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: Door Speaker Installation


johnnyboy123
02-10-2011, 09:32 PM
I've read a lot of posts asking which speaker fit, which don't, and how to replace speakers. Here is how to replace them and the info should also help with which speakers fit and which don't.

Sorry for the bad pic quality... cell phone camera.

Vehicle: 2010 Jeep Patriot, standard speaker system (not Boston Acoustics)

Step 1: Buy speakers and speaker wiring harnesses (optional).

All 4 doors take 6x9 speakers. We look at mounting depth later.


Do NOT buy the Schosche brand harnesses on eBay that say for "1991-up Chrysler, etc vehicles." They do not work... I learned this the hard way. I could only find the correct ones on crutchfield.com. Link here (http://www.crutchfield.com/p_12071050/Chrysler-Speaker-Wiring-Harnesses.html?tp=3097). They come in pairs just like speakers do.


You will also need a Torx bit for the screws (not sure which size).

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=605&pictureid=3559
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Torx-Bits_T15-T20-T25-T30.jpg/800px-Torx-Bits_T15-T20-T25-T30.jpg

Step 2: If you bought harnesses, attach them to each speaker.
BLACK wire on harness goes to BLACK wire post on speaker.

WHITE wire on harness goes to RED wire post on speaker.

The posts are different sizes so this part is hard to mess up.

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=605&pictureid=3560
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=605&pictureid=3561

Step 3: Remove speaker grill.

I used a metal butter knife, starting at the bottom and prying off. You can use other things to get in there but I would start at the bottom and work my way around the speaker. This was the hardest part because I didn't want to break anything.

See pictures below for inside of speaker grille to get a better understanding of how it attaches to the door panel.

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=605&pictureid=3554
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=605&pictureid=3556

Step 4: Use Torx driver to remove screws.

There are two size screws so remember where they go.

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=605&pictureid=3555
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=605&pictureid=3557

Step 5: Skip this step to continue installation. This is to show mounting depth and size of speaker hole.

From the door's sheet metal to the mounting surface of the door panel is almost 6 inches.
There is nothing behind the top portion that is holding the speaker wire so it can be cut if needed.
The rear door seems to have less room with door bracing and what looks like part of the window assembly in the way.
See pictures

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=605&pictureid=3562
Front Left door:
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=605&pictureid=3563
Rear Left door:
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=605&pictureid=3565
New speaker vs. Stock speaker
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=605&pictureid=3558

Step 6: Connect wire harness to stock harness

If you didn't buy harnesses you have to cut the stock harness off and splice the wires together.


Step 7: Re-install speaker and screws. Tips:

Put the connection points (where you attached the harness to the speaker) toward the bottom of the door where there is more room.
Install the long screws first but do not tighten yet. Tighten after completely tightening short screws.
The short screws have a wide head so it may look like they won't fit but make sure you screw them all the way to the base.

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=605&pictureid=3564

Step 8: Test speaker, and reinstall speaker grill. Repeat for other doors.

Latitude
03-06-2011, 07:34 PM
:)

ti-claude31
03-06-2011, 07:48 PM
thanks for the pics and info.

Murman
03-19-2011, 11:15 PM
Thank you for taking the time to document this process.

The tweeter/mid-range unit on the R1693 is raised an inch above the bottom of the mounting flange.

http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/products/2009/04/575/h575R1693-i.jpeg

Does the tweeter/mid-range unit clear the stock speaker grill?

johnnyboy123
03-20-2011, 02:09 PM
Thank you for taking the time to document this process.

The tweeter/mid-range unit on the R1693 is raised an inch above the bottom of the mounting flange.

Does the tweeter/mid-range unit clear the stock speaker grill?

Sure does.:smiley_thumbs_up:

Murman
03-20-2011, 02:39 PM
Outstanding!

Thanks:notworthy:

Murman
03-26-2011, 08:08 PM
Thanks for the lead, johnnyboy123. :notworthy:

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page/B001P86SHA-1.jpg

$75.98 for two sets of speakers (4 total), shipped.

$24.98 for speaker wire adapters (4 total), shipped

Project total: $100.96

Hmmm, I still need a Jeep....

sick
03-28-2011, 01:22 PM
Hey, I'm looking to install a Nav Receiver in place of my stock cd/stereo setup in my 2009 Jeep Patriot w/o Boston Acoustics.

Crutchfield has been awesome for me before so i'm looking into this:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/scale/800/600/products/20100/105/x105NT3HDT-o_mt.jpeg

Just need clarification if I remove my stock unit that this will definitely fit. It says it does but looking into size comparisons, i'm questioning. I know Crutchfield comes with different mounting bracket sizes but just needed to make sure that if I go on near $1k for a unit that it'll be right the first time.

Thanks.

mrg455
04-02-2011, 03:29 PM
johnnyboy,
great post, as far as the torx bits you need a 20 and a 25 (but 20 will work for both sizes)

mrg455
04-02-2011, 03:30 PM
sick,
crutchfield is extremely reliable. if they say it fits, i would not hesitate to buy it. good luck.

Murman
04-23-2011, 06:42 PM
Day two...

Been there, done that...

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/225179_1660387155113_1400212990_31368444_7725548_n .jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/224327_1660387275116_1400212990_31368445_7687929_n .jpg

Again, thanks for the lead, johnnyboy123.:notworthy:

MiddleburgJeep
04-23-2011, 07:04 PM
The R1693's sound like a good price for a simple upgrade, how to they compare to the stock setup? I also have the non-boston setup, and I think they might be craping out. They already started getting that vibration noise when theirs a little bit of bass.

Murman
04-23-2011, 07:52 PM
how to they compare to the stock setup?

I have four, "like new". base factory speakers, I will sell to you for $Free.99. They are that good.

SilverSlimer
04-24-2011, 09:49 AM
The base speakers aren't that bad. I play my MP3's on them all the time and I find them to be way better than the crap that came stock in my old Volvo s40 2001. They might not be great with bass but they're otherwise fine.

That being said, I can't wait to upgrade them anyway once my warranty runs out. I want me my bass.

Darixs
05-25-2011, 07:32 PM
Hi I am new here just bought (2) 2011 patriots (one black one white) and wanted to upgrade the speakers in my wife's new ride. Are the speakers in the 2011 still 6x9? If so I am definitely going the route you did.

Note: these are the base model 4x2 sport Patriots. with manual windows.
Still liking the vehicle a lot!

johnnyboy123
05-25-2011, 07:46 PM
The door panels except for maybe some chrome accents, extra padding, and insulation didn't change so you should be good to go.

Check out Murman's post above, # 11. He has a 2011 and posted some pics.

Darixs
05-26-2011, 11:28 AM
Very nice! thanks for the info.

mepjap65
07-24-2011, 03:22 AM
Did you have to disconnect the battery cables before the speaker install? I saw in some installation guide video on Crutchfield where it was shown as a step, but I personally don't understand why it would be necessary for just swapping out door speakers.

JamesNewJeep
07-24-2011, 03:54 AM
For swapping speakers it isn't necessary, but its a good habit to get into anytime you are going to be dealing with electronics in the vehicle.

mepjap65
07-24-2011, 05:15 AM
For swapping speakers it isn't necessary, but its a good habit to get into anytime you are going to be dealing with electronics in the vehicle.

Thanks JamesNewJeep :)

gonpostal1971
08-12-2011, 08:54 AM
Are you happy with your JVC receiver/nav unit? Would you recommend this or have you found something better?

sib217
01-27-2012, 09:47 AM
@johnnyboy

So these speakers fit the rear as well?

Thanks

sib217
01-27-2012, 10:14 AM
Sorry I meant will these fit the front(depth). It looks like you installed them in the front and back, but crutchfield says rear only. I bought these and would like to use them in the front and put 2 ways in the rear.


As for 2 ways in th rear. I am just running from the factory HU, so I know I won't get the max out of them, but I'm sure it will still sound great. Would you guys recommend Alpine SPR-69 or Boston Acoustics SR95 for the rear? i wanted something a little bassier than the Fosgate 1693's.

Thanks!

sib217
01-27-2012, 10:25 AM
I just realized that my last post said 2 ways in the rear. haha. sorry it's Friday...

Murman
01-27-2012, 11:37 AM
@johnnyboy

So these speakers fit the rear as well?

Thanks

Left rear door, 2011 Jeep Patriot Latitude (grille removed)

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/225179_1660387155113_1400212990_31368444_7725548_n .jpg

Right rear door, 2011 Jeep Patriot Latitude (grille installed)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224327_1660387275116_1400212990_31368445_7687929_n .jpg

Yes, they fit in both rear doors.

Murman
01-27-2012, 11:45 AM
I just realized that my last post said 2 ways in the rear. haha. sorry it's Friday...

I installed the Rockford Fosgate Prime R1693 6-Inch x 9-Inch Full Range 3-Way Speakers in each door of my 2011 Patriot Latitude, with no problems.

I used adapters from Crutchfield to connect the speaker to the door wiring. Plug and play.

SpaceJeep
01-27-2012, 02:16 PM
I thought I would post for those of you who have the Boston Accoustic setup and are looking to upgrade the door speakers only as I did.

I'm not sure if the front & rear speakers are the same as those found on the standard sound system but be advised that since the BA has tweeters up on each side of the dash the front door speakers are setup for bass only I believe and therefore any 3-way sepakers on the front doors is a waste of money.

I learned this the hard way as I'm clearly no audiophile.:doh:

johnnyboy123
01-27-2012, 06:46 PM
@johnnyboy

So these speakers fit the rear as well?

Thanks

Yea they fit front and rear as Murman said. Here is the link for them on amazon... might be cheaper than Crutchfield. http://www.amazon.com/Rockford-Fosgate-R1693-6x9-Inch-Speakers/dp/B001P86SHA/ref=sr_1_80?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1293559879&sr=1-80

If you want to plug-n-play you will have to get the wiring harnesses from Crutchfield... I couldn't find them anywhere else.

sib217
01-31-2012, 09:52 AM
Sorry in advance if this questions sucks. I just replaced the 6X9's in my '08 Sport...the same as in this post. I upgraded my HU which has 4 RCA outs. I now want to amp the speakers. Can I just run 4 RCA's out from the HU to the amp and a power and ground cable? I don't need to tap into the speaker wire also do I?

sib217
01-31-2012, 09:21 PM
I actually found my answer. I got the PAC AOEM-CHR2 ADD AMP AMPLIFIER INTEGRATION INTERFACE and just needed to use the RCA's. This seems like a better option than the line converters and having to tap in the speaker wire also.

Ant67
02-01-2012, 12:38 PM
Just order 4- 6x9 speakers for my 2011 pat ltd from crutchfield Canada . Anybody dealt with this company in Canada or south of the border . How did you find the service etc etc .


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Ant67
02-12-2012, 03:13 PM
Well installed speaker the other day big difference like night and day.


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Hugoid
05-03-2012, 08:38 PM
This is my first post. Whoot!
The speaker upgrade looks to simple to pass up.
I have a 2012 Patriot - W/O Boston Acoustic sound system, but I do have elec' windows. Crutchfield still maintains that these RF 6X9's will only fit in the rear, but your experience and photos have me thinking I want to swap out all four.
Question: Has anything changed from 2010/11 to my model 2012 which would make me want to go a different route, because door cavities/window gear has changed and the RFs might no longer fit?

Hugo

dizark
05-17-2012, 07:16 PM
Just received and installed my Rockford Fosgate Prime R1693 speakers in both the front and back doors of my 2008 Patriot utilizing the plug in cables from Crutchfield. Very quick install and the sound difference is amazing though I must say for the old stock speakers, they were actually decent but these new ones are so much better.

Bought the speakers off Ebay as they were cheaper than Crutchfield, but got the cables from them. Crutchfield says the speakers only fit the rear, but I assure you, they fit both set of doors with no issues, power windows up or down.

msilvia01
05-17-2012, 07:24 PM
@hugoid 2011 and 2012 are the same model specs, 2010 is the same as 2007. The Rockford fosgate R1693 6x9's fit my 2011 pat just fine. Extremely easy to install. Just splice wires instead of buying harnesses. Sound great. Bought mine from onlinecarstereo.com they shipped fast and only paid 85 bucks for 4 with the $5 off promo code "5OFFCART" these were well worth it.

Hugoid
05-21-2012, 05:39 PM
Thanks for the confirmation that there are no yr-over-yr door panel changes that should mess with installation. I went the more pricey Crutchfield route, which is annoying, but I'm an electrical idiot so I figure their "all you can eat" tech help might be useful. Bluetooth H/U going in too (gulp.) Boxes arrive Thursday. I'm stoked. I love my 'riot, but it's a little spartan inside. This should put a grin on my kids' faces!

msilvia01
05-21-2012, 05:48 PM
I'm sure your kids will be just as happy as you'll be with the new system. The Pat is a great little truck and I can't say enough good things about it. I plan to add a nice touch screen head unit in the future as well. The oem one that you can get with the premium sound really puts the finishing touch on the dash.