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: Which polish/wax???


GenXer
05-21-2008, 06:51 PM
I am pretty sure this has been discussed before, but I am too lazy to search it, but what polish/wax do you use? I keep seeing the ad for Turtle Wax Ice and wondering if anyone here has used it??? I usually stick with Meguiars, but that Ice looked interesting.

PA PATRIOT
05-21-2008, 07:28 PM
everyone is going to have their favorites.
ICE is a ok product.
the first weekend i got my patriot, i used www.formula113.com
this is the best i have found.
the companion product BEAD-X, is in a leauge of it's own.
this is the best quick detailer i have ever used. period.
give them a look.
this is all i use.
perfect results...every time.

daguno
05-21-2008, 07:44 PM
Eagle One, I use them inside and out.

APT
05-21-2008, 09:32 PM
I aqquired a bunch of detailing products before kids when I had more free time. I learned a lot @ Autopia.org. I use S100 SEPC and paste wax (http://www.s100.com/s100_cw.htm). They both work extremely well by hand. They are very easy to use and take very little time to apply/remove. The wax lasts 3-6months which is outstanding for a carnuba. They are cheap ($10 & 15) and readily availible @ local Harley Davidson stores. Those with some quality microfiber towels make the process a breeze.

If you have time, might as well clay it too.

jeelo
05-21-2008, 10:13 PM
Meguiars if you want to pamper your Patriot.

I usually use turtlewax's newer lineup. They've done a lot to reduce the amount of gunk and buildup their previous lineup (which is still available) used to leave behind.

I'm sure there are others that are very good as well.

homac
05-21-2008, 10:31 PM
I have use Zymol and microfiber towels to apply. Really makes the color pop out.

Craigman
05-21-2008, 10:59 PM
Just bought some liquid Ice this week, waiting for the weekend to try it. After many trys, I had to give it a go...considering if you f**k up around the trimming or door handles, it turns white, and getting it off is a bi**h...I'll let ya know on Monday, providing the weather is good....Craigman

UPKEV
05-22-2008, 12:43 AM
Turtle Wax, the regular green stuff, works great, lasts a long time and is $3 a bottle and can conservatively cover 3 vehicles. Ice is like $17.

nebcarson
05-22-2008, 01:51 AM
www.conceptchemicals.com

don't know if you can get it in the states?

professional stuff. i use profile wash and wax then trade perfect 2 polish....

Greenman
05-22-2008, 02:19 AM
Guys over in the UK we have the option of having the body and interior Supergarded,this means that you do not need to wax or polish the vehicle for 3 years.They also sell some great products online as well including the acid rain shampoo and alloy wheel foam cleaner plus protector from brake dust deposits.

nebcarson
05-22-2008, 04:28 AM
http://www.conceptchemicals.com/zirconite/

similar to supaguard. buy this off us or dealer close to you and apply it yourself instead of paying the dealer Ģ200-Ģ600!!!!!

concept of course say zirconite is a better product than supaguard.

hope this helps. mark.

Greenman
05-22-2008, 07:19 AM
Will have to experiment I think and try different things thanks.

APT
05-22-2008, 09:02 AM
I have to point out that the brand of product only makes about 10% difference in how the vehicle looks. The rest of looks comes down to what types of products, the order, the techniques used. That's why I have a little different priorities when chosing what to use. I love Zaino. Have a bunch of it, I think 5 bottles of Z2/Z5. That's enough for probably 40 years of waxing/sealing. I don't have the time to use it.

S100 - 20 minutes for the paint claner and 10 for the wax. The only negatives I have are the cleaner leaves a slight residue on black trim and the wax does not repel dust a much as Zaino.

Meguiars has about 15 different waxes, not including polishes, cleaners, and other paint detailing products.. Most are good, some are great, others suck. Don't give into brand-whores.

EuroPat
05-22-2008, 12:27 PM
Poorboy's Natty's Paste Blue will work very well on your black car, Genxer.

Rends
05-22-2008, 12:34 PM
I use Liquid Glass. Sure itīs expensive but last much longer than any wax.
I use it 1-2 times in spring and one time in leaf. Thatīs enough.
There are guys out there using Liquid glass 5-7 times within a couple of days to have a nice showcar effect but thatīs too much for me.

Walkeraviator
05-22-2008, 02:16 PM
I used ICE on a plane onoce and was thouroughly disappointed... ended up redoing the entire plane with Eagle 1...

I personally use Gold Class from Meguiars on my cars...

patriotpierre
05-23-2008, 03:21 PM
Here is some info on car care

http://www.cartest.ca/cleaning_polishing__waxing.htm

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-wax.html

As a motorcyclist (you know how we are…keep it shiny),
and SUV owner I did some research (see links above)
and my personal choice goes for Crystal-Glo.:smiley_thumbs_up:

Easy and quick to use (I’m so lazy and no time to loose)
Durability
Quality
No white deposits on rubber parts
High tech products

Check their products
http://crystal-glo.com/

metalhead
05-23-2008, 07:04 PM
Well after looking at all the choices I went with Nu Finish "the once a year car polish" I remember using it years ago but don't remember If I liked it. My problem is I have no shade so I can't use most of the waxes. The Turtle wax Ice stuff is just too expensive for me. The Nu Finish does get good reviews. So I'll try it and see.

GenXer
05-23-2008, 07:26 PM
The Turtle wax Ice stuff is just too expensive for me. .

I couldn't agree more!!! I went to the store today, fully intending on picking up some Ice and left with Meguiars Quick Wax. I am NOT paying what they want for the Ice. That Quick Wax is a spray-on wet. $6.00 for the Mequiars or $20.00 for the Ice.

sellout
05-24-2008, 01:52 AM
I love the Ice. It goes on everything we own. I had a black 88 vette that had a good body but the paint job was original and just been rode hard. After 1 application of the Ice I had 3 neighbors stop their cars while driving by and ask if we had gotton the car painted. After that I was sold. I put it on everything. Plastic, metal, glass...never had residue and put it on in the heat of the day in 100 degree weather with the sun baking on it. No problems and easy. For us it is worth the $.

nebcarson
05-24-2008, 02:33 AM
$20.00 for the Ice.!!!!!!!!

if only you knew what it actually costs....we distribute turtle wax in ireland. sell ice wax with cloth for around Ģ3.50 to motor factors!!!!

as i said before i now only use concept chemicals stuff.....solely trade stuff...poor packaging but is cheap and works very well. amazing dilution rates for was and wax......300:1 on some products.

sorry guys in the US...no distributor but europe, asutralia and s america ok....

http://www.conceptchemicals.com/contact/worldwide/

PA PATRIOT
05-24-2008, 06:20 AM
http://detailcity.org
for all you detail fanatics.
really great forum.

rwrusso
09-22-2008, 03:51 PM
Just got my Patriot last Tuesday, and my office is next to a construction company that plays in the dirt all day. Needless to say I had a nice layer of dust by the end of the week. Wash and wax on Sunday...picked up some Armor-All Wax as you Dry stuff 75% off last year at Auto Zone. Very convenient (goes on wet or dry). No buffing. Not exactly a true wax job, but quick and easy and really shined up my black pearl Patriot. Works on plastic too, so no worries about the grill. Wasn't sure about waxing the plastic grill/bumpers, though they seem to have a clear coat.

JoeJ
09-23-2008, 12:07 AM
I use Finish Kare and Poor Boys stuff. My process of the pat the Other day was PB SSR 2.5, FK AIO, FK 2180, and FK Pink wax

09jEEp
09-23-2008, 12:56 AM
My two bits.....Eagle One Wax-As-U-Dry. :smiley_thumbs_up: Cheers.

http://www.eagleone.com/pages/products/product.asp?itemid=1091

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/g-show/Jeep3Small.jpg

Weatherman
09-23-2008, 12:57 PM
Im a big fan of the Eagle One stuff as well. And i further support that statement after the fiasco I had on Saturday night. Between the Wipe and shine detailer, the Nano-protectant interior cleaner, and the 20/20 glass cleaner, shes as good as new:) minus the unknown contents of my door panel......

EuroPat
09-23-2008, 01:54 PM
Good to know that the Yes Essentials fabric lived up to the expectations, Wxman! Maybe you could drill a tiny hole in the low poart of the door and just let the, hmm, ...stuff drain. Just kidding, I'm sure that taking apart the door would be much easier.

About Eagle One's Wax-as-u-dry product, maybe the problem would be getting all the wax on the abundant glass and plastic of the Patriot. You don't want wax on glass and plastic areas. I'd stick the usual shampoos for the regular washes and then waxing every 3-4 months. For plastic trim, I've found that Poorboy's Trim Restorer does wonders. It makes plastics look so much better that you have to be careful to apply it evenly without forgetting any small area, because you'll be able to tell where the product wasn't applied.

NickelPlate
09-23-2008, 03:02 PM
Turtle Wax, the regular green stuff, works great, lasts a long time and is $3 a bottle and can conservatively cover 3 vehicles. Ice is like $17.

+1 for the good ole green stuff in a can. I know there are probably better and longer lasting waxes out there but it's cheap, been around forever and works fine.

NP

1st Jeep 4Me
09-23-2008, 05:57 PM
Best stuff I've ever used, even on my classic car: http://www.finaldetail.com/order.asp?point=products&catid=14

Weatherman
09-23-2008, 06:01 PM
Good to know that the Yes Essentials fabric lived up to the expectations, Wxman!

Fortunately for me in this case, my seats are vinyl:D

About Eagle One's Wax-as-u-dry product, maybe the problem would be getting all the wax on the abundant glass and plastic of the Patriot. You don't want wax on glass and plastic areas.

I stay away from the wax-as-u-dry stuff, I just use the wipe and shine detailer, you can put it on anything and it doesnt leave any of that cloudy white garbage on the plastic. I use the nano protect on all the exterior plastic too, works like a champ and makes all the weather stripping shiny and new again:)

stingerbtry
09-23-2008, 06:25 PM
Zaino.

reneeb
09-24-2008, 05:55 PM
hey
i use meguiars gold class too

pharbio
09-24-2008, 06:06 PM
I like Liquid Glass. Been using it for years.

bigphill911
09-24-2008, 08:51 PM
I used tutrlewax ice before its ok but meguires NXT wax is way better :) I do use Ice spray detailer though and like it alot!

REPUBLIC
10-09-2008, 01:55 PM
Ordered my meguires car cleaning kit off of Amazon.com
Free shipping & no tax.

Tuksonrider
10-09-2008, 02:15 PM
I use Klasse All-In-One (AIO) and their Glaze/Polish.

It's a bit pricey, but a little bit goes really far.

If you're really ocd, you can apply 2 coats of polish, then a very LIGHT coat of wax for an incredibly DEEP shine.

I've been using Klasse since 2001, and I've only gone through two 16oz bottles of the the All-In-One, and still on my original 16oz bottle of the polish.

Use a microfiber applicator for the AIO, and a seperate one for polish. Then use seperate dry microfiber cloths to wipe off.

When using the glaze, use a VERY light coat. If it's too thick, then you'll get a sore arm/shoulder trying to wipe it off. I recommend 2 light coats.

http://www.autogeek.net/klasse.html?gclid=CKLq6YvfmpYCFSJIagodYFh85w

BWheeler
10-15-2008, 02:11 AM
I've been using Zymol since the start and I've sticked into cause it really works well for me.. :smiley_thumbs_up:

wheatbun
11-11-2008, 10:52 PM
i would agree with turtle wax, just make sure you wipe it all the way down!

nothing but style
11-12-2008, 05:45 AM
the best one ever....
if tryed it on my BMW, its expensive but realy the best

http://www.swizol.com

EuroPat
11-12-2008, 07:11 AM
Wow, Swissvax... That's among the ferraris of car waxes. Which one did you use?

EuroPat
11-12-2008, 07:20 AM
There are many alternatives to Turtle. Collinite 476 for instance is an excellent wax that will give a nice shine and last many months. And it's only $16 at Autogeek.net

nothing but style
11-12-2008, 08:40 AM
Wow, Swissvax... That's among the ferraris of car waxes. Which one did you use?

the "entry collection" with safir vax and the result is amazing:notworthy:

Harbor
11-28-2008, 11:23 AM
I've been using a product called REJEX for about a year. It's an aircraft grade polymer sealant that produces a fantastic shine that lasts 3-4 mos.

Bugs, grime & salt just rinse off.

It's about $12 for a 16 oz. bottle and available through skygeek.com if you can't find it locally. Read more about it in the detailing section of bobistheoilguy.com.

Already have 3 coats on my new Patriot getting ready for Michigan's winter.

- George -
02-25-2009, 06:14 AM
Do you REALLY need to wax the Pat to maintain color?

thjeep
02-25-2009, 07:03 AM
Meguiars is good and what I use most of the time but I have also had really good luck with most everything that I have used from Griots Garage. http://www.griotsgarage.com/

UPKEV
02-25-2009, 07:15 AM
With all the raildust I have acquired this winter it looks like I will be using a clay bar before I get to any wax. After that, I think I will try the turtle wax ice wax and see how that works.

UPKEV
02-25-2009, 08:24 AM
In leiu of starting a whole new thread, are all clay bars the same or are their better brands? I have never used a clay bar in the past as I have never really had occassion to.

Is there any down side to using a clay bar on a newer vehicle or is it just fine and dandy? They all say they won't hurt the clear coat but lots of products say lots of things.

APT
02-25-2009, 08:48 AM
I use clay on all my vehicles, old and new. In fact, I just did my Compass and my wife's new vehicle last month. I had Zaino first, and now Clay Magic (http://www.claymagic.net/) as a recommended clay that I could pick up locally at Autozone. Most detailing clay is of similar quality. I don't like to use the detail spray. I tried it for the first time last month and prefer to do it after I hand wash my vehicles with fresh soap mix.

Info 1 (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/detailingclay.html)
Info 2 (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-clay.html)

UPKEV
02-25-2009, 08:52 AM
I use clay on all my vehicles, old and new. In fact, I just did my Compass and my wife's new vehicle last month. I had Zaino first, and now Clay Magic (http://www.claymagic.net/) as a recommended clay that I could pick up locally at Autozone. Most detailing clay is of similar quality. I don't like to use the detail spray. I tried it for the first time last month and prefer to do it after I hand wash my vehicles with fresh soap mix.

Info 1 (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/detailingclay.html)
Info 2 (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-clay.html)

Cool, I still have 2 months before the weather might allow it, but just want to start getting the supplies before too long.

By detail spray, what do you mean. For example I know Turtle Wax Ice makes a liquid wax and a spray detailer. I was thinking of trying the liquid wax. I like the idea of well, being lazy and being able to use it on all the surfaces of the vehicle.

APT
02-25-2009, 01:02 PM
If you rub a chunk of clay across the paint, it will not be effective and probably smear, leaving some clay on the paint. The surface must be lubricated. Most clay is sold in kits with a spray bottle of lubricant, not the same stuff as a detail spray or spray wax. The theory is spray on a section of paint, rub clay gently across paint until it glides across (you'll feel it smooth out), then wipe off the lubricant with a towel. I just found in my one example using the Clay Magic spray that it was not as effective and I still got smearing. A better nozzle or adjustable one that allows a finer mist might work better. Since it is winter and I don't have running water in my garage, I relied on the the spray this time. It worked, but took longer to remove the clay I left on the paint.

Since you are waiting for spring/warmer weather anyway, just wash your Jeep, then clean the bucket/wash mitt and make a new soap solution. Spread the sudsy stuff on a body panel and use the clay. Lots of cheap lubricant that way. Hose it off and dry the whole car when you're done.

As for sealants vs. carnuba wax, they both work. A good sealant is better for most people. Easy to work with and lasts the longest. I have a supply of Zaino products that I'll never use up in my lifetime, but I'd try Duragloss #105 (http://www.duragloss.com/product.asp?pid=336) available through local NAPA stores. TW Ice has a good reputation as well.

UPKEV
02-25-2009, 01:39 PM
If you rub a chunk of clay across the paint, it will not be effective and probably

Thanks for the good info. I see there are alot of clay bar videos on you tube and will check those out as well.

cairn99
02-25-2009, 06:36 PM
I use T urtle Wax Ice and love it. It leaves no white residue and is easy to put on and off.

EuroPat
02-25-2009, 07:54 PM
Do you REALLY need to wax the Pat to maintain color?
The short answer is no, but it helps. A paint polishing from time to time (it can be once every couple of years) really helps restore the color and good shape of the paint. A professional detailer can do that for you for not a lot of money.

APT
02-26-2009, 08:23 AM
The point of paint protection is to prevent discoloration in the first place. With clear coated paints today, one could never wax their car and the body panels/paint/color would be the least of his concerns while the vehicle ages. It's all in how you want the vehicle to look both now and 5/10 years from now.

tiptronic
02-26-2009, 08:31 AM
I use a bucket of Wash-Wax anytime it looks dirty & a coat of Wax polish once a year!!

steelblitzkrieg
02-26-2009, 02:47 PM
My Jeep (White) is easy just wash and wax with Meguiar's Gold Class, nothing special.

My truck (Black) is a PITA.

Wash
Claybar
Meguiar's Ultimate Finishing Polish 32 (Swirl/Scuff/Paint transfer Remover)
Meguiar's Deep Crystal Carnuba Wax
Meguiar's NXT

I do this every 6 months. In between I just wash weekly and use NXT on a monthly basis.

Before destickering and debadging

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/steelblitzkrieg/000_0004.jpg

After destickering and debadging (Blurry pic)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/steelblitzkrieg/100_0322.jpg

Jeephigh_11
03-01-2009, 07:46 PM
Menzerna One Step Acrylic Jacket...The last wax and polish you'll ever use. Absolutely love this stuff. A bit pricey, but well worth the extra cash if you must have a wax and slight polish in the same container, look at that shine....... can't beat it.

http://www.valmoritz.com/images/tn_IMG_5243.JPG

TexasJeep
03-02-2009, 05:04 AM
Looks great!

Awesome background!

Jeephigh_11
03-03-2009, 09:32 AM
Looks great!

Awesome background!

It looks fake, I know, but I promise it isn't. That's my front yard. It was really bright that day.

Boy George
03-15-2009, 09:07 AM
http://www.valmoritz.com/images/tn_IMG_5243.JPG

Wow, I adore that view! :cool: Would just love to live at a place like that.

I use Turtle Wax with teflon once a year in the autumn. Lasts for the whole year, shines, repels dust, dirt and water. Wonder when something based on the nano technology becomes available. That will really be something - no dust, dirt, bird sh*tt or anything will hold on to the stuff! We won`t even ever have to wash our rides no more, they`ll never get dirty! :smiley_thumbs_up:

Kahbrohn
04-24-2009, 03:54 PM
I use Liquid Glass. Sure itīs expensive but last much longer than any wax.
I use it 1-2 times in spring and one time in leaf. Thatīs enough.
There are guys out there using Liquid glass 5-7 times within a couple of days to have a nice showcar effect but thatīs too much for me.

I'll second this suggestion. Used it on an old Alfa Romeo 164L and that car tuned heads wherever I went.

Wooden Dog
05-10-2009, 01:04 AM
I used NuFinish on my 96 Cherokee since I bought it new (and still do) and it still looks great. Beads water and lasts a long time--I do it twice and year and forget about it...it's a Jeep.
Probably going to be the same story for the Patriot, though I bought a can of Meguire's NXT 2.0 at 50% off just to see how it works.
I have no interest in waxing/polishing/detailing something every 2 weeks or even 2 months. It's a Jeep and I have better ways to spend my time.

patriotpierre
05-10-2009, 02:36 PM
I use Crystal Glow products for my Jeep and bike, no problem with white stuff around trimmings, this is an acrylic coating not a wax.

check it out, available at Home Hardware in Canada.

http://www.crystal-glo.com/

hagbard
05-17-2009, 10:36 AM
I just take mine to the local manual care washes and wash, rinse and wax. Done.

09PatSprt
08-09-2009, 02:24 PM
I use Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 Paste Wax.
I came across this product when I went to a body shop to discuss a minor repair I needed on another vehicle. An antique BLACK car was sitting just there with a freshly applied layer of wax while we talked for several minutes and I thought "That's gonna be hell to get off and will probably leave some bad swirlmarks". I mentioned it to the guy I was talking to and he went over and showed me just how easy it was to remove, NO swirlmarks and left a nice shine. Works for me.

Wooden Dog
08-09-2009, 04:04 PM
That stuff goes on and off easily and looks nice, but it just doesn't hold up to any kind of weather very long.

neilcrichton
08-09-2009, 10:36 PM
Turtle Ice. First used it on my old Studebaker, and it made the 20 year old red paint look like a wet mirror. Put some on my Patriot last week. Same effect. Great stuff and very easy to apply. Amazing how much gloss it adds even over a high gloss wax.

drummereef
08-09-2009, 10:43 PM
I'm a Meguiar's fanatic. :)

My Polish choices would be either Meguiar's ColorX or #7 Show Car Glaze which is a "pure polish" meaning no cleaners. It's part of their professional line.

Wax choice is Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax 2.0.

Either way, I agree with some previous posts about surface prep. Wash, clay, clean/polish, wax, maintain. That's how you get an unbeatable finish on any color car.

Kahbrohn
08-10-2009, 09:24 AM
I'm a Meguiar's fanatic. :)

My Polish choices would be either Meguiar's ColorX or #7 Show Car Glaze which is a "pure polish" meaning no cleaners. It's part of their professional line.

Wax choice is Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax 2.0.

Either way, I agree with some previous posts about surface prep. Wash, clay, clean/polish, wax, maintain. That's how you get an unbeatable finish on any color car.

X2

APT
08-11-2009, 12:57 PM
I'm a Meguiar's fanatic. :)

I'm sorry.

My Polish choices would be either Meguiar's ColorX or #7 Show Car Glaze which is a "pure polish" meaning no cleaners.

Glaze is not a polish or wax (http://www.autogeek.net/glazes.html). I don't recommend it prior to a sealant like NXT Tech wax as it will not allow the sealant to bond which reduces longevity.

Wooden Dog
08-11-2009, 08:08 PM
Okay, so I had the NXT Tech on my Patriot, and it looked fine. But...it rained yesterday and all night last night and guess what's not there anymore? Going to put NuFinish on it soon. For half the retail price and at least 3 times the durability based on what I've seen.

VWCarcrazy
08-13-2009, 12:13 PM
Just touch it up, no need to reapply the NXT. This is what I use, takes 5 minutes to do: http://www.meguiarsdirect.com/product_detail.asp?T1=MEG+A1616
Meguiars also makes a NXT version, but I don't find it is any better for a quick touch-up:
http://www.meguiars.com/estore/product_list.cfm?sectionname=Consumer%20(Meguiar's %20Brand)>Auto%20Paint%20Care>Car%20Waxes>Spray%20Car%20Waxes&sectionID=11503
I have used NuFinish. Yes, it does "bead" longer. But it does NOT give as good & deep looking a shine as the NXT. A good compromise is 3M Perfect-it Showcar Liquid Wax (3M owns Mequiars):
http://www.superiorcarcare.net/3m-liquid-car-wax.html
It's a little hard to find, but NAPA carries it.

APT
08-13-2009, 12:31 PM
Just touch it up, no need to reapply the NXT.

No! If the base wax/sealant is not protecting, then you need to reapply something. A spray wax is not suitable to provide protection. It's for improving gloss only! I find it hard to believe NXT did not last more than 3 months. The surface was probably not cleaned. Did you use a glaze or polish prior? Leftover Nufinish? Selants bond to the paint. Wax covers it. One should not use a sealant on top of a wax or glaze or any product that leaves a slippery coating on the paint. Wax over sealant is fine, but you need to remove the wax prior to moire layers of sealant.

Wash with Dawn, then re-apply NXT. You already paid for the NXT!

Nufinish is a very abrasive product. I don't recommend it.

drummereef
08-13-2009, 02:31 PM
Glaze is not a polish or wax (http://www.autogeek.net/glazes.html). I don't recommend it prior to a sealant like NXT Tech wax as it will not allow the sealant to bond which reduces longevity.


Where do people get this misinformation... :doh: Meguiar's uses the name "glaze" as a marketing tool. #7 is not a true glaze, it's a pure polish. ColorX is a cleaner polish, #7 is a pure polish. Autogeek are unfortunately misrepresenting that product. Plenty of information on the subject on the Meguiar's forum. The term Glaze is unfortunately misunderstood and misused in the detailing world. ;) I've had no issues using ColorX under NXT 2.0. It's beading like a champ. Most problems are from user error, not product error. And, those of you using Dawn to wash your car, I would advise against it. It will dry out your paint and strip any wax you have left on it. I would use a proper auto wash. If you want to remove the wax just clay your car after washing.

You Zaino guys are relentless. :D

drummereef
08-13-2009, 02:38 PM
Okay, so I had the NXT Tech on my Patriot, and it looked fine. But...it rained yesterday and all night last night and guess what's not there anymore? Going to put NuFinish on it soon. For half the retail price and at least 3 times the durability based on what I've seen.


How did you prep the paint surface before applying the NXT? There's some steps you need to do to get the full benefits of this wax.

chadandy12
08-13-2009, 02:47 PM
The Wax Shop Super Glaze Liquid Wax Hi-Def Gloss System
About 15.00 crazy nice shine a bit expensive but does not leave any white residue. In the past i have used Zymol but it leaves a white residue if you miss any spots and DO NOT get it on any pastic or have fun cleaning it off.

APT
08-13-2009, 03:20 PM
Where do people get this misinformation... :doh:

"As someone else pointed out, #7 is a high oil content product. In fact, it's mostly oil. I could tell you more about it, I have over 7 pages on just this product alone in my forthcoming book, How to Polish Paint. it's really quite a unique product." (http://www.autopia.org/forum/detailing-articles-videos/23740-meguiar-s-7-mike-phillips.html).

Conflicting information (http://www.autopia.org/reviews/archive/Meguiars_M07_Show_Car_Glaze.html). First it says it is a pure polish, then it says "wets the paint with nutritive oils" and there are few abrasive. How can it polish without abrasion?

Autogeek are unfortunately misrepresenting that product. Plenty of information on the subject on the Meguiar's forum.

Maybe, but I don't frequent Meguiars specific detailing site. Plenty of diverse experiences at Autopia. :)

And, those of you using Dawn to wash your car, I would advise against it. It will ... strip any wax you have left on it.

That's the point, as part of prep for polish/wax/sealant. It is not something one should use on a weekly basis, only in a full detail prior to polishing. A quality car was shampoo is recommended for normal washes.

[Dawn will]...dry out your paint

Nope. Paint is hard, baked well above water's boiling point. There is no water to dry out. It does remove any oil including carnauba wax and glaze which appears to dry out the paint if it is dull to begin with. One should polish the paint to resolve this, not cover it with oil just to hide the flaws. Once polished, then a glaze and wax is fine for enhanced shine and protection.

If you want to remove the wax just clay your car after washing.

Seems a waste of clay to me to clog it up with wax.

You Zaino guys are relentless.

Thanks for the stereo type. I actually am out of favor of Zaino for several years, but have a lot of supplies and use it occasionally, always with a carnauba topper. I have many brands of products for various reasons, mainly because I value certain attributes of each type of product.

drummereef
08-13-2009, 03:55 PM
Thanks for the stereo type....

LOL, it's in your sig (Zaino'd 2007 4x4 25F). :D I'm not sure if you are arguing or agreeing.... but it sounds like we are saying the same thing. Can't argue with anything you've said. :) I just wouldn't use Dawn on my ride is all.... :D Besides the fact, all this cleaning, polishing, waxing... are we really seeing the true benefits of our efforts through Chrysler's hideously orange peeled paint? Probably not. :doh: After all it's a Jeep not a show car.... it likes to be a little dirty. ;)

Wooden Dog
08-13-2009, 06:04 PM
Just touch it up, no need to reapply the NXT. This is what I use, takes 5 minutes to do: http://www.meguiarsdirect.com/product_detail.asp?T1=MEG+A1616
Meguiars also makes a NXT version, but I don't find it is any better for a quick touch-up:
http://www.meguiars.com/estore/product_list.cfm?sectionname=Consumer%20(Meguiar's %20Brand)>Auto%20Paint%20Care>Car%20Waxes>Spray%20Car%20Waxes&sectionID=11503
I have used NuFinish. Yes, it does "bead" longer. But it does NOT give as good & deep looking a shine as the NXT. A good compromise is 3M Perfect-it Showcar Liquid Wax (3M owns Mequiars):
http://www.superiorcarcare.net/3m-liquid-car-wax.html
It's a little hard to find, but NAPA carries it.\\No offense, but no thanks. Not interested in anything that won't stay on for a freaking month and a little rain.
My Cherokee is 13 years old and has has NuFinish applied twice a year and it obviously protects, because it still looks almost new, despite being out in the weather all the time.
I'm not interested in polishing, waxing or whatever every two or three weeks.

APT
08-14-2009, 07:41 AM
Definately not saying the same thing, reef.

Meg #7 is oil, to which a sealant does not stick.

A mild dish soap prior to polishing to remove any remaining wax/oil is cheap and effective. Do not use it on a weekly basis.

My Jeep does not have too bad of orange peal, not as bad as some vehicles I've had in the past. Guess the extra $225 for inferno red is worth it?

Just because I have used Zaino, does not mean I recommend it to everyone. In fact, I don't recommend it to anyone. But I know a lot about it and other products. I use S100 paste wax as a topper which affects the look more that the Zaino base. I'll change my Ride in CP as to not confuse you any longer.

drummereef
08-15-2009, 01:35 AM
Definately not saying the same thing, reef.

Meg #7 is oil, to which a sealant does not stick.

A mild dish soap prior to polishing to remove any remaining wax/oil is cheap and effective. Do not use it on a weekly basis.

My Jeep does not have too bad of orange peal, not as bad as some vehicles I've had in the past. Guess the extra $225 for inferno red is worth it?

Just because I have used Zaino, does not mean I recommend it to everyone. In fact, I don't recommend it to anyone. But I know a lot about it and other products. I use S100 paste wax as a topper which affects the look more that the Zaino base. I'll change my Ride in CP as to not confuse you any longer.

Whatever floats your boat man. Not here to argue. Shine'r up! :)

09PatSprt
08-22-2009, 02:22 AM
\\No offense, but no thanks. Not interested in anything that won't stay on for a freaking month and a little rain.
My Cherokee is 13 years old and has has NuFinish applied twice a year and it obviously protects, because it still looks almost new, despite being out in the weather all the time.
I'm not interested in polishing, waxing or whatever every two or three weeks.

I've used the NXT wax and really like the easy removal and the shine but due to the question of its' durability, I found my bottle of "Black Magic" wax which was highly rated and tried it out on my silver 2000 Altima. UGH - that stuff does NOT come off easy and it shows. I put the Black Magic back into hiding-

Anyhow, how easy (or not) is the NuFinish to remove after applying?

**side note - we replaced our '96 green Cherokee with the '09 Patriot. See you still have one of each...

1st Jeep 4Me
08-22-2009, 03:36 PM
NuFinish is easy on, ez off and very durable. I use it a couple times/year on all my cars and I use Final Detail spray wax every time I wash them. And an annual clay bar treatment too. Probably too much cleaning but for me it's relaxing.

startech1
08-22-2009, 09:09 PM
Smartwax this stuff is incredible that have this product called smartone waterless wash, and wax, you can actually do the whole vehicle glass and trim no white residue
www.smartwax.com

markasylver
10-26-2009, 09:51 AM
I like Best of Show wax and the Spray on Wax from Griots Garage. The products they sell are awesome!
www.griotsgarage.com

patroit07
02-27-2010, 10:47 PM
WD40 works the best its an all purpose fluid youd be surprised