: Ok who's a member of the LIFTED MK CLUB?
JeepJim 03-31-2008, 01:47 PM I thought it would be a good idea to compile a list of everyone that has lifted their MK. This is what I have so far:
MAC III - Patriot
Gramps - Compass
hvac59 - Patriot
goebel1 - Patriot
liftedMK - Compass
JeepJim - Patriot
quiff69 - Patriot
Tskm2 - Patriot
TJinWV - Patriot
jeepin1995 - Patriot
Rudeboy - Patriot
CJs07RIOT - Patriot
1inchgroup - Patriot
umassjeepster - Patriot
nebcarson - Patriot
Aus Patriot - Patriot
PatriotCruiser - Patriot
zbee - Patriot
csutton - no photo
heckler - Patriot
Prushinfox - Patriot
Patman16 - Patriot
JeepinLG - Patriot
Animal - Patriot
STOCKYbuilt - Patriot
petbug - Patriot
snokat - Patriot
LIFTEDMK08 - Patriot
tony1911 - Patriot
Copper - Patriot
Boilermaker
phatdilf - Patriot
jakep707 - Patriot
vicbitter - Patriot
- George - - Patriot
ttilley - Patriot
maahes - Patriot
If you are a member please just reply with either your thread discussing your lift or post a photo and I'll add you to the club list!
Thanks for the help while I was on my leave of absence from the site heckler. If anyone is still missing just let me know.
Last updated March 23, 2009.
JeepJim 04-08-2008, 03:24 PM so were the only ones? come on now... there has to be more than that.
jeepkid 04-08-2008, 03:28 PM MK? whats MK?
Schoat333 04-08-2008, 03:31 PM MK? whats MK?
the jeep chasis code for the patriot
liftedMK 04-08-2008, 06:43 PM the jeep chasis code for the patriot AND COMPASS
reads better now.:smiley_thumbs_up:
Schoat333 04-08-2008, 08:16 PM reads better now.:smiley_thumbs_up:
The compass is a Jeep???? :p
WhatARiot 04-08-2008, 09:33 PM My kit is delayed... shipping friday arrival thursday of NEXT week... hopefully :( oh well in two weeks I'll be a member!
Jeepster55 04-08-2008, 10:53 PM The compass is a Jeep???? :p
yea, you're probably right. the Compass isn't really a Jeep, since the dome light doesn't leak water and the hood doesn't flap. :(
aren't those a prerequisite for an "MK" Jeep? :p
WhatARiot 04-08-2008, 11:03 PM When will people realize Jeep is a brand name nothing else....
Schoat333 04-08-2008, 11:26 PM When will people realize Jeep is a brand name nothing else....
It was sarcasm :icon_rolleyes:
TJinWV 04-09-2008, 08:02 AM When will people realize Jeep is a brand name nothing else....
Doritos is a brand name as well. But if I open a bag and find cheetos inside, well, something's gonna hit the fan... :smiley_thumbs_up:
JeepJim 04-09-2008, 08:32 AM the jeep chasis code for the patriot
MK74 is the actual chassis code of a Patriot
MK49 is the actual chassis code for the Compass
But yes both are MK's.
Schoat333 04-09-2008, 08:57 AM MK74 is the actual chassis code of a Patriot
MK49 is the actual chassis code for the Compass
But yes both are MK's.
I thought there might be some numbers in there. Great info.
You are officially the Jeep MK go to guy. :notworthy:
P.S. your thread has been massively hijacked
TJinWV 04-09-2008, 09:11 AM I thought there might be some numbers in there. Great info.
You are officially the Jeep MK go to guy. :notworthy:
P.S. your thread has been massively hijacked
lol, yes it has. :)
Back on track, sorta: if you want to start a Lifted MK Club - 'My Lift Should Arrive Today, But I Do Not Have My Patriot Yet' Chapter, I'll join. :)
WhatARiot 04-09-2008, 09:36 AM TJinWV Doritos come in different flavors from the mild cheddar to the spicy habanero... something for everyone.
JeepJim 04-09-2008, 09:40 AM it's not so much a club as a catchy thread title... Really I thought if we documented who was lifted and who wasn't people who had questions regarding lifts could direct them to us rather than wannabes.
PatriotCruiser 04-09-2008, 11:18 PM Ordered mine today. Going to check the local 4x4 shop and see if they will install it for me since I will be working a lot the next few weeks and want to get the kit on soon so I can spend more money.....on tires!
heckler 04-10-2008, 06:47 PM http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5741&page=3
looks like Chiniz and JeepNewbee are also lurking members of the lifted club...
Come on Chiniz, come on JeepNewbee!! Tell us your experiences with the Rocky Road lift!!!
quiff69 04-11-2008, 02:39 AM I think after today we all know that i'm lifted.
JeepJim 04-11-2008, 02:45 AM quiff69, added you to the initial post... thanks for the reminder.
quiff69 04-11-2008, 02:53 AM Didnt even notice that. My bad.
chiniz 04-11-2008, 04:42 PM Me? nah...my brother has it on his, now I'm thinking about it, I've only had my JP for 4 months, so I'm still learning here, I want to be part of the club though!
heckler 04-11-2008, 05:57 PM so, get him on board jeeppatriot.com too! the more, the merrier!
At least post a picture of his jeep offroading somewhere...
Tskm2 04-17-2008, 09:28 AM I'm the new member of the LIFTED MK Club!! I post picture, after finish !!
TJinWV 04-18-2008, 08:01 AM I'm officially in...
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?p=65910#post65910
Tskm2 04-18-2008, 08:36 PM Look it this!!!
I'm the fist Lifted Patriot in Québec too !!Lift kit installe, alignement it completed in spec. original tire , I am going to put use set of 235-65-17 with 9/32 tread left next wednesda and add new goodies in few week! tomorow take new picture
MAxime
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/tskm2/101_0953.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/tskm2/101_0950.jpg
jeepin1995 04-18-2008, 09:40 PM the wifes lifted 08.....(on the left obviously) next to a stocker.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/jeepin1995/100_1333.jpg
rudeboy 04-18-2008, 11:28 PM Attached are before/after photos of my FDI. The after photo is a bit exaggerated as the gap above the tires in the wheel well settled a little after driving away.
My kit had the upgraded stabilizer extensions (1/4" flatbar with welded gusset - very strong) but the kit had mismatched bolts/nuts to afix them so will have to put in GR 8.8 tomorrow after the alignment (used lesser bolts in shop to get by).
Other additions besides the option group are an AEM intake, a ''Euro" style antenna (works but not required - Sirius) and some neat LED lights to replace the stock map/dome filaments - they're a 9-bulb array and white in color (brighter and cooler than the original). Hella 500 Free Form going on next but fabricating a bull bar to mount them out of 2 or 2.5 inch pipe first.
Keeping stock 215/65R/17 tires (and have snows mounted on steel rims).
BigDuke6 04-20-2008, 11:52 AM rude, love the look! Who made the kit, who installed it, and did it affect the ride/handling at all?
rudeboy 04-20-2008, 12:21 PM You will find this lift here (specific vendor web page):
http://www.rocky-road.com/patriotsus.html
Currently selling for $329.00 USD (shipping/taxes not included).
It is an over-the-strut spacer with additional (replacement) rear control arms and simple front stabilizer link extensions (much discussion about first generation extensions that were, I suppose, underbuilt) but the sticky thread in this forum (first on list) makes it very clear that Rocky Road Outfitters have stepped up to the plate; redesigned/rebuilt the part; and offer it in current/future/previous (just ask) purchases.
All hardware/fittings included plus instructions (check your kit for completeness and proper bolts, etc). Some other forum contributors (hvac59) provided additional instructions w/pics (very comprehensive).
Immediately after install the gap lessened a tiny bit but still looks great. Didn't have any perceptible handling oddities between home/alignment shop but drove tamely and only 20 kilometers. Alignment went OK but just pointed out the nature of the kit to techs beforehand - and, like me, if your steering wheel is off-center one way or the other you'll want to make sure they address that. Post-alignment handling seems fine but won't have substantial mileage for a few days (have to leave town on business). However, it seems - in a microscopic way - like I'm adjusting the wheel to stay on track a little more than I thought I did. I consider this the circumstance of a higher center of gravity or am just too fussy. Afterall, my personality forces me to shrug if my house burns down but go AWOL if I get mustard on my shirt (hee, hee)...
heckler 04-21-2008, 12:08 PM the wifes lifted 08.....(on the left obviously) next to a stocker.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/jeepin1995/100_1333.jpg
that's got to be the best before/after pic we've ever seen! Thanks for the great idea!
jeepin1995 04-21-2008, 06:32 PM you can definitely tell the lift a lot better next to a stock height pat.
WhatARiot 04-21-2008, 07:28 PM Just wondering from you guys, how is the MPG with the lift... and tires? Noticeable, or no??
JeepJim 04-22-2008, 10:29 AM WhatARiot, I have only had lift and tires installed for a short period of time and do not drive great lengths to work. However on the two tanks I have shown a slight fall in gas mileage.
Here are my results:
26.0-28.0 mpg - Stock
24.0-27.5 mpg - K&N AirCharger (CAI) - took two tanks to figure out economical driving habits with additional power.
25.0-27.0 mpg - RRO Lift w/ K&N
24.6-25.3 mpg - 245/65R17's w/ RRO Lift and K&N (only two tanks) - still trying to find the new sweet spot (RPM) for best economy.
I am considering removing the K&N AIR Charger (CAI) to see how that will effect my gas mileage and normal performance now that the tires and lift are installed.
CJs07RIOT 04-23-2008, 11:35 AM I also have the RR kit on my Riot
1inchgroup 04-23-2008, 11:40 PM Finally convinced myself to do it...ordered the lift and supersliders about 5 minutes ago...
Hang on...that might be the UPS guy...
Damn. Wasn't him.
When are these things coming?
It's been forever...
Wait...maybe that's him...
JeepJim 04-24-2008, 02:32 AM Be patient 1inchgroup... then once its all installed go be bold...
Have you decided on what size tires your going to mount after the kit is installed?
1inchgroup 04-24-2008, 02:49 AM The only concern that the dealership near me seems to have is increasing the stress on the transmission... think I'm going to end up leaving the stock sized wheels and tires on there for now. Between the CB fiasco and the purchase tonite, I've tapped out my play budget for quite a few paychecks anyway. Kind of want to wait and see how this trans holds up to the stress of bigger tires.
Schoat333 04-24-2008, 09:56 AM well i was going to have a local shop do a custom lift to try and get a little more than the RRO offers but it would be too much of a hasle so ill be ordering my RRO kit shortly.
Finally convinced myself to do it...ordered the lift and supersliders about 5 minutes ago...
Hang on...that might be the UPS guy...
Damn. Wasn't him.
When are these things coming?
It's been forever...
Wait...maybe that's him...
Should we change your user name to the "2.25inchgroup"? :p
Manaus 04-25-2008, 09:16 AM Just ordering a RRO kit too. What would be a max tyre size to fit on R15 wheel once lifted?
Something like 235/85? Thanks for the help.
Also planning to order a SEMA bumper custom made lookalike with a winch mount.
TJinWV 04-25-2008, 09:25 AM Just ordering a RRO kit too. What would be a max tyre size to fit on R15 wheel once lifted?
Something like 235/85? Thanks for the help.
Also planning to order a SEMA bumper custom made lookalike with a winch mount.
Are you sure you have an R15 wheel? The factory wheels are either 16" or 17".
JeepJim 04-25-2008, 09:27 AM I can't find the post now, but someone did try to mount 15" wheels on his 'Riot and they did not clear the brakes... May have been the wheel he was using, and he never posted photos to prove it. But thought I would share the information regardless.
Manaus 04-25-2008, 09:34 AM Thanks for the response. I have stock 17s, but I wanted to have an additional set of 15s (now probably 16s) with BFG Mud Terrains on these. The thing is that good mud tyres readily available in Moscow are somehow mostly for 14-15s.
Manaus 04-28-2008, 04:58 AM Will BFG MT 225/75R16 fit with RRO kit with no other mods? Thanks!
JeepJim 04-28-2008, 08:16 AM I seem to have misspoken Manaus, it seems as though you can indeed mount 15" wheels...
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26651&postcount=17
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5478
I am sorry for the confusion...
Manaus 04-28-2008, 08:47 AM JeepJim, thanks for the help.
Do you have any rubbing issues with the tyre width of 245?
JeepJim 04-28-2008, 10:02 AM yes slightly when the steering wheel is turned all the way in either direction.. it is only minor though, not enough to scare me. I really should get some photos of it so people can see it... many have asked.
1inchgroup 04-28-2008, 09:43 PM Should we change your user name to the "2.25inchgroup"? :p
It would be less pressure on my brains while at the range... :)
jmnation 05-05-2008, 01:38 PM i'm in the lifted group...but I want to go bigger! :)
PatriotCruiser 05-07-2008, 07:53 PM So close to getting my Patriot up off the ground. RR says they shipped my kit on Monday and the UPS tracking shows delivery Friday!!!!!
Finally!! I have been waiting a month and calling almost every other day to check. I am going to have a shop in Toledo install my lift sometime next week. Already have my 235/65/17 A/T's mounted and that alone did wonders to make the Pat look more beefy. I will post my pics (tires mounted without the lift and then after the lift) along with the others.
1inchgroup 05-07-2008, 08:17 PM So close to getting my Patriot up off the ground. RR says they shipped my kit on Monday and the UPS tracking shows delivery Friday!!!!!
Finally!! I have been waiting a month and calling almost every other day to check. I am going to have a shop in Toledo install my lift sometime next week. Already have my 235/65/17 A/T's mounted and that alone did wonders to make the Pat look more beefy. I will post my pics (tires mounted without the lift and then after the lift) along with the others.
What's the weight on the package they shipped? I ordered the supersliders and the lift, but the UPS notification I got said they shipped one 20 pound box. Should be here tomorrow!!! I bet it's the sliders...
PatriotCruiser 05-07-2008, 08:22 PM UPS says my pakage is 20lbs so I would assume that your lift kit has been shipped. I know when I talked to RR on Monday they had shipped out 10 orders that were on back order. They were waiting on the new redesigned brackets.
1inchgroup 05-07-2008, 08:42 PM That would be super cool...looks like I may be lifting it and fixing the hideous CB install this weekend. Funny though, called RR once and they said the sliders would ship before the lift. Oh well...as long as it gets here soon.
PatriotCruiser 05-07-2008, 08:54 PM What size tires are you running on your Pat? I am kind of wishing that I didn't spend the money on the wheel group (mine is a FD1) because I would like to install mud tires and you can only get those in 16" to keep less than the 30" dia max on the Patriot. I have since bought a set of A/T's in 235/65/17 and I guess with my commute the A/T's are better than the M/T's for everyday.
JeepJim 05-08-2008, 05:11 AM Theres a better selection of mud tires in the 225/75R16's than the 235's for some reason... you may want to check those out.
1inchgroup 05-11-2008, 03:23 AM Whoo Hoo!
Thanks again to HVAC and the post showing the critical errors I might have made. Lovin' the lift....I was happy to sit next to a Liberty at a red light and I was a little higher. One bad thing...the air is a little thin way up here. Might need an O2 mask.
Here they are. Tried to get the same angle on the shots, but I was off a bit.
http://www.fastpictures.com/images/oneinchgroup/before.jpg
BEFORE
http://www.fastpictures.com/images/oneinchgroup/after.jpg
AFTER
TJinWV 05-12-2008, 08:59 AM Whoo Hoo!
Thanks again to HVAC and the post showing the critical errors I might have made. Lovin' the lift....I was happy to sit next to a Liberty at a red light and I was a little higher. One bad thing...the air is a little thin way up here. Might need an O2 mask.
Here they are. Tried to get the same angle on the shots, but I was off a bit.
Looks good! What are your tire plans?
BTW, what model Liberty were you beside? I assume it was a KJ? I was parked beside a KK the other day and it was bigger than my lifted Pat.
JeepJim 05-12-2008, 10:00 AM 1inchgroup, you were added to the ever growing lift list...
Tskm2 05-18-2008, 07:29 PM any put "trail rated" coil spring in FD1 ? its fit or not ont all patriot shock, or trail rated have a different?
79bigmack 05-26-2008, 10:20 PM the wifes lifted 08.....(on the left obviously) next to a stocker.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/jeepin1995/100_1333.jpg
Do you have any more pics of your Pat lifted??
tnx
Jeepin' 05-27-2008, 05:39 PM Aren't all the "Trail Rated" Jeep Patriots considered lifted? :smiley_thumbs_up: Compared to the FDI models they are. Or is this just limited to the aftermarket?
(Runs for cover sensing a backlash...) :loser1:
:popcorn:
79bigmack 05-28-2008, 02:17 PM Aren't all the "Trail Rated" Jeep Patriots considered lifted? :smiley_thumbs_up: Compared to the FDI models they are. Or is this just limited to the aftermarket?
(Runs for cover sensing a backlash...) :loser1:
:popcorn:
Huh? Of the two white Pats in the pic, neither are FDII, and only the one on the left is lifted (FDI). I just wanted to see some more pics of the lifted FDI.
Jeepin' 05-28-2008, 03:21 PM :friday:
I was wondering if the 2 white Patriot's in the pics were "Trail rated". :p
Thanks for the clarification! :D
Doritos is a brand name as well. But if I open a bag and find cheetos inside, well, something's gonna hit the fan... :smiley_thumbs_up:
Wow - never met anyone so passionate about their cheesy snack foods. :)
Aus Patriot 06-02-2008, 07:43 PM Hi Guy's,
I just orded mine. Should be here really really soon.............
1inchgroup 06-02-2008, 08:14 PM Doritos should be available at your local convenience store...I don't think you have to order them.
The order wasn't placed for you by some government official from South Africa was it...?...because I hear those emails are ripoffs.
Hi Guy's,
I just orded mine. Should be here really really soon.............
let me know how long it takes to get to you.
cheers M
umassjeepster 06-07-2008, 07:52 PM jeepjim i've lifted my jeep and i love the extra hight
Aus Patriot 06-07-2008, 10:07 PM Sure will do Mud.
They sent me an e-mail on Wed last week after I made the order that it would take a week before it goes out due to the large back orders. I was told as soon as it goes I'll get a tracking number for it. I have been bringing a few things from the US in the the last couple of months and transit time has been approx 8-10 days. I just hope it gets here by the 23/6 as I've got a week of work to load the Pat up with all the gear I've orded.
Jeepster55 06-07-2008, 11:21 PM Aren't all the "Trail Rated" Jeep Patriots considered lifted? :smiley_thumbs_up: Compared to the FDI models they are. Or is this just limited to the aftermarket?
(Runs for cover sensing a backlash...) :loser1:
:popcorn:
here we go, it's deja vu all over again. :doh:
no, the "Trail Rated" Patriots are NOT 'factory lifted'. they have a slight increase in ground clearance due to the taller "All Terrain Tires" and different springs. that' it. i think it's less than an inch.
if you simply put taller TIRES on your FDI 'MK', you'll have more GC than a "Trail Rated" model.......;)
Aus Patriot 06-13-2008, 01:51 AM It's on its way to Perth now :-)
International Dispatch, June 11, 2008, 12:19 pm, SAN FRANCISCO
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Electronic Shipping Info Received, June 09, 2008
Jeepguy819 06-13-2008, 09:44 PM jeepjim i've lifted my jeep and i love the extra hight
umass' i'm on the north shore, (GO GREEN) did you install the lift yourself, or did a shop do it ? what tires are you running ? what size ? How about MPG decrease ? Mines 3 weeks old, looking to lift it but the fall !
Aus Patriot 06-17-2008, 02:14 AM Well the kit has arrived.
The Pat is booked in for next week with Arb on Tuesday to get it installed with a few other things. Then on Wednesday morning its going in for new rubber in the morning.
Man this waiting is going to kill me I think.
nebcarson 06-18-2008, 11:16 AM lifted last night. drives well. no problems with the kit.
good stuff RRO.
Aus Patriot 06-24-2008, 07:54 AM Hi All,
Just had the lift instaled this afternoon. Came out great no probs what so ever.
RRO did a great job on the quality of this gear(I have sent them a thank you message regarding there service). I went over some speed bumps on the way home to see if there was any noise nope all good. I alos had a GME TX3400 UHF installed along with a cigarette lighter and hella plug in the back for my 40L Engel fridge.
My home drive was approx 30 min and I thought the Pat would be all over the place without the alignment done but it was pretty good. The stearing wheel was also dead smack in the centre after the instal. I'm going in tomorrow at 8am to have some Cooper ATR's put on and have an alignment done. I've chosen 235/60R17's. I'll post some pictures tomorrow but the Pat is totally different to what it was stock a few hrs ago.
AZCA jeeper 06-24-2008, 11:39 AM http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii47/hydroballistic/worthless.gif
We want them now, not tomorrow.:D
nebcarson 06-24-2008, 11:54 AM http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/1570/liftpics010ie9.jpg
By nebcarson (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/nebcarson), shot with FE-120,X-700 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=FE-120%2CX-700&make=OLYMPUS+IMAGING+CORP) at 2008-06-18
done last week.
1st RRO CRD in the UK/IRL???
JeepJim 06-25-2008, 05:37 PM Updated the list...
Keep up the lift photos guys we are lookin' good!
PatriotCruiser 06-25-2008, 06:45 PM Don't forget to add Patriotcruiser to the list!
JeepJim 06-26-2008, 01:31 PM sorry man... added ya to the list!
my kit arrived to day will be doin the fitout next monday still decidng on rubber;)
blitzbuggy 07-04-2008, 02:56 PM what the total amount of ground clearance abtained befor and after the lift?
heckler 07-06-2008, 09:03 PM Just got mine lifted Friday. Had local tire store do it. 102.00 for install and 59.00 for alignment. Did a great job. Of course they also sold me 4 new tires 235/70/17. Looks spectacular now. Now it looks like a jeep should.:pepper:
better add csutton, although he still owes us pictures!
I was most interested in his tire size.
ok did mine today, yokohama geolanders 235/65/17 and looks great, did the lift myself and had the aligment and tyres done this arvo, did not need the camber bolts as all was almost perfect only had to adjust the upper radius arms and a slight tweak on the tie rods, pics soon
as promised with a standard pat next to it for comparison
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc33/elbowt/0708081137-00.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc33/elbowt/0708081136-00.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc33/elbowt/0708081135-00.jpg
heckler 07-10-2008, 12:38 PM I pulled the trigger yesterday! Enough farting around. Let's get this done!
heckler 07-11-2008, 07:19 PM and two days later, I get a notice from UPS saying there's a package on it's way for the 17th! :banana:
MAC III 08-05-2008, 06:08 PM Has this list been updated. I am sure there are a lot more now!
Boilermaker 08-06-2008, 11:21 AM please add me to the lifted list...hopefully someday soon I'll get around to posting pictures and discussing my experience
JeepJim 08-06-2008, 03:16 PM sorry I was away on vacation for 40 days... got back and hadn't checked... I'll get to it this weekend...
JeepJim 08-06-2008, 03:23 PM Ok, I updated with those that were either suggested by other members or those that posted photos here in this thread... I apologize but I just do not have time to scour the entire forum looking for others who have lifted their MK's.
snokat 08-06-2008, 06:55 PM Great looking lifts, kudos to all you 4x4 owners. So what do you think about me doin' my wife's 4x2? Sure would look good! It would be a panic to do it behind her back. Wonder how long t would take her to notice? Especially if I don't do the rubbers 'til they are worn...only has 13k on them.
UPDATED: Just ordered my RRO lift kit this morning after stopping by 4wheelparts in WPB, FL. They are eager to do this, I think they are more stoked than I am.....if that's possible.
Anyone know what the delivery lag is at this time? I see I can't ask RRO until tomorrow after the order is in progress.
So will this be the first 4x2 RRO lift on the forum?
2474
2475
heckler 08-07-2008, 02:18 PM I'm now a member. :pepper: It's at the alignment shop now.
It took me 4 hours on Wednesday night to install the right rear by myself, and 3-1/2 hours to do the other three wheels with a buddy last night. Did it all in the parking lot at work with a floor jack, two jack stands and the Jeeps spare tire jack. With the technique learned from the right rear, I was able to install the left rear on my own in an hour and a half before my buddy showed up to do the fronts with me.
A couple things I learned:
1. on the rear, make sure you disconnect the sway bar on both sides.:mad:
2. on the rear, make sure you have alignment bars (pointed, tapered metal bars to slide through to line up bolt holes)
3. on the rear, install the two bolts that hold the wheel knuckle to the upper and lower control arms first, then install the shock bolt by lifting on the wheel knuckle with a small jack.
4. on the front, take extra beer, because it's really easy compared to the rears.
5. be patient when waiting for RRO to ship the whole kit. They shipped mine in two parcels, two weeks apart. That was painful.
Pics coming, but I refuse to post up a pic with a tape measure or a water jug under the jeep. It'll be a couple weekends before I tak'er offroad due to other commitments (windsurfing baby!)
ilflyya 08-07-2008, 03:42 PM [/QUOTE]
Pics coming, but I refuse to post up a pic with a tape measure or a water jug under the jeep. It'll be a couple weekends before I tak'er offroad due to other commitments (windsurfing baby!)[/QUOTE]
Refuse? Is it that difficult? Just curious:)
heckler 08-07-2008, 04:27 PM I lifted it for driving offroad, not over water bottles and tape measures. ;) We all know 9 + 2 = 11 by now.
snokat 08-07-2008, 05:06 PM The lowest chassis Jeep ever built, it still amazes me. Has anyone in snow country had problems stuffing the radiator with snow at factory suspension height? I see that Jeep says the Pat can forge up to 19" of H2O @ 5mph.
Heckler, if you trying to heckle, please do better. You are fired!
heckler 08-07-2008, 06:18 PM it wasn't meant as a personal jab.
snokat 08-07-2008, 06:33 PM Kewl. Still trying to figure the water bottle thing.:confused:
I just heard from RRO, UPS has been notified. SWEET!!! Same day shipping?
Heckler, sounds like you had a devil of a time with the install. My guess is that the pictures with the directions weren't quite what you expected?
I have no intention of tying it myself. I would have a couple of years back when I had a friend with a shop and the tools. Now, I'm in FL, have a broken finger, no tools and a shoulder that is waiting for surgery.
I was quoted a price of $280 including alignment, but the shop here might do better when they see it. They were impressed by the fact that the camber offset bolts come with the kit.
UPS tracking says it is arriving on 8/13 so it will go on on 8/16. Xcellent!
snokat 08-18-2008, 04:23 PM Lift kit went on this morning during the rain from TS Fay. Took the tech 3.5 hours and about an hour for the alignment.
Drives great, no noise or pull of any kind. Steering wheel is straight as factory.
Overall, I am impressed with the fit of the kit. Though I think RRO means 1-hour per wheel!!! Rear is tricky compared to the front end. Takes 3-hands at times, and a "persuader!"
Paid $292.50 for the install and $95.00 for the alignment plus tax.
Chris at 4 wheel parts WPB, FL is a great tech. His first Patriot lift.
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heckler 08-31-2008, 11:51 PM Count me a member. :banana:
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Squamishoffroad020.jpg
heckler 08-31-2008, 11:52 PM More pics here... (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8424)
heckler 09-01-2008, 12:25 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwyh_K9tNM
Here's why I got the lift. My 4 door S-10 Jimmy would have had both bumpers torn off here...
short wheelbase = no problemo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwyh_K9tNM
Tony1911 09-01-2008, 04:05 AM Y'all will never guess what modification was done to my Jeep last week... :)
The shop I took it to claimed the install was a bit problematic. In fact, the place they use to do alignments was closed by the time they finished. Earliest time I was able to get for alignment was today afternoon. Still, while the driving wheel isn't straight, other than that, it's a smooth ride even without the alignment. Guess I got lucky. (Not that I've been driving around much without the alignment done, but the Jeep is our only vehicle, so...)
Now I just need proper tires, some off-road lights, and rock sliders. :) And the money to fund all that... :rolleyes:
jeepin1995 09-14-2008, 09:46 PM seen you had me on the list on page 1, but no vehicle listed..... it's an 08 pat, FD1 auto trans. actually the wifes ride. here's a lifted pic with stock tires.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/jeepin1995/100_2006.jpg
Prushinfox 09-15-2008, 10:24 AM http://www.polaskiglass.com/patriot.html
Here's my lift. I just ordered a V bar for the front end...Black.
I am still searching for a rear bumper guard. Seems impossible
to find.
heckler 09-15-2008, 09:35 PM I bet Rocky Road is happy they made a lift for us! Lot's of people buying it!
Just a note to the bumper manufacturers out there....
patman16 09-15-2008, 11:50 PM mine is lifted Im not at a computer but if you look at the thread I started
heckler 09-16-2008, 03:00 AM mine is lifted Im not at a computer but if you look at the thread I started
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8651
this one...
igorok 09-16-2008, 03:38 AM I would ask lifted jeeplers give me the part numbers of their lift kits please. I guess there are several different producers and suppliers for them. I am gonna search some of them in Moscow.
Thanks
Igor
Tony1911 09-16-2008, 05:34 AM igorok, not really. Only lift kit I know for sure exists, and what at least the vast majority of us have, is the Rocky Road kit. (Last weekend I did hear a claim of a Finnish made 1.5" lift kit, but that is just a second hand rumor.) IIRC Animal did say he modified his kit to get 3" of lift, but that is a one-off modification of the Rocky Road kit. There was talk of another company researching the issue but I don't think they ever got their kit into production.
igorok 09-16-2008, 06:09 AM OK Tony. give please the Rocky Road Kit's number. And by the way, how much got it for you in Finland including shipping and who is distributor in Finland?
Thanks
Igor
Aus Patriot 09-16-2008, 07:01 PM http://www.rocky-road.com/patriotsus.html
Follow the link and send them an e-mail to find out what the postage to door delivery is.
igorok 09-16-2008, 11:17 PM Done!
STOCKYbuilt 09-17-2008, 01:16 AM Count me in - as of Sept 16, Tues. I've finally caught up with the crowd. It took the shop between 3 - 3.5 hours to get the whole lift installed, so it wasn't bad at all. Looks great, but experiencing the usual and pretty common "side-affects" after the installation:
1) Rear suspension squeaking driving in and out of driveways / over speed-bumps at any given speed
2) Alignment done, but steering wheel slightly off to the left in order to drive straight. So it pulls to the right if I level off the steering wheel.
Hope the squeaking sounds will disappear in time. We'll have to see.
Tony1911 09-17-2008, 02:43 AM igorok, there is no distributor in Finland as far as I know. I ordered direct from Rocky Road. I think shipping was about $130 with USPS.
Aus Patriot 09-17-2008, 07:33 AM Mate, I went through with the squeaking noise also. But have fixed it now and all is quiet.
Try this.
1. Make sure that the control arms are really greased up. The bolts that go into the control arms need to be greased up really good. When this is done when you go over bumps up or down the noise will stop ASAP. It’s the bolts inside that are rubbing on the control arm when you go up or down thus making the noise.
2. When going up the driveway and your Pat's body is flexing mine was making a noise also, make sure that the rear sway bar rubbers are really greases up. This will subdue the noise also.
The noise will not just go away on its own. Grease grease and grease the area with a good quality grease and you will be fine. I had my RRO lift done at 5000km and now at almost 15000km and all is good.
JeepinLG 09-18-2008, 08:41 PM I'm a member! Finally! haha
Schwankster 09-18-2008, 11:14 PM I'm trying to become a member, but RRO ran out of kits last weekend! I ordered mine on Friday, but had a few questions and didn't pay for it until Monday - they sold the last kits over the weekend. I paid for my kit (and a set of SuperSliders too!) at the beginning of this week, but they said it'll be two weeks for both items to be manufactured and shipped. If you want a kit, you'd better get your order in (and pay for it!).
petbug 09-23-2008, 03:39 AM I am almost decided to order my RR lift and up-size my tires. Can anyone report on loss of power and change in fuel consumption after going up to 29.5 or 30" tires? Specifically on FDII type w/off road pkg. I have talked with a friend who is top level Chrysler mechanic - electronics specialist and he warned me about a big drop in mpg with larger tires. He also confirmed 28" is the largest tire speedometer can be properly calibrated to (posted also by someone before), because that is the limit of the modifiable programming. As for RR lift, problems with alignment, steering and noise issues, experienced by many members, are little intimidating. (Rocky Road are U reading this?) What seems to be "typical" installation time for lift and would the "off road" type a shop be best qualified to do this? Please put my fears to rest and let me join MK RR club.
nebcarson 09-23-2008, 05:22 AM mpg(on CRD) down from around 40-42 to 38....going from 215/60x17 conti sport contact(100% road ) to kumho KL 78 A/T 235/65x17.
speedo is a little out but i have road angel for speed cameras which gives a satellite read out of speed...so not an issue.
needed alignment done as when |RRO kit fitted steering wheel was a bit out and it put the esp light on. once this was sorted light went out.
tyres are a little noisier once you get to 75mph but handling is 100% on road.....very impressed as i have tried 16" wrangler M/T R's on the Riot and handling is totally crap on road and the noise is unbearable......
took my mechanic mate and myself around 3 hours including checking of alignment before and after with old type sight alignment guage.
heckler 02-22-2009, 01:28 PM I think we're due for an update on this list!
Jeep Jim, are you still out there????
If you're not on the list yet, post up a picture of your lifted MK here!
heckler 02-22-2009, 01:32 PM I thought it would be a good idea to compile a list of everyone that has lifted their MK. This is what I have so far:
MAC III - Patriot
Gramps - Compass
hvac59 - Patriot
goebel1 - Patriot
liftedMK - Compass
JeepJim - Patriot
quiff69 - Patriot
Tskm2 - Patriot
TJinWV - Patriot
jeepin1995 -
Rudeboy - Patriot
CJs07RIOT - Patriot
1inchgroup - Patriot
umassjeepster - Patriot
nebcarson - Patriot
Aus Patriot - Patriot (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showpost.php?p=126555&postcount=13)
PatriotCruiser - Patriot (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showpost.php?p=82070&postcount=80)
zbee - Patriot
csutton - no photo
nebcarson - Patriot
patman16 - Patriot (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8651)
Animal - Patriot (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8592&highlight=animal)
STOCKYbuilt - Patriot
JeepinLG - Patriot (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8723)
petbug - Patriot
snokat - Patriot
LIFTEDMK08 - Patriot (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12447)
tony1911 - Patriot
Copper - Patriot (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12920)
Boilermaker (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8246)
phatdilf - Patriot (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3153711)
jakep707 - Patriot
vicbitter - Patriot (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showpost.php?p=131643&postcount=125)
If you are a member please just reply with either your thread discussing your lift or post a photo and I'll add you to the club list!
Last updated February 25, 2009.
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heckler 02-24-2009, 01:25 PM http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/jakep707/DSCI0011.jpg
jeez, put it in the right thread...
PS - :smiley_thumbs_up:
- George - 02-25-2009, 06:09 AM Me too!
darseygodwin 03-20-2009, 03:18 PM Just gimme a week and a half and I'll be a member, they're just shipping mine now. But then again, we'll see how long the border keeps it for inspection to see if the kit comes equipped with Cocaine or criminals hidden in the box!! oh tough crowd *cough*
ttilley 03-21-2009, 09:17 PM I've been lifted for a wile now.
Over 30K on since the lift and wheels were installed and no issues.
Draws lots of attentions
BFG's have been the best tire I have ever bought
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/1ttilley/IMG00021-20081108-1011.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/1ttilley/DSC04539.jpg
Playing in the snow
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/1ttilley/DSC04572.jpg
Scottg173 03-21-2009, 10:56 PM Hey TTilley. Your ride looks awesome. I am considering the lift myself and tires are also a concern.. Would I be able to fit those tires on my current rims without any rubbing or alterations? I have the factory 17" rims with the crappy firestone tires. Thanks
heckler 03-22-2009, 07:50 PM no. 16" tires won't fit 17" rims.
ttilley 03-22-2009, 10:51 PM Hey TTilley. Your ride looks awesome. I am considering the lift myself and tires are also a concern.. Would I be able to fit those tires on my current rims without any rubbing or alterations? I have the factory 17" rims with the crappy firestone tires. Thanks
They won't fit on your current rims.
You will need the RR lift.
I needed to take the heat gun to the iner fender well.
I was on a budget so hunted down used rubi wheels
The Ruby wheels are easy to find used mine only cost $400 .
16 rims give more options.
Scottg173 03-22-2009, 11:30 PM Well, I talked to my brother today, His best friend is a mechanic and has a Cherokee sport which he lifted himself. They told me they will install it for me.. So i will save $ there. My question now is, I am spending a lot for the lift kit and rockrail kit, as well as tires. I really don't want to get new rims, plus I actually like the 17" rims it came with.. Does anyone know of any decent tires that will look good and fit my current rims?
JeepJim 03-23-2009, 08:44 AM Updated March 23, 2009
with special thanks to heckler for helping me out in my extend absence from the site.
JeepJim 03-23-2009, 12:16 PM I created the "Lifted MK's" group:
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/group.php?groupid=20
and encourage all those with lifted Patriots's and Compasses to join.
maahes 03-23-2009, 01:36 PM I joined the club this weekend, sitting at the dealership waiting on the alignment as I type :D
Before http://stuff.maahes.net/files/1/beforelift.JPG
After: http://stuff.maahes.net/files/1/afterlift.JPG
Danacus 03-24-2009, 08:31 AM I have an appointment to get the lift installed on Friday:banana:
Danacus 03-28-2009, 09:05 AM As of yesterday, My FD1 is 2 1/8" higher:smiley_thumbs_up:
heckler 04-16-2009, 12:10 AM need to add Darcygodwin to the list, and get some pictures from him and Danacus!
bonnzac 06-09-2009, 09:25 PM up
Will H 06-09-2009, 11:06 PM I guess I am too (3 weeks ago) I'll get some photos when I get the new tires in a few more weeks.
randall808 06-10-2009, 12:30 AM you can add me on that list too please!!http://images2d.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp536%3B9%3Enu%3D3878%3E857%3E255%3EWS NRCG%3D324%3A5742%3B2346nu0mrj
JeepJim 06-10-2009, 06:12 AM I'll update the list later tonight...
phatdilf 06-10-2009, 08:21 AM im in
I just ordered mine today, so I'll post pics as soon as I get it on!!!
MickeyG 06-26-2009, 06:53 PM I have the Rocky Road lift kit in a box along with strut stabalizer, skid plates, and trailer hitch. All will be installed over the next week.
Stormkloud 07-02-2009, 09:00 AM You can add me ! Still fighting a creaking sound in the rear but gonna try and get that fixed today.
heckler 07-02-2009, 04:47 PM nice stormkloud! Destination AT's?
Stormkloud 07-02-2009, 09:51 PM yeah , white letter in , like it much better like that. :)
MickeyG 07-10-2009, 10:30 AM RRO kit is in, Massive Speed Systems front strut brace, Front and rear skid plates, and a hitch. Had all work done at a local place here in Wilmington NC. Installer was Performance Innovations
http://www.per4manceinnovations.com/
You can add me as well!! I haven't had time to get pictures up but I put it on last Thursday and got it aligned Friday. It went pretty smooth only took me about 2 1/2 hours with a break to eat dinner. I'll get the picture after I wash it up!
Camas 07-15-2009, 12:37 PM Add me too. I ordered on Monday, they arrive today (Wdenesday) and scheduled for install this Friday. Yee Haw! :banana:
chadandy12 07-28-2009, 11:38 PM RRO lift owners!!! I am curious about doing the lift myself or having a shop do it. Worried if I do it myself vs professionally it may effect the warrenty differently. The place that the dealership I baught my pat from sends their vehicles to this off road place to be lifted and or add performance parts. They quoted me 250.00 in labor to install the rro lift. I would like to do it myself and save the 250.00 opinions? Thanks for the help did not want to start new thread. Oh btw whats the average price of a professional alignment?
RRO lift owners!!! I am curious about doing the lift myself or having a shop do it. Worried if I do it myself vs professionally it may effect the warrenty differently. The place that the dealership I baught my pat from sends their vehicles to this off road place to be lifted and or add performance parts. They quoted me 250.00 in labor to install the rro lift. I would like to do it myself and save the 250.00 opinions? Thanks for the help did not want to start new thread. Oh btw whats the average price of a professional alignment?
I did mine myself and it was pretty easy. If you do decide to do it yourself, it helps to have air tools it makes it way easier! I took my time and it only took me about 2 hours of actual install time. If you have never done any type of suspension work then the job might be difficult, but for $250 I would do it yourself. The alignment cost me $40 but I think the average rate is about $80ish.
chadandy12 07-29-2009, 02:38 PM Thank you very much for the information. I have searched in this forum quite a bit for warrenty info on lifts, I even called the warrenty dept. directly and the service manager at the jeep dealer I buaght mine from and have not gotten a direct answer on if it effects its? I am sort of waiting to get an offical answer before I install the lift.
I did mine myself and it was pretty easy. If you do decide to do it yourself, it helps to have air tools it makes it way easier! I took my time and it only took me about 2 hours of actual install time. If you have never done any type of suspension work then the job might be difficult, but for $250 I would do it yourself. The alignment cost me $40 but I think the average rate is about $80ish.
Are you wonder about the Jeeps warranty if you put a lift on it or the lift's warranty if you installed it compared to a shop?
chadandy12 07-29-2009, 07:50 PM Well both, I am curious if the lift will effect the manufacturers warrenty in general, and then I started thinking if it were professionally installed it may help the warrenty issue rather than me intalling it but not sure. I guess my main concern is I don't want to put a lift on her with 500 miles only and have an issue with something and all of a sudden I am SOL. I know if the radio were to go out that has nothing to do with the lift and would be no issue, however they could link almost everything engine power train etc. with the link if they wanted to be dicks. I mean the lift will effect the angle of the drive shaft which is connected to the powertrain/tranny which is connected to the engine. I know its exteme but some warrenty's are very touchy and for me it might just not be worth it. Sorry for the long post.
The only way the lift will void the manufactures warranty is they can prove that the lift caused the problem, so say your tranny went out they would have to prove that the lift was putting so much pressure on the tranny it burned up. Which is really not possible. Really the only thing the lift could probably void is the springs, shocks and the cv shafts but not likely cuz it doesn't really change. It's against the law for them to void a warranty unless the can prove that the modified part caused the problem, and if it did cause a problem they can only void the part that was effected. There's a thread out there that states the law dealerships have to follow when it comes to aftermarket stuff. Oh and the lift does not effect the drive shaft cus it only effect the cv shafts. I would do it sooner than later if I were you while all the bolt are rust free, makes them easier to get off. Let me know if this helps?
Oh and as for the lift warranty rro has a lifetime warranty on their parts. If you would like I can show you some pics of the cv axles so you can see the angle they are at after the lift?
chadandy12 07-30-2009, 09:44 AM Thanks for all the help you have given me, your more informative than the dang dealership. I agree on doing it sooner than later as well no dirt/rust to deal with. thanks again
chadandy12 07-30-2009, 10:05 AM Ok update, I spoke with the off road place that my dealership sends thier jeeps to for performance upgrades. They said they installed the same lift (rro) on a keep for the dealership and warrenty was not an issues because they installed it professionally. Well I find it hard to believe it would make that big of a difference if i did it or they did it. Thoughts?
Camas 07-30-2009, 11:11 AM My feeling is that having a professional shop do it takes the pressure off if there is any question about warrantee.
I know my mechanic had a hell of a time with the rear alignment, specifiaclly camber. It took a full day to get the alignment right. Everyone I talked to, includding RRO, said that the design of the Patriot for camber adjustment is a total pain.
I was glad to have them do the whole thing.
chadandy12 07-30-2009, 11:46 AM Yeah I was wondering that as well for 250.00 install + 40.00 for alignment a bit spendy but peace of mind and possibly warrenty still intact and install warrenty makes for a hard decsion not to have it installed professionally. The dealership I got mine from actually sold a brand new one off the floor with the rro lift installed by this offroad place I am thinknig of taking mine to, so that leads me towrds getting it installed as well.
My feeling is that having a professional shop do it takes the pressure off if there is any question about warrantee.
I know my mechanic had a hell of a time with the rear alignment, specifiaclly camber. It took a full day to get the alignment right. Everyone I talked to, includding RRO, said that the design of the Patriot for camber adjustment is a total pain.
I was glad to have them do the whole thing.
Well the decision is yours. If you have the money and want to spend it on getting it installed by so called proffessionals that have probably only put one of these lifts on then go for it :-) Hey so I guess that makes me a proffessional now too! How about you take a road trip to Colorado and I'll put it on for you for $100 haha. But they won't cover any of jeeps warranty, they will only cover what they did to the jeep. Which would be just be the labor of install.
chadandy12 07-30-2009, 01:45 PM Good point, well all that is left is to buy the darn thing and install it. I think I will probably end up doing it myself to save the 250.00 being I did not want to spend 600.00 on the lift and installation. 330.00 for the lift or so plus 40-60for the alignment is much better. Oh btw if i lived closer I would actually take u up on the 100.00 offer. My Mom used to live in Brighton, CO but moved back last year. Thanks again guys
Well the decision is yours. If you have the money and want to spend it on getting it installed by so called proffessionals that have probably only put one of these lifts on then go for it :-) Hey so I guess that makes me a proffessional now too! How about you take a road trip to Colorado and I'll put it on for you for $100 haha. But they won't cover any of jeeps warranty, they will only cover what they did to the jeep. Which would be just be the labor of install.
Good point, well all that is left is to buy the darn thing and install it. I think I will probably end up doing it myself to save the 250.00 being I did not want to spend 600.00 on the lift and installation. 330.00 for the lift or so plus 40-60for the alignment is much better. Oh btw if i lived closer I would actually take u up on the 100.00 offer. My Mom used to live in Brighton, CO but moved back last year. Thanks again guys
Ok well good luck with whatever you do. And if you do change your mind and what to come out to Colorado let me know. So if I put on two lifts would that make me an expert? haha
chadandy12 07-31-2009, 11:34 AM will do:smiley_thumbs_up:
Ok well good luck with whatever you do. And if you do change your mind and what to come out to Colorado let me know. So if I put on two lifts would that make me an expert? haha
Will H 07-31-2009, 10:50 PM Photo next to my buddies stock trail rated "06" TJ last weekend.
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chadandy12 07-31-2009, 11:10 PM looks good!!! I need a lift!!!
PatriotWhite21 09-07-2009, 09:30 PM Hopefully i will be soon planning to purchase my kit tomorrow and install it over the weekend if possible.
lilishmoto 09-12-2009, 10:47 AM OK fellas I definitely want to do this mod I took my Pat out on a camping trip with 36 miles on it and quickly found out that there is NO GROUND clearance. I think my Subaru imprezza had more...lol. No to be fair I traded a 1987 GMC full size Jimmy with 4" Lift and 33" tires so I might have been spoiled but I did not get crazy with the Pat and even small rocks seemed to hit the frame rails. No I did like getting 22 MPG over the 8 I used to get in the GMC. I am curious if there has been any noticeable MPG loss with the RR 2" lift? That is the only thing keeping me from doing the mod. I drive 50+ miles a day for work and the MPG is a consideration especially if gas prices go back up with it looks like they are.
heckler 09-12-2009, 07:55 PM no milage hit until you put bigger tires on too.
dixiedawg 09-18-2009, 09:34 AM With all of you doing this, and it being something I want to do as well (for the clearance, and maybe make it easier to put chains on in the winter) what would you all say is the best lift kit to get? I would probably have someone else do this for me. I probably could myself, but have too many other things going on to have the time for this.
Thanks!
koolkatken83 09-18-2009, 04:20 PM There is only one right now and that is the RRO Lift (http://www.rocky-road.com/patriot.html).
kojack 09-23-2009, 09:41 AM I noticed a few guys adding skid plates....are these being added to the FD2 setup?
I will be lifted after I get my rig here. I am taking off my lift on my F150 and selling it.
dixiedawg 09-23-2009, 10:37 AM FDII should come with skid plates, I think? Mine did. I want to add the lift though, once I can afford it.
I also want a nice brush guard for the front. I actually drive through a lot of brush. The weeds are no issue, but the honeysuckle and tree branches can be a problem.
Would be nice if the brush guard could also mount a winch.
kojack 09-23-2009, 06:21 PM really Hey!...brush guards would be great...also for mounting lights.
Yeah, i didn't know if it was aftermarket skid plates. I am selling the lift off my F150 to offset the cost of the ORR lift. wish an off road company spent some time on the pat, shocks would be great...
PatriotWhite21 09-26-2009, 07:04 PM I am now a member of the lifted MK club (2008 Patriot FDII pkg.):
Before
http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv185/taburch21/Patriot.jpg
After
http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv185/taburch21/Patriotlift.jpg
mr wizard 09-26-2009, 07:39 PM Photo next to my buddies stock trail rated "06" TJ last weekend.
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Will H, do you have anymore pics with the 225/70/17's? and have you had any problems with them since you put them on? rubbing etc...? Thanks!
I am now a member of the lifted MK club
After
http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv185/taburch21/Patriotlift.jpg
Looks Great! Welcome to the Club!
Tyler-98-W68 09-27-2009, 03:16 PM Will H, do you have anymore pics with the 225/70/17's? and have you had any problems with them since you put them on? rubbing etc...? Thanks!
I'm also interested in some pics of the 225/70/17 tires, i'm looking for something to mildy agressive to put on the stock 17" rims.
rubiconpatriot 10-03-2009, 11:27 PM I got the lift kit put in today didn't have time too take pics before it got dark will post tomorrow after the alignment in the morning.
rubiconpatriot 10-04-2009, 07:44 PM Here are the pics,before and after
kbfurlong 10-05-2009, 11:11 PM My obligatory without the RRO lift kit picture & with the RRO lift kit picture............ Get it ?
Here are the pics,before and after
Looks familiar! :wow: Looks good!
rubiconpatriot 10-06-2009, 12:54 AM Does anybody know if 245/75/16 would fit?
heckler 10-06-2009, 06:09 PM 245/70-16 is largest tested size to date - it rubs pretty good.
rubiconpatriot 10-07-2009, 12:47 AM Thanx Heckler for the advice.
jp-ajdayt 10-15-2009, 11:54 AM I got the RR lift installed on my FD2 Patriot yesterday and I think it was one of my better ideas. It looks good and drives great. I was wondering if I noticed a wobble going around one corner under some acceleration but they will inspect it and tighten down anything necessary in 10 days. :smiley_thumbs_up:
I might never put on larger tires, due to the size of the spare tire, and other considerations. I think the current tire/wheel package is fine.
jepstr67 10-19-2009, 10:45 PM Can any of you who have had the lift in there for a good number of miles make any statements about wear, alignment, and long term durability with the lift? I'm curious about any possible problems before I go for the much needed extra snow clearance.
heckler 10-19-2009, 10:55 PM I have a wobble at low speed when starting up, but suspect it's tire imbalance. The lift itself is very durable so far (I think I have 20,000 km on it). Just do it.
CV and ball joints TBD...
jp-ajdayt 10-20-2009, 11:10 PM I have a wobble at low speed when starting up, but suspect it's tire imbalance. The lift itself is very durable so far (I think I have 20,000 km on it). Just do it.
CV and ball joints TBD...
I might kinda have that too (tire imbalance?) - but I just came back from a 500 mile deer hunting trip with the new lift and everything was fine.
- George - 10-21-2009, 08:31 PM never had a problem, done about 10,000km with the lift
jepstr67 10-21-2009, 08:36 PM How does the RRO lift differ from the FD2 factory suspension?
jp-ajdayt 10-21-2009, 11:54 PM The RR lift just basically adds some extra height to the factory suspension (FD1, 2, or whatever) I believe.
And lifts don't increase your basic ground clearance, despite what some may believe, because your axles and some other parts are no higher. Lifts allow you to install larger diameter wheels and tires - which is what increases your ground clearance.
Tyler-98-W68 10-22-2009, 12:49 AM While I agree on your comments regarding lifts, the Patriot doesn't have axles that hang down low like other 4x4's do. The lift does create a noticable increase in ground clearance, and does allow larger tires to be used, but ultimately it is the backspacing on rims that helps install wider tires. We're still limited in overall diameter because of the spring perch.
jepstr67 10-22-2009, 08:23 AM We're still limited in overall diameter because of the spring perch.
I am using a tire that comes within 1/2" of the spring perch. 215-75R16 The RRO kit I've seen just adds a 2" spacer on top of the spring/strut mount. Is the FD2 suspension different? Or does it use a similar spacer like the RRO. Here in the snow, 2" more clearance can make a big difference. The taller tires really made a noticable difference in height, but I'm as big as I can go as far as sidewall height because of the spring.
heckler 10-23-2009, 12:34 AM 4600 posts and you're asking how the FDII is different than the FDI?? wow.
FDII just has stiffer springs. Adding the RRO will lift a FDI the same amount as an FDII. And the RRO sure increases the ground clearance all around, except under the lower control arms that are between the wheels and the unibody.
Now - reliability...
I just rotated my tires and found grease on my right inner CV joint. The metal band clamp appears a little loose, and I think it's coming through there. The CV boot is still good, but I cleaned it off and will investigate in a couple days.
Aus Patriot 10-23-2009, 08:08 AM I just rotated my tires and found grease on my right inner CV joint. The metal band clamp appears a little loose, and I think it's coming through there. The CV boot is still good, but I cleaned it off and will investigate in a couple days.
Same thing happened to me.
Jeep replaced the entire thing under warranty.
Right side also.
Grease coming from the metal clamp area.
jepstr67 10-23-2009, 10:03 AM 4600 posts and you're asking how the FDII is different than the FDI?? wow.
FDII just has stiffer springs. Adding the RRO will lift a FDI the same amount as an FDII. And the RRO sure increases the ground clearance all around, except under the lower control arms that are between the wheels and the unibody.
Now - reliability...
I just rotated my tires and found grease on my right inner CV joint. The metal band clamp appears a little loose, and I think it's coming through there. The CV boot is still good, but I cleaned it off and will investigate in a couple days.
I have an FD1 I can look at every day. I've never seen an FD2 up close. My dealer has never had one in stock while I've been waiting for my oil to get changed or I would have been crawling all around it. Also it seems many FD2 owners carry guns. So I'm not going to just go inspect one out there on the street.;) I never had any interest in an FD2 because they don't come with a manual transmission, consequently, I never familiarized myself with the FD2 suspension system.
So just stiffer springs. Sounds like the old days. I have 2 Scramblers, one has 4" more ground clearance than the other. All the shackles are stock, it's just that one Jeep's springs have more arch than the other. Actually in my case, the taller Jeep has softer springs with much more travel. I'm still getting used to "Jeeps" with out axles and leaf springs. It is a hard pill to swallow.:eek:
I forgot these Jeeps have CV boots. :doh: Inspecting the CV boots before winter is always a good idea. Once the salty water sand mix gets in there the joint is history! Jeep should have stayed with an actual U-joint cross and yoke system. Those last 100,000 miles easily.
heckler 10-23-2009, 10:08 AM Same thing happened to me.
Jeep replaced the entire thing under warranty.
Right side also.
Grease coming from the metal clamp area.
with the lift installed, or not?
Aus Patriot 10-23-2009, 01:26 PM Yes with it.
Have had it for about 30,000km now.
FirstJeep! 10-23-2009, 03:44 PM FYI, springs of the FDII are not just stiffer but also 3/4" longer than the FDI.
heckler 10-23-2009, 06:09 PM would you look at that...
firstjeep, please, please - make a thread on that to finally put to bed the mystery of the FDI vs FDII suspension differences.
jepstr67 10-23-2009, 06:52 PM FYI, springs of the FDII are not just stiffer but also 3/4" longer than the FDI.
boing BOING
Looks like the size of the coil material is slightly bigger 5/8" and 11/16", or similar. Which would account for stiffer.
Thanks for the photo. That explains a lot.
FirstJeep! 10-23-2009, 06:52 PM It`s done in the The great FDII Spring debate thread. FDII springs are longer,wider and stiffer than the others. It`s a direct 3/4" lift after measurement and a noticeable "stiffier" ride vs the stock springs.
FirstJeep! 10-23-2009, 07:19 PM Forget to say that I`m also a member of the RRO Lifted MK Club!
jp-ajdayt 11-01-2009, 09:46 PM Yes it's true that most FD2 owners are armed and dangerous.
RAKoon 11-04-2009, 10:03 PM Yes it's true that most FD2 owners are armed and dangerous.
Not me, I'm Dang'd and Armorous!
I would really like to lift mine, but will probably do something to my Liberty before I tear into the Patriot. Got the FDII with the CVT because my Wife will drive on occasion, but it's kinda 'my' vehicle - she has a Chevy HHR. I would have prefered a stick - if they made it.
I am thinking sliders would be a better investment and could be done first.
I'd like to know if there are any shops in MI (SE or other) that would work on Patriot's? The place in Roseville sort of sneered at me a bit when I mentioned my Patriot but then talked to me a little when I said I had a Liberty. Their prices seemed pretty high for doing work, like around $350 or $400 for the labor on a lift for a Liberty.
BTW, I really like the ride on my FDII and think it looks a little better than the other Pat's running around here that look like station wagons, but I have yet to get 'er into the woods!
GONZO_JOURNALISM 11-07-2009, 03:19 PM I bought my mom a 08 patriot last year, and am currently in the middle of lifting it with the RRO lift kit. Having the work done at 4wheel parts. The aftermarket rims that I bought for it are Dick Cepeks and have 4.5 inches backspacing. Unfortunately even with looking @ shaving out parts of the plastic wheel well there was major rubbage. So the oversized BGF all terrains are are currently barely mounted on the stock rims. hahaha looks pretty funny. I'm sure once the lift is in it'll be tight. My question is this, has anyone on this site attempted to lift a 08 patriot more than the 2.25" that the RRO kit provides ? Money and warranties are not an issue. If so, did you upgrade your differential, and to what size ? I have heard of a custom lift kit being built by chrysler and was wondering if anybody knew info about it ? I have replaced all 4 front lights with 4000 K extreme white bulbs from piaa, and was wondering if anybody has found a company that makes the blue bulbs for the patriots configuration ? Thanx fo yo time
heckler 11-07-2009, 04:44 PM LIFTEDMK08 (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26856) had spacers in his springs as well as the lift, but took them out.
what sized tires are you putting on?
GONZO_JOURNALISM 11-08-2009, 05:06 PM Tire size is BFG at 235/85R/16. There were no companies who made an all terrain tire for 17" rim sizes I was surprised to find out. Rim size is 16x8. Got a UPS e-mail last night, RRO kit should be down in Seatown on tuesday. Guess I'll see next week if it all fits together. The 16x10 rims woudn't probably fit on this vehicle even with the RRO kit and only 4" of backspacing ?
One last question to anybody out there, any experience with aftermarket airfilters on the Patriot ? K&N, masterflow, etc...HECKLER, Watched your swamp thing vid dude, you got more balls than me, I woudn't have gone into that without my big truck. lol I'll Post some pics next week when this patriot experiment hopefully works. Peace
Aus Patriot 11-08-2009, 05:29 PM Mate,
you haven't looked hard enough to find the AT'r rubber.
e.g. for you Cooper ATR's are av for the 17 inch.
I've got them and there made in the US so you should be able to find them.
srettew 11-08-2009, 08:16 PM Don't forget me! =P
Will H 11-08-2009, 09:54 PM BFG and Yokohama also have 17" all terrain rubber.
heckler 11-08-2009, 11:27 PM Good luck gonzo. You're going to have to do some serious modification to get 31.7" tires to fit. 29.5" (245/70-16) is the biggest we've seen so far.
heckler 11-09-2009, 09:01 PM A WARNING THREAD ABOUT LIFT KIT AND CV JOINTS (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?p=196805#post196805)
jp-ajdayt 11-11-2009, 11:33 PM I just got everything re-torqued as the shop suggested after 10 days. I asked them about the wobble (accelerating from a stop or accelerating around a corner).
And they test drove it and called it "launch shudder" and asked if was an AWD vehicle which I said yes to, in these circumstances. I guess I'm supposed to Google "launch shudder". And he said that the rear bushings were very loose also, and that he could easily move them around by hand.
But something seems to have gotten somewhat tightened (less wobble) due to what they did and it wasn't bad before, I guess.
I think the positive points outweigh any negative points - by that I mean that I wouldn't prefer my Patriot in the previous condition.
BloydBuckingBulls 11-12-2009, 10:44 AM I'm joining on Friday.
heckler 11-12-2009, 03:43 PM jp, I've got the launch shudder as well - vibration at low speed. I'm expecting to need to replace the front drive shafts.
jp-ajdayt 11-13-2009, 12:28 AM remember "jp" just stands for Jeep Patriot. The other letters are from my first, middle and last name and the first name is Anthony.
Everything is fine and great, I feel, the way it stands now - but I'll keep an eye on everything.
fastrockit 11-15-2009, 01:02 AM Lifted Patriot -- fastrockit
jp-ajdayt 11-23-2009, 11:07 PM Lifted Patriot -- fastrockit
Hi - so any info on your Patriot, or pictures? welcome
I'm lifted as well....well my Patriot is, anyway. I've got her partially taken apart now (working on the sound system), but i'll be adding some new pictures and details soon.
Wheezy 12-02-2009, 08:34 PM Got the lift kit sitting in my garage right now... gotta find some time to get it installed!
jp-ajdayt 02-08-2010, 12:14 AM This is a reply from Rocky Roads and they are very positive, informative and immediate on replies to questions. I haven't yet checked the wheel balance yet - and have no print out of the 4 wheel alignment performed.
"RR: Its not something we've come across before.
Usually, wobbles or shimmy are a result of alignment or tire balance. Since this hasn't come up on other Jeeps, that's the first place to start troubleshooting. Its possible a wheel weight was knocked off accidentally during installation and all the shuffling around.
Could also be the alignment. Since it is an independent suspension front and rear, you do need to have a 4 wheel alignment performed. You might want to make sure and review the alignment print-out you received to make sure that the finished specs fall without the factory alignment parameters.
You wouldn't want to start changing anything else without first making sure those 2 items are 100% good. Otherwise you might be spending money and time dealing with other much less likely components..."
www.rocky-road.com
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Rocky Road - I am having a problem with the Rocky Road lift kit for my 2008
Jeep Patriot Freedom Drive 2 which was installed by 4 Wheel Parts. I am
having a slight low speed wobble upon acceleration. When I went back to 4
Wheel Parts for the required retorqueing for the lift kit I asked them about
this. They called it launch shudder and also said that my rear bushings are
loose. I never had this wobble before having the kit installed and also
don't particularly know what the rear bushings do. Do you have any insight
on this problem (low speed acceleration only)? The wobble might be coming
from the rear of the vehicle but I'm not sure.
Should I have the dealer look at the bushings on the vehicle warranty? They
might say the lift kit caused a problem. Well any advice you could give me
is appreciated. Thank you,
jp-ajdayt 02-14-2010, 10:35 PM I finally had the wheels/tires balanced and also had the white letter tire side moved to the inside and I thought the low speed wobble was totally gone but then I still felt some wobble on low speed acceleration turns.
But they had set the tire pressures so that the right side was on the average 3 lbs less than the left side so when I equalized everything and then drove it the wobble was gone (I believe - will monitor everything).
I was surprised when they said that they will just reverse each tire on each wheel rather then switching tires to the other side (to get the black wall non letter side out)). But they said that the direction the tire spins only matters with studded tires.
So I believe we have an excellent product here but you have to be vigilant.
heckler 02-15-2010, 04:19 PM time to get my wheels balanced...
navy48 02-15-2010, 08:26 PM I'm lifted as well....well my Patriot is, anyway. I've got her partially taken apart now (working on the sound system), but i'll be adding some new pictures and details soon.
Your Pat looks AWESOME! Love the Rockstars! :smiley_thumbs_up:
BNoble 02-25-2010, 09:01 AM Add me to the list. I had the kit for a long time in the box. Now installed. I need to take it back in to get the allignment re-done. I have read about wobble on acceleration. Well, my jeep more like hunts, pulls left to right back and forth on quick acceleration. I think the allignment is off a bit. Can some one post the allignment specs?
JK-Rocket 03-13-2010, 02:35 AM Doritos is a brand name as well. But if I open a bag and find cheetos inside, well, something's gonna hit the fan... :smiley_thumbs_up:
AMEN TO THAT! :pepper::banana:
Schoat333 03-25-2010, 09:44 AM I dont think JeepJim will be on here anymore.
Who is going to keep this thread up?
prank213 03-31-2010, 06:32 AM You can add me ! Still fighting a creaking sound in the rear but gonna try and get that fixed today.
what size are your tires?
kaizer27 03-31-2010, 01:25 PM Yo! Got Stu springs installed. Tires to come in a month or two.
silver and black 03-31-2010, 06:19 PM i just got the lift a few days ago and it really makes it look way better. waiting for my new tires and wheels and i cant ****ing wait.
b_wright12 04-04-2010, 08:38 PM Just installed the lift 2 days ago with my buddies and got the wheel alignment yesterday! So stoked!
trippnk 04-06-2010, 04:02 AM Looks good man! I'm die'n to get back to the states so I can finally buy my Riot and throw some meats on it!
kdubs 04-07-2010, 10:50 PM Hey i have an 08 patriot and am looking to get it lifted and put bigger tires on it. i will probably order the RRO lift kit but are they any suggestions for bigger beefier tires? and what sizes?
prank213 04-08-2010, 03:10 AM Just installed the lift 2 days ago with my buddies and got the wheel alignment yesterday! So stoked!
it came out nice, what kind of tires are those.
b_wright12 04-08-2010, 11:31 AM it came out nice, what kind of tires are those.
LT235\70\16 BFG Mud-Terrain KM2's!
They're fantastic, I've already had quite a few people ask what kind of vehicle I have... I've heard Land Rover and Hummer so far, hahaha, the rims and tires make a huge difference!
dixiedawg 04-08-2010, 11:41 AM I like it b wright too! Very nice look.
I wonder is the folks who have lifted could maybe help with a comparison between RRO lift and the spring lift from STU?
I wanted to lift mine, but thinking I might trade it this fall, so maybe wait for the new one.
I like it b wright too! Very nice look.
I wonder is the folks who have lifted could maybe help with a comparison between RRO lift and the spring lift from STU?
I wanted to lift mine, but thinking I might trade it this fall, so maybe wait for the new one.
i currently have the rro lift and will be swapping to the spring lift in about 2 weeks time so will be able to give a direct comparison
heckler 04-08-2010, 07:00 PM Hey i have an 08 patriot and am looking to get it lifted and put bigger tires on it. i will probably order the RRO lift kit but are they any suggestions for bigger beefier tires? and what sizes?
keep looking in the forum. lots of suggestions. Check out the Knowledge Base/Suspension and Tires section
pure_riot 04-12-2010, 05:16 AM just had my pat lifted today with rro kit and put on 265 75 16's to give it a bit extra height.
dixiedawg 04-12-2010, 11:12 AM Very nice Pure!
wajidshah 04-22-2010, 02:42 AM Ok who's a member of the LIFTED MK CLUB? Suspension and Tires. ... I'm lifted as well....well my Patriot is, anyway. ...
seekinshadows 05-20-2010, 03:04 PM So, let's say someone wants to lift their Riot and knows zilch, zero, zip about lifts on a vehicle...or next to nothing about vehicles in general (well knows basics, can do their own vehicle maintanence, etc). What great resource is out there for such a person to go and learn about such things? Say a "Lift my ride for dummies".
And yes, I am expecting to find an easy source to simply summarize what it has taken you guys YEARS to learn about lifting a vehicle. I'm an leech like that. :p
Suggestions from those in 'the know' are better than a google search IMO.
prank213 06-03-2010, 01:05 AM http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs540.snc3/30618_118767748165515_100000968727031_96948_806274 7_s.jpg
fatnfurious 06-03-2010, 01:45 PM Great to see another lift Riot, and thanks for serving.
cobretty 06-03-2010, 08:38 PM Almost forgot I can finally post in this thread - Running STU's coils and very happy indeed. I'll be even happier on Saturday as I will be going to the States tomorrow to pickup my new wheels and tires and then fitted on Saturday.
Thank God for US pricing :D
kojack 07-05-2010, 08:20 AM cobretty,
how much were your stu's? im in newfoundland so it would be round the same price for me.
xixundyingxix 07-07-2010, 08:04 PM What do i need to buy to lift my Patriot and where can i buy it?
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