Hi,
I am looking to get a Patriot, in the near future, and have a few questions maybe you guys can help me out with.

I was wondering, what do you think of lifting the patriot 3"?
Is that to much? Will it destroy the ride?
Also, instead of a 3" lift what is the best lift/tire combo?
Also, does antone now of a patriot lift kit?

If I get one it will be a 4x4 Manual Limited.
Thanks!
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Its never been done except a custom job that at a car show a few months back and so far no one has reported driving one. If you find a kit, let us know!

The Patriot is still too new to have a huge aftermarket following for lifts (and a good knowledge base of what works and what doesn't)

I can tell you thought that it will be very hard to lift the Patriot 3" because of the IFS/IRS suspension setup.. You will have to pay very close attention to the suspension limits (of travel droop) and the CV angles to determine the maximum acceptable lift.

I can tell you that for the Liberty, the largest amount of lift runs at 2.5" because of the IFS. Any more and you are talking about big money for changes to the suspension setup.

here's a link to that thread with the custom 2.5 inch lift. its running 31in bfg m/t tires. looks pretty sick.

here's a link to that thread with the custom 2.5 inch lift. its running 31in bfg m/t tires. looks pretty sick.

you forgot to leave the link :)

get this since i'm new

"In order to combat spam, we do not allow URLs to be posted until you have at least 5 posts."

haha, do a google search for Jeep Patriot lifted 2.5. it is the sema concept one, three down from the top.

i'll have to get more posts in so i can post urls. lol

This weekend, when I was checking out Patriots at a local dealer, it seemed to me that the wheel wells could accomodate a much larger wheel & tire. Even the 17" wheels looked small in contrast to the large wheel wells. I was thinking I'd have mine lifted 2" and then get 18" wheels with some beefy tires.

I'm looking to get a 2" coil lift then put on some All-Terrain T/As. I havn't found the coils yet though, I guess we'll have to give the riot a little time to come of age

what I wanted to do was nothing to make much of a difference. Of course hubby said NO! I want to add an inch. I know I could probably gain an inch with a different size tire. Good luck on find all that you need to lift it. I'd like to see pic.

The current generation Mitsubishi Lancer shares all the chassis / engine components with the Jeep Patriot, Compass, and Dodge Caliber. There are many after market parts for the Lancer. I would think that any adjustable coil-over setup for the Lancer would work on the Patriot. You can use urathane spacers in the adjustable coil overs to get the exact amount of lift desired. I saw the SEMA Patriot up close and personal and this is how MOPAR lifted the show Patriot 2.5 inches.

Just keep in mind that coil over kits aren't cheep. I think it would set one back about $700 bucks plus the cost of install and 4 wheel thrust alignment. I would highly suggest also doing the final wheel / tire combination at the same time (i.e. if going to 31's like the 17" Moab wheels with the BFG Tires) as the alignment so that the correct suspension settings can be dailed in.

The speedo can be recalibrated at the Jeep dealer but this will NOT be covered under warranty. Also the gas milage will suffer from the larger rotating mass of the taller tire / wheel combo. It will still be much better MPG that the other Jeep models thought ;-)

Lastly, since so much of the drive train / suspension is derived from the Mits Lancer there are other go-fast goodies that should work with little to no modifications. Some that I can think of off the top of my head would be:

Strut Tower Braces
Sway Bars (maybe custom end link disconnects from another Jeep)
Cat-Back Exhaust System
Cold Air Intake Pipe
EPROM chip (super chips, hypertech, etc...)
Aftermarket Fuel System Management
Adapted Lancer EVO turbo system. (would need lots of parts for the Lancer)
6 Speed Trans-axle.

A quick look at some of the Lancer parts would yeild some insight as to what is possible for the Jeep Patriot. I just wish that MOPAR / Jeep would have some of these avilable.

~Mike R~

FWIW, at camp jeep I spoke to one of the top guys at Skyjacker, and asked him if his company would be adding Patriot upgrades to their product line. Without being specific about what or when, he was very positive that they would be.

Your best "intial bet" would be to contact DayStar to get a "puc" lift. A 1.25" internal puc (inside the strut) would yield ~2" of lift. That would probably be the safest and cheapest way to go. Then get a tire that is about 1" taller overall for another .5" of lift...there it is...2.5" of total lift.

Hey Darby can you leave a link to the company's website your referring to. Thanks.

I would contact Heather/Quinn at http://www.BoulderBars.com . They were very helpful with the Jeep Liberty Lifts and have a working relationship with DayStar and OME (Old Man Emu).

In the General Discussion area there are photos of the SEMA Patriot showing the underside of the suspension, Check it out:

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2485

I noticed in the photos (for anyone thinking about lifting their Patriot) that there was some serious suspension modifications to get the 2" of lift.

You can see that the rear lower control arm piviot points have been relocated lower on the cross member (notice the welds). This is probably to keep the rear camber at the correct angle after the coil spacers were installed.

Also the front control arms appear to have been boxed in (plate welded to the under side). I am willing to bet that they are not modified, but completely custom fabricated to correct the camber angle. They are probably longer to compensate for the new angle.

Once the front / rear struts have a 2" spacer the camber will be off. The top of the wheel will "lean" outward unless it's corrected. The same problem happens when you lower a car with McPherson struts (but the camber change here causes the wheels to lean in). This is becasue there is no upper control arm to correct the camber druing suspension movement with this McPherson strut type system (it just moves in a arc from the piviot point). The up side is that there are less suspension parts which keeps the weight and cost lower.

Here is a good link with photos of the suspension exposed in a review at Rockcrawler.com

http://www.rockcrawler.com/reviews/jeep/patriot_2007/first_drive/index.asp

It might be a while before someone offeres a suspension lift kit for the Patriot. The way I see it there will need to be new front control arms (because the front cross memeber holds the engine / transaxel, can't be modified easily), Thicker poly strut tower bearing / isolator (to get the 2" lift), new bolt-on type of lower control arm relocation bracket, and rear poly coil spacer. The rear is a little easier because it is only a coil spring and shock, not a McPherson strut assembly.

I am hopeful that some aftermarket company will make one, but it won't be cheap. Sorry for the double post, but I thought this was important.

~Mike R~

does any body know what year lancer? i am courious n getting a strut tower bar

thanks

current generation. or you could just get one for a caliber or compass... same same

so 07? and up?

on ebay they say 03-07?

or just get an o8

there is a partnumber for a jeep patriot strut tower bar, p/n p5153565 price about 300 bux

why bother?

Go http://www.rocky-road.com/patriotsus.html

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4638

polished has a good point, why bother looking for a lancer part when you could find the same part but labeled for a Caliber or Compass?

However polished, he isn't looking for a lift he is looking for a strut tower bar.