I don't know how bad is original 4 speakers without subwoofer? I am not a real rock funs, only listen regular pop music on the ride. Should I upgrade to 9 speaker Boston system?

Currently, it's really hard to find out a 5MT comes with this Sound System. I am going to give up. Just want to if 4 speakers still be OK.

Thanks for any of your comments here!

do i 'need' it? i don't know. like most things i have, probably not.

but do i 'love' it?

HELL YEA!!!!!:smiley_thumbs_up::pepper:

9 speakers, hell, I want 20. When I driving down the street, I want to blast "Free Bird" so loud, people thing the world is coming to an end.

Is subwoofer standard for North Edition in Canada?

May not be worth the money if you are doing it aftermarket. I got it factory installed and LOVE IT!!!!!! People cant believe I get a Boston Acustic Sub. with my SUV. County sounds great on it

9 speakers, hell, I want 20. When I driving down the street, I want to blast "Free Bird" so loud, people think the world is coming to an end.

"Free Bird" ROCKS!!!! as for the band, the 'world DID come to an end' for them, did it not? :(

I do not have the upgraded audio and I have run into the problem that when I am driving down the highway at 75mph with my windows and sunroof open, the music is too quiet... I know most people don't drive like that, but I do... lol.

Though I do like having the cubbyhole where the sub would go... My disc golf discs fit in there perfectly.

9 speakers, hell, I want 20. When I driving down the street, I want to blast "Free Bird" so loud, people thing the world is coming to an end.

If you blast "Free Bird" loud enough through 20 speakers, the world will come to an end.

BTW, I have the BA system and I think it's fantastic. I'd get it again. And there is the added benefit that you don't have to let the glue-huffers at the local autosound place rip your new car apart to put it in.

To answer the question,YES I DO!!!!!

I love it and am more than happy I went with the upgrade. You will hear both sides of the coin, but if you want to thump every once in a while, you will need to upgrade. If you plan on going the after market route, then I would def say, go base, no need to spend money on something that you are going to toss. I just think that there is something to that clean factory install thou.

No, it is not standard equipment.

You cannot get it with the Sport, optional with the North and Limited packages.


Is subwoofer standard for North Edition in Canada?

The basic system sounds pretty good for a standard system, suprises me, BUT if I was ordering one that would be the one the one thing I would have wanted (well, that and cruise LOL)

The basic system sounds pretty good for a standard system, suprises me, BUT if I was ordering one that would be the one the one thing I would have wanted (well, that and cruise LOL)

Ditto. The stock radio and 4 6x9's sounds pretty good. No comparision to a powered sub/amp/crossover system.....but much better then alot of factory radio's out there.

Go with the BA system. It is perfect at low volume and amazing at high volume. The "might as well" factor applies because you'll regret not getting something that works, fits, completes and improves upon your Jeep so well. My friends always demand that I drive because they perfer my sound system over anyone elses.

I have the base radio. It is okay, it is fine for my needs, but even I can tell if I was really into music, I would want more.

If you like you music and you like it loud, seriously consider the upgrade.

I don't know how bad is original 4 speakers without subwoofer? I am not a real rock funs, only listen regular pop music on the ride. Should I upgrade to 9 speaker Boston system?

Currently, it's really hard to find out a 5MT comes with this Sound System. I am going to give up. Just want to if 4 speakers still be OK.

Thanks for any of your comments here!

Take a CD or Ipod of music you will want to listen to while you drive and go test drive some cars. That is the only way to answer your question for you.

I am completely satisfied with the factory base radio. Obviously that does not meet the desires of some of the other folks. Sound systems are a very personal choice.

No, it is not standard equipment.

You cannot get it with the Sport, optional with the North and Limited packages.

Homac I had it with my Sport,Is it because its the CRD for the Europian market?I tell you though its the best sound system Ive had in a vehicle as standard you can't beat that Boston sub in the boot once you pump up the volume,should call it the Boston wife anti nagging sub.:D

"Free Bird" ROCKS!!!! as for the band, the 'world DID come to an end' for them, did it not? :(

I say it did not. The edge of forever CD was pretty sweet, and I have seeen em live, they still rock out with thier c... out.

I bought off of the lot and got the 4 speaker setup. The base system is quite livable. I like having the aux input for my MP3 player as well. I will say that Classical music does not sound as crisp with it however.

If you want better sound, go for it. If you want to use your MP3 player then you need to find out if there is an adapter available. Neither single CD unit will play MP3 CDs if I understand correctly. Really stupid....

I'm happy with what I have. BUT hubby wishes I had upgraded and got one with the BA system. I did listen to the BA when I test drove a Compass.

I hear a lot of 'Hellz Yes' for the BA sound option, however I'm rather big into the aftermarket, and unless you can get the dealer to throw in the system for free, you're better off getting an aftermarket system through a professional installer. With an amp, and four speakers with tweeters, my system probably sounds a whole lot better than the BA system, and costs a lot less :P

The BA system is about $500 upgrade. Extra $200 for Sports because it includes Sirius which is standard on Limiteds.

I can do better for $500. Most cannot or are not willing too. That's what it comes down to for everyone. If the base system is not enough for you, are you will to spend time/money to improve it?

Some people have already replaced their stock BA sub with a better one. It is, afterall, a single small one (8"). The 4 additional "tweeters" are more like small mid-ranges @ 2.5". The location in the dash really helps, though as the front door speakers are blocked pretty well by legs. The rear flip down ones, I hate for hatch closed operation. I only want sound coming from behind my ears in a movie for effects, not music. The novelty of flip-down is quite useful. I'd argue that opening the rear doors would be better, or both hatch and rear doors for those BA owners. The 4 door speakers are the same for every MK, BA or not. The sub is nicely tucked away in the side, taking away a little cubby vs. a sub box in the cargo area for example.

Some $20 tweeters, inductors on the door speakers, an amp, and sub should outperform the BA system for less money. Or, 2 8" woofers in the rear doors, an amp to drive them hidden somewhere would work too.

I can understand the need for more sound, but I wonder, "how much is enough!?" Most municipalities have a noise abatement law that states sounds from your vehicle cannot be heard 50' away. Hell, I can blast that with a small 6-transistor radio with the built-in single 2" speaker.

As someone that has spent their life working and playing in noisy environments--now having some hearing issues, I wonder: has anyone looked into the level of db's that can cause hearing loss and how that value is represented with the standard sound system and the enhanced versions. I know from my engineering days, that quality of music does increase with additional power--probably relates to better quality circuitry used in higher powered amps. But with better quality, quantity is not necessary.

Protect your hearing, understanding your grandkids may depend on it!

I can understand the need for more sound, but I wonder, "how much is enough!?"

It's not about the quantity of sound, but the quality. At least that's how it is for me.

For some people, it is about sound level. For most people, they want better sound quality which includes a near flat frequency response from 20hz to 20khz.

75mph with my windows and sunroof open

This is actually quite a difficult requirement to meet, MK included. It is one of my own for my DD as I like to drive with windows down as long as I'm not sweating in the seats.

Quality clear sound system is what everyone wants to have...
There are plenty of sound systems out there and if you can find the quality your looking for with the cheaper prices, that would be great!

I like my BA..... all there is to say....

Protect your hearing, understanding your grandkids may depend on it!

Very true, Jack. I don't think we realise how important is hearing loss because it's hardly noticeable as it progress slowly. I try to stay away of noisy environments and I don't like listening to music too loud. First and foremost, because it can annoy other people.

But to answer the question of this thread, you don't need the Boston Acoustics system, but it offers really good sound quality.

For years I only drove convertibles and usually with the roof down. At that point loud was all that mattered. Back in those days nobody ever considered using more than 4 speakers and the magnets would fit in the palm of a child's hand. Most cars came with 1 speaker because stereo was still optional and only available on aftermarket or expensive factory radios. Since that is my former experience, just being able to hear the radio inside the car without going deaf from high volume is a victory.

Is there any post out there of someone that did the upgrade from the basic 4 6x9 to the BA choice???

I also have the back sub hole in the back...

With lower bass tracks the sound is not that good, I mean, loudness doesnt mean clean sound, an thats the point with the basic sound, if you pump up the vol, there comes the distorsion. Period.

Greetings from Mexico!

Is there any post out there of someone that did the upgrade from the basic 4 6x9 to the BA choice???

I also have the back sub hole in the back...

With lower bass tracks the sound is not that good, I mean, loudness doesnt mean clean sound, an thats the point with the basic sound, if you pump up the vol, there comes the distorsion. Period.

Greetings from Mexico!

I don't understand why here in MX we didn't get the BA system. Not even the Limited version has it.
Regarding the bass: it's kinda weird, sometimes it sounds really good and sometimes don't :confused: must be the volume as you say...

...Noticed that you actually live here, have you ever considered an audio upgrade???

By the way the Blue Steel is my fav color!! :smiley_thumbs_up:

Hi JeepMX.

It's been always on my mind the idea of upgrade at least the speakers, not to BA but to a decent ones (pioneer are really good).
I see it's an easy DIY project for a weekend...

Aside from BA there other types/brands of speakers that really works well and has some pretty decent sound quality...

I was pleasantly surprised by the stock sound system. Although 1 year in, I'm starting to notice some vibration noise in the door panels. The bass response is good for my taste in music. (This is pretty high praise considering I work with A/V electronics on the side.)

The answer is, you do not need 9 speakers to make a good sound system, but the BA system is pretty nice as a factory option. I would guess, you can have the same sound with minimum 7 speakers, 2 tweeters in the front dash, 2 mid-lows in the front doors, 2 full ranges in the rear doors, & 1 Sub in the back. That will eliminate the 2 speakers in the tail gate, which to me is a waste.

I was pleasantly surprised by the stock sound system. Although 1 year in, I'm starting to notice some vibration noise in the door panels. The bass response is good for my taste in music. (This is pretty high praise considering I work with A/V electronics on the side.)

Try getting some baffles (Crutchfield has them for like $9/pair I believe). Accessing the speakers and getting the baffles in there will take you like 10-15 mins. the first door (if you've never poked in there before) and like 5 mins. each additional door. I Upgraded my factory speakers for Infinity and love the upgrade. I have the MyGig headunit. There are times I wish a had a bit more power available but that will come in time when I get an amp. Meantime... Stairway to Heaven sounds sweet.

The answer is, you do not need 9 speakers to make a good sound system, but the BA system is pretty nice as a factory option. I would guess, you can have the same sound with minimum 7 speakers, 2 tweeters in the front dash, 2 mid-lows in the front doors, 2 full ranges in the rear door, & 1 Sub in the back. That will eliminate the 2 speakers in the tail gate, which to me is a waste.

More so when you consider if you have the cargo area cover, you drive around with it closed and covering those speakers in the tail gate. I would go with the tweeters (dash - if I find the instruction on dismantling the '09 dash. Have only seen on the '08), the mids (front door), fulls (rear doors) and a sub or two tucked under the front seats as one member posted aleady having done.

More so when you consider if you have the cargo area cover, you drive around with it closed and covering those speakers in the tail gate. I would go with the tweeters (dash - if I find the instruction on dismantling the '09 dash. Have only seen on the '08), the mids (front door), fulls (rear doors) and a sub or two tucked under the front seats as one member posted aleady having done.

Certainly, it is a lot easier to have the Subs under front seats, but you have to consider:

1. How big of a box can you fit under the seats?
2. Can you live with the thumpping of the base under your seats while driving?

Agreed. The subs that were installed by another member were 10" I believe. As for the thumping, I don't need a whole hell of a lot of bass. A small box in the rear (even with cargo cover) would work.

I own both a '07 Sport and a '08 Caliber SE. The pat has the BA system. Blows the standard set-up on my caliber (which is also the standard on the pat) away.

I am really happy with the BA system, especially for the money i paid, the option is the 'Sun & Sound Group' including the power moonroof, the dealer charged me at their cost of $871.00 CAD. You can't even get a power sunroof for that amount, let alone the BA system. Keep saying, Jeep options are very very reasonably priced. Why go aftermarket for anything?

I am really happy with the BA system, especially for the money i paid, the option is the 'Sun & Sound Group' including the power moonroof, the dealer charged me at their cost of $871.00 CAD. You can't even get a power sunroof for that amount, let alone the BA system. Keep saying, Jeep options are very very reasonably priced. Why go aftermarket for anything?

Nice deal....

I got lucky on mine.2 of the stock speakers blew on my riot (still had the stock radio) so I got the speakers warrantied they said they couldn't figure out if all 4 were blown so they just replace all 4 and they replaced them with the premium speakers! It sounded so much better with them in than the stock sounds even better with a aftermarket deck installed.I like bump in the trunk so I put the Alpine in to satisfy the bass monkey.

Yea I have the boston acoustics system but I'm adding a sub and remote start system, I'm just getting it done at world wide stereo, don't really have time or patience to do it myself. I'm probly gonna get a JL flatwoofer they came out with, which is a 12 and the box is only gonna be like 5 inches deep. which is real nice compared to my huge box of my kicker L7 i had in my old explorer. Anyone know if adding a sub without adding an aftermarket radio is worth it? not sure if the stock radio has a high enough output for the new amp to work efficiently.

My Mom told me that when she bought her 07 Caliber that she told the salesman she wanted a radio.Turns out it was the BA system.She didn't even know about the rear drop-down speakers 'til I showed 'em to her.
So when we went to buy our 09 Patriot Limited we insisted on havin' the system & we love it.Couple of weeks ago we went to friends & they don't have outdoor music,so I backed up Silver & everybody said it was perfect for the occasion.

I got the BA 9 speaker sound system. It is instant panty remover. Play that goofy Sandstorm techno song to demonstrate its sheer power and the club-hopping cosmo-sipping chicky baby can't resist.

It also kicks butt at the drive-in where the sound is played over the car stereo.

When going to a drive-in cinema, like i did last night, you will be proud of boston acoustic 9 speakers.

And by the way, if you go to a drive in cinema, prepare something to cover the lcd screen. I used the service book package.

As my previous post: The Sun & Sound Group, which i paid dealer cost for :$871.00 include the Power Sunroof & the Boston System. Where are you going to get that for the price??? Even at full factory retail of $1031 (with the LTD) it's a steal! Highly recommended!:pepper:

I'm getting on a bit now ,but I never needed Loud Speakers to get Panties to drop---Youngsters Huh!!

Go with the BA system. It is perfect at low volume and amazing at high volume. The "might as well" factor applies because you'll regret not getting something that works, fits, completes and improves upon your Jeep so well. My friends always demand that I drive because they perfer my sound system over anyone elses.

I agree, they gave me a demonstrator with the stock 6 x 9 four speaker system it was better than average but my "mygig" is superior. I've had some problems and had to take it back to the dealer, the subwoofer amp took a dump "50 Cent" LOL but I like the head unit. The guy gave me the pin out schematics so I'm in a be doing some modifications and stepping up the bass a bit. First thing I'm going to do though is rip out those cheesy liftgate speakers and then stick a couple of real amps and speakers in it. The door speakers seem fine I haven't ripped off a panel yet to check them out I might do that this weekend.

I just picked up a Pat Lat with the sun and sound BA and all I can say is well wort it... Think it was 1100 US...
I used to build car stereo systems, boxes etc... and you always loose trunks space with aftermarket...
I had a FJ cruiser and tried to get a OEM Sub for it on ebay until I heard one at the dealer when I went in for service... All I can say is the Pat BA is WAY better than the OEM FJ with sub...
I can even no get rid of my amps i have been holding on to for a bit... Yeah right, who am I kidding...

I wish my Pat came with the BA system... The stock (4 speaker) system is good enough but I like to "bump" sometimes when I listen to '90s gangsta:p rap. Does anyone know if the dealer can order and install the BA system? Specifically I would really only want the subwoofer....and maybe satellite radio and the liftgate speakers (but not necessary).

The dealerships may be anxious to charge you to add the whole BA system, though I don't know if the door speakers are any different, figured it is the dash tweeters, liftgate, sub-woofer, and stereo unit that are upgraded. I do know that I am glad I finally spoiled myself back when I picked out my Patriot- The BA system is a great factory option IMHO and really rocks to stuff like Fiver Finger Death Punch, and pumps out the vibes for Black Eyed Peas and industrial/trance! Could someone possibly build a technically better, louder system, possibly, but for just as much money or more with a possible loss of space and time. Boston Acoustics are no cheapies and anything in the average Sony or JBL price range wouldn't really provide any benefit unless you are nearly death and blew your speakers trying to drown out the sound of other driver's stereos...

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I have the 'Sun and Sound Group' on my Limited Pat. I can't describe to you how nice the sound is. A MUST in my opinion

The basic system sounds pretty good for a standard system, suprises me, BUT if I was ordering one that would be the one the one thing I would have wanted (well, that and cruise LOL)

The cruise control upgrad is pretty cheap. My dealer is going to put it on for $480, and I believe there are some posts on the forum about how do this yourself much cheaper. I just don't have time right now.

With the 6CD player and 4 speakers it sounds pretty good. Does anyone know if a sub-woofer can be added to this package?

I was pleasantly surprised by the stock sound system. Although 1 year in, I'm starting to notice some vibration noise in the door panels. The bass response is good for my taste in music. (This is pretty high praise considering I work with A/V electronics on the side.)

I am experiencing the same thing too already and I've only been rockin' out for about 3 months! I know my sounds are fine, but I'm getting annoying squeaks inside the driver and rear driver door panels already, any remedies??

Try getting some baffles (Crutchfield has them for like $9/pair I believe). Accessing the speakers and getting the baffles in there will take you like 10-15 mins. the first door (if you've never poked in there before) and like 5 mins. each additional door. I Upgraded my factory speakers for Infinity and love the upgrade. I have the MyGig headunit. There are times I wish a had a bit more power available but that will come in time when I get an amp. Meantime... Stairway to Heaven sounds sweet.

I will look into this, but has it become a problem since?

As someone that has spent their life working and playing in noisy environments--now having some hearing issues, I wonder: has anyone looked into the level of db's that can cause hearing loss and how that value is represented with the standard sound system and the enhanced versions. I know from my engineering days, that quality of music does increase with additional power--probably relates to better quality circuitry used in higher powered amps. But with better quality, quantity is not necessary.

Protect your hearing, understanding your grandkids may depend on it!

I know above 80 decibels can be harmful to hearing, but back in the day I used to compete in car audio sound offs, basically "how loud can your car stereo go" and I would top out in around 145 db's which is supposed to be in and around as loud as a jet taking off. I still have most of my gear from back then so figure why spend the money on tha BA system when I have way more than that just sitting in my basement. Figure two after market high end 10" subs is better than a factory single 8". :-)

I had a 2007 Patriot with the BA setup. I didn't care at all for the fold down speakers in the rear but the system sounded very good.

I changed my Patriot for a 2011 and didn't get the BA setup. I missed it for clarity, volume and bass. Not that the 4 stock speakers are bad, not at all but the sound was far better with the BA. I like the idea of having the sub hidden in the trunk's panel versus a box in the trunk. I don't like the idea of removing the box when i have to carry my guitars, the dog or other stuff. Is there any aftermarket sub that can fit in this spot (right side of the trunk)??

I test drove an '11 Sport with the base stereo in it and it wasn't all that bad, but not something I would be willing to live with. I'm a bit of an audiophile, and anytime I have purchased a car, the speakers were replaced within a week.
Based largely on the opinions in this thread, I had a feeling I was going to be satisfied with my decision to get the sun & sound group.

I'm a little over a month into my purchase, and I am more than satisfied with the BA system. The clarity and sound quality are fantastic, provided that you use one of the mopar head units. I attempted to use a JVC HU with an Axxess CHTO-03, the BA amplifier kept power cycling every 10 seconds, and the sound quality was no were near as good as it is with the stock RES HU. I am now considering getting one of the RBZ MyGig units if the price is right.

I had a 2007 Patriot with the BA setup. I didn't care at all for the fold down speakers in the rear but the system sounded very good.

I changed my Patriot for a 2011 and didn't get the BA setup. I missed it for clarity, volume and bass. Not that the 4 stock speakers are bad, not at all but the sound was far better with the BA. I like the idea of having the sub hidden in the trunk's panel versus a box in the trunk. I don't like the idea of removing the box when i have to carry my guitars, the dog or other stuff. Is there any aftermarket sub that can fit in this spot (right side of the trunk)??

There are many subs that will fit in that spot. 8" or 10" is as big as you'll be able to go, however. There are many "shallow mount" subs and a few open air subs that don't require a sophisticated enclosure. I bought a 12" sub and now I am trying to sell it so I can mount my sub in the factory sub location...Definitely cannot afford to lose the limited cargo space.

to answer the main question,yes,i do need it,because i like a good sound.
that's why i got it.

I sort of like the fact that I don't have speakers in the cargo area, as my dog is back there most of the time. I hate to have him have to deal with the loud sound, dogs ears are a lot more sensitive than ours. In my Tracker, there are speakers in the back, so I have to adjust the fader to just use the front speakers. At least in the Patriot the standard rear speakers are below the rear seats when folded down, so not too close to the dog. Speakers in the rear hatch would be inches from him when in the box in the back.

Sure, I would love it on the few times the dog is not with me, but didn;t make sense for the extra cost for those few times.

Ha ha !! my Mrs little Skoda Fabia has the original Radio/ Casette player in it & just 2 speakers in the front doors.