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Old 02-16-2013, 09:22 PM
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MrJeepR44's gas mileage tip

I have driven my Patriot watching the tach all the time keeping RPM down whenever possible.

I have reset the fuel mapping this morning and going to take your advise and drive w/o paying attention to the tach. After resetting the mapping, Patriot seemed more peppier and throttle responsive. We'll see what kind of MPG this driving style would yield.


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I have driven my Patriot watching the tach all the time keeping RPM down whenever possible.

I have reset the fuel mapping this morning and going to take your advise and drive w/o paying attention to the tach. After resetting the mapping, Patriot seemed more peppier and throttle responsive. We'll see what kind of MPG this driving style would yield.


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It is my humble opinion that peppy starts in around town driving do nothing harmful to gas mileage. Of course we are not talking about full RPM drag strip type launches, just moving out smartly.

Its the peppy stops that are where the waste is.

Folks think that 3/4 throttle is using more fuel than 1/2 throttle take offs but if it takes you a further 1/2 a block to get to cruising and then you have to stop right away its not.

Think of heat...you do not want to make heat. Braking makes heat...accelerating and/or cruising do not.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:51 AM
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I use CC and I absolutely get better MPG using it than I do not including on the Patriot. It keeps a steady MPH vs me losing focus and slowly creeping higher and higher which can result in poor MPG( and a ticket ).
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I think you guys are missing the point

Hello fellow patriot owners. I recently bought a 2013 patriot latitude 2.4 fwd last month. I currently have 2400 on the ticker. I have yet to get over 200 miles per tank. My commute to work is 34 each way. And I do very light city driving just to pick my kid up from school. I have finally been tediously tracking my milage EVERYDAY. What I found was a one way trip to work uses 1.3 gallons of gas at 70 mph /2200 rpms. At 65 mph it uses 1.08 gallons at 2000 rpms. So at either speed im getting 26 to 27 mpg. Great right? But whay happens when I fill up after a round trip? I end up using 3.8 gallons and at 70 to 75 miles the mpg DROPS to 18 - 20 mpg!! Also after about 70 to 85 miles into a full tank my gas gauge is already at 3/4 of a tank. It seems the less gas in your tank the lower your fuel economy gets.

So I thought to myself. ... hmmm maybe fill up each way everyday.. and I see everyone else also suggest other COMPROMISES such as drive 60 mph and dont break. And headwinds and winter gas. Well I shouldnt have to COMPROMISE for my 20000 dollar vehicle. My vehicle is suppose to do what it was advertised and expected to do. That's why I bought it right?

I had a 1997 Saturn commuter car with 190k miles that burned oil . Never gave it a tune up or oil change. I would just add oil. And I drove the dog crap out of it. Winter gas summer gas whatever it consistsntly got 30 to 35 mpg. I paid 1000 bux for it and sold it for that same 1000 when I bought this jeep thinking I would get at least 25mpg consistantly. Well ive neen averaging 80 dollars a week on gas and I truly lost my value in gas.

Also ive developed a complex since owning my patriot. Always looking at the gas guage and then my trip meter. What kind of world do we live in where we make excuses for a vehicle THAT DOES NOT FUNCTION AS ITS SUPPOSE TOO!!!! Chrysler needs to address this. Im already saving my receipts and documenting every trip (again going out my way because the jeep is not living up to its expectations) after one trip to the dealer whos disgnosis says they road tested and it got 33mpg LMFAO. gee i must be driving this thing incorrectly. And I will get the bureau of automotive repair and the bbb involved and I will ultimately tske advantage of california lemon law. I will not let my jeep patriot mind **** me no more! Im sorry for cussing and any grammar punctuation and spelling mistakes.
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I think you problem lies in your speed. Patriot is a box on wheels and it has been determined it gets its optimal MPG between 60-65MPH. The gas consumption wouldn't matter how much gas you have left in the tank being it's full or almost empty. Your driving style, climate, terrain, tire pressure, etc. make up most of your MPG.

For you not getting over 200 miles per tank in FWD is not normal. Have you tried resetting your fuel mapping? If not, I'd do that first to see if it will yield any better numbers.

Patriot's fuel gauge misrepresenting the accurate reading has been noted before and is a known "issue". I get around ~100 miles the first quarter, ~200 miles at the half mark and fill up with around quarter left driven ~240 miles. Patriot is not the only vehicle out there with such fuel gauge. My previous BMW's gauge wouldn't move at all since full mark driving over 100 miles and then it would drop like there is no tomorrow.

I believe the best and safest way to know when to fill up is using miles driven like Dixiedawg does. For example, if you notice that you average miles per tank around 200, then fill up before or at that point and don't pay attention to the fuel gauge.
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At 2,400 miles or kilometres you aren't close to broken in yet.
Mileage improves as the motor seats in and such.

Most of us achieve your best and standard fuel mileage after the first oil change...somewhere around 5-8,000 miles.

Just remember this: I run the (almost) exact same route every working day. I'm within 5-10 kilometres every day on a 120+/- k route that includes stop and go town, highway and logging/industrial roads.

When I first got my FWD Patriot last December I was returning high 20's.

A year later I now get 30-31 mpg on a consistent and continual basis.

You will get better mileage...if you allow yourself to get there.
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I have considered the possibility of the engine not being broken in. Also I go by actual miles driven per trip starting with a full tank. Each trip to work I re fill back to full and see how much gas was consumed based on the distance traveled. 35 miles uses 1.3 gallons netting 26mpg.if I fill up after 70 to 75 miles 3.8 gallons are consumed. That's an extra gallon! I am driving the same exact way each time. I also am 3 minutes off the freeway to work and home with gas stations at both freeway exits.
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Old 02-17-2013, 02:11 PM
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yoitswoody, using your logic, I'd suggest filling up every 35 miles if that's how you get 26mpg! You're better off to fill twice at 35 miles/ 1.3 gal than to go 70 miles and have to put in 3.8 gals.

Seriously, tracking every day is tedious and with such small samples the fluctuations are bound to be huge. I wouldn't even hope for an accurate figure under those circumstances. What you're dealing with is what statisticians call a sampling error: the samples are just too small to give a realistic representation.

After I'd had my Patriot for a few thousand miles I decided to set my trip odometer and track my mpg for 1000 miles, or about 4 fills. It included all sorts of driving over several weeks -- city, rural, highway, freeway, and probably sun, rain & snow. Now I had a much larger sample and my economy was in the high 20 mpgs. That's about where I'd expect it.

A last word of hope: I've owned several Chrysler vehicles and once they're broken in, I've always been able to acheive better fuel economy than advertised. With GM products I've barely been able to duplicate the advertised numbers, and usually fell 1-2 mpg short.

Finally: Do as I did -- fill it up, set the trip odometer and save your fuel receipts for 1000 miles. Then do the math. You might be pleasantly surprised.

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I have considered the possibility of the engine not being broken in. Also I go by actual miles driven per trip starting with a full tank. Each trip to work I re fill back to full and see how much gas was consumed based on the distance traveled. 35 miles uses 1.3 gallons netting 26mpg.if I fill up after 70 to 75 miles 3.8 gallons are consumed. That's an extra gallon! I am driving the same exact way each time. I also am 3 minutes off the freeway to work and home with gas stations at both freeway exits.
Are all your forks lined up the exact same way in the cutlery drawer as well?

You don't have to overthink this...this thread and all the above contributions from MrJeepR, NHPatriot and JoeP neatly summarize all the many gas mileage threads on this forum.

Believe me, its been talked about and talked about...do the above and you will see proper fuel usage.
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Ignatz,

I've actually tracked my milage from total miles driven per tank. At first I was only getting 180 miles per full tank (same driving) its slowly started to get better but still hasnt broke pass 200 miles per tank. This is why I started tracking fuel consumption PER TRIP lol. I think the ultimate test will be this...

If I spend less money on gas filling up every 35 miles (once when I get to work and once when I get home) as opposed to filling up when my gas light comes on for a 5 day work commute. I'll start this week. And the next week I'll let the tank go empty and refuel as needed. I'll take pics of the odometer and trip meter as well as receipts. This should be interesting lol
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Yoitswoody, I just noticed that you have FWD as do I. I'm really thinking you should be in the high 20s mpg or even low 30s.

This time of year I'm in the high 20s, but I blame it on snow and cold weather. In the Spring and on the highway, I think you'll be flirting with the 30s. Drive easy and good luck. I'll be looking for the results of your experiments.
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CVTs do not like aggressive driving. If you are aggressively driving to work etc. then you will see an aggressive gas charge. Simple as that.
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Ditto Coppertrailer. The CVT puts the slush in slushbox. If you don't have to be first away from a traffic light, the CVT is just fine.
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CVTs do not like aggressive driving. If you are aggressively driving to work etc. then you will see an aggressive gas charge. Simple as that.
As mentioned im not sure if I mentioned this but I since have been chasing this fuel issue all hard driving has been eliminated. I set cruise control on the freeway. I also work grave yard shift so i dont have any traffic issues.
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I wonder if the fuel blend is the issue. I have only owned my 2012 since buying it used in January. I drive 70 miles per day +/- I found using 87 the engine seems to not run as smooth, I also track my mpg, and when using 87 I averaged 22 (hwy and city). Using 89, I average 25 and it seems to run more smooth. At 2-3 mpg, the cost for 89 vs the savings in gas is a push.... I have not tried 92 yet. I want to wait for winter blend to be over.

FYI, I noticed the same thing in my 2008 vvt chevy HHR. At the first oil change, I'm going to be using full synthetic and plan to get a K&N air filter. On the HHR, those were both good for 1 mpg.
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