AM
Tony1911's Avatar
Tony1911 Tony1911 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 1,743
Ride: '07 Jeep Patriot, '88 Ford F-150
Tony1911 will become famous soon enough
APT, excellent post!
__________________
Ground clearance is not just a single number! There is more to it than distance to lowest point of vehicle.

Want to know something? Do use the search function. No, it doesn't always help, but you miss out on a lot of stuff if you don't try.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Patriot Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.