I am almost there with getting my North FWD.
My dealer has tried selling my Nitrogen pack for the tires.
Includes some scheme in fixing any flats and stuff.

Now from what I can tell the actual fill of Nitrogen in the tires isn't that expensive. Anywhere around $60.

Has anyone had this offer from a Jeep dealer in Canada, or the US?
Just curious on what they may be.
I was quoted $350 for the service which includes some sort of insurance on the tires and seems really steep. Really very steep.....

Thanks for sharing any info on this,
Cellio
The happy almost Patriot owner.

Our dealer (in Lethbridge, Alberta) threw nitrogen tires/repairs in during the negotiation process.

Lucky there are not helium packs out there! (flying pat!!):)
No, serioulsy...I've never heard of Nitrogen packs. What's the difference vs. 'normal air'?

Nitrogen does not respond to temperature changes and keeps the pressure at the desired setting. Air being 21% oxygene will fluctuate depending on temperature and play with ur tire pressure. Hope this is clear enouhg!!!LOL...if not i'll be more thorough. Personnaly I have air and check it every so often.

Nitrogen in tires is pretty much pointless. Few people realise that the air we breathe is 75-78% nitrogen. The stuff they sell you for your tires is only about 90-95% pure or less depending on how unscrupulous your dealer is.

It's silly and pointless if you ask me. Yeah, you'll see the racing fans swear by it because they use it in NASCAR and the NHRA drags, but you have to remember the racers are pushing the envelope and will do some pretty trivial things just to shave off .001 of a second from a lap or 1/4 mile. Even then, it's hard to prove that it was actually the notrogen that gave them the boost.

You are far better off just watching your inflation closely and checking it often. I am still amazed that even tire retailers still use the 32-35psi rule with tires. Most tires today are rated for 40-42psi. That can make a big difference in mpg. I think they still use 32psi thinking that a softer, under-inflated tire will give a better ride.

Check your tire pressure and fill then to the rating on the tire.

While I agree that Nitrogen probably won't make that much difference, I'd say go for it, 'cause that will make you feel that you've done all you can for your tires!

Regarding under-inflation, if you (that's: all y'all...) remember, Ford paid a lot of money settling law suits on Explorer roll-overs because of tire failure. (Probably due to over-loading, too...) but the consensus came back that dealers were advising the "non-off-road" group to use less PSI to smooth/soften their ride.

After seeing some of the discussion here about temperature extremes and it's resultant effect on tires losing air...this kind of solves a personal mystery. We moved to the CA San Joaquin Valley about 4 years ago from the Monterey Bay area--very coastal with normal highs in the summer of 55-60. Indian summer saw a few days in the 80s (with matching humidity..) and on occasion down to the mid 20s (I'm speaking F here...) Now in the Valley, we get into the 20s--you can tell because the citrus growers turn on their wind machines and it sounds like a squadron of B17s warming up on an English airfield for a bombing raid on Germany--and of course highs well over 100 for most of the summer. I've noticed that I have to add air more frequently to keep my tire pressure proper than I ever did for the 40+ years I lived on the coast. Thanks for this insight!

We used Nitrogen in airplane tires, mainly because we had it available--using it on the oleos (air over oil shock absorber) on the landing gear, and because we needed high pressure--some a/c struts need in excess of 150 psi--we had a 2,000 psi tank with regulator on wheels and it was more convenient than pulling out the air compressor and turning it on, etc.

Something they don't tell you about under-inflation--and, I can't remember the last time I had a tire, radial or bias, that wore out the center! Airplace tires are inflated until the outer tread is off the ground--might take 25 psi, might take 40 or more, and, our tires wore more evenly using this inflation technique. Of course, many airplane tires are re-caps, so that would have a greater variance in the construction/flexibility of the tire.

(I think my two cent's worth turned into at least a nickel here!)

Unless you are flying at 35,000 feet, nitrogen in the tires is not really needed. There are some helicopters that don't even use nitrogen, so I know a jeep doesn't need it.

I have nitrogen in my tires now. Suppose one of the tires does run low. Can I just add regular air? I don't want to have to run to the dealer every time the TPM light comes on. Any chemists out there able to help? THanks.

From what I have heard that when you have the nitrogen in your tires it doesn't leak out like reg. air! So it shouldn't turn your TMP on when it gets cold! The chevy dealer here in town charges $5 a tire that includes if you need more if you get a flat.

Has anyone had this offer from a Jeep dealer in Canada, or the US?
Just curious on what they may be.
I was quoted $350 for the service which includes some sort of insurance on the tires and seems really steep. Really very steep.....

I wish my dealer would have chucked this in for free... I did try!
So does anyone have an idea of what this would cost?
I keep thinking that 3fiddy is a lot for what it is.
My thought is not to take this and just do what I do and keep checking my tires every time I fill up.

And the question about topping them up is a good question.
So if I am out in the middle of nowhere and find a gas station they are unlikely to have the nitrogen set up to fill my tires.
I would think that filling them with regular air would do no harm until I get back to civilization.

We live in British Columbia and are sure to get out in the bush at times.

thanks
Cellio
Just waiting for my dealer to call- soooo close now :smiley_thumbs_up:

Folks, here's the skinny for the tradional DIYers out there:

Go to your local welding gas supplier, ask about a small tank & regulator of Nitrogen. I don't know today's cost, but what I used 10 years ago, was a tank that is 3-1/2 feet high, about 8-10" in diameter. You can either buy the tank or lease it (they do have to be pressure tested every so often based upon your states/fed. laws) and either buy or lease the regulator. At that time, the total cost was less than $100 USD and I used it for nearly 10 years and handed it off to another flyer when I left the area. Mine had a small handcart attached, so it was easy to move around, and I believe the hose was about 8' long.

If someone decides to go that route, please post today's expenses. The cost is based upon the size of the tank, or at least it was back then.