TOOLS REQUIRED;

http://lh4.google.com/hvac59/R6TXVhCtoMI/AAAAAAAAAzA/zTfvLqEKI_s/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20049.jpg 15/16"/ 2-18mm's/ 17mm/ 15mm wrenchs , 18mm & 13/16" sockets , flex head and regular ratchet and alignment pins/bars.

http://lh5.google.com/hvac59/R6TWhxCtoGI/AAAAAAAAAyQ/2aeP4BsQwnA/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20042.jpg High quality grease or anti-sieze, this is synthetic that I've used for years.

http://lh4.google.com/hvac59/R6TQGhCtnnI/AAAAAAAAAuU/n4zxfCbBoxI/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20015.jpg Thread locking compound, I prefer Loctite 271............

http://lh5.google.com/hvac59/R6TLQxCtnVI/AAAAAAAAArs/0OlPqge2lWg/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20001.jpg A pair of floor jacks and a jackstand, 4x4 chocks and don't foget the wheel blocks to prevent roll-off!

http://lh6.google.com/hvac59/R6W0RxCtoZI/AAAAAAAAA2o/0-TgduGANSM/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT.jpg 13mm & 15mm sockets , good gloves , real prybar , small soft hammer extension and 3/8'" ratchet.

http://lh6.google.com/hvac59/R6TPWBCtnkI/AAAAAAAAAt8/-M1ZOSHbVug/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20014.jpg Inventory parts again....

http://lh5.google.com/hvac59/R6TL-xCtnYI/AAAAAAAAAsE/SEn7yk0TwA0/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20005.jpg Position a jack under the control arm, I use a old spring isolater as a grip/non marr attachment.

FRONT INSTALL;

http://lh6.google.com/hvac59/R6TLfBCtnWI/AAAAAAAAAr0/Ay5JLoOiFs4/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20002.jpg Break lower strut bolts loose and unseat them as they are press fit at the shoulder. Remove the lower 13mm brake line bolt on the strut case and the 15mm sway bar link nut. Use the small floor jack to release tension on the sway bar to enable the link to seperate.

http://lh5.google.com/hvac59/R6TLrxCtnXI/AAAAAAAAAr8/63t-mD6dy2E/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20003.jpg Upper fasteners also, remember that it is supported from below............

http://lh3.google.com/hvac59/R6TMtRCtnbI/AAAAAAAAAsc/JCX5Q0AJ0Cw/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20006.jpg Release tension on jack and press down on the rotor while checking that everything is clear and not snagging on the brake lines. Use your foot for the rotor while watching from up top.

http://lh6.google.com/hvac59/R6TNVBCtndI/AAAAAAAAAss/SprWMQTE5q8/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20007.jpg When everything is nice and free, work the lower strut flange off of the steering knuckle while supporting its weight. About 20 lbs. Ease the assembly out towards the rear of the Jeep from the bottom first then let the top of the strut follow. Up on the bench it goes.............................

http://lh3.google.com/hvac59/R6TQURCtnoI/AAAAAAAAAuc/i1lrXmTrB7s/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20017.jpg Bolt up the spacer with the nuts that RR suplied. Use Locktite...... Notice how the prybar is jammed into the space between another nut and the spacer. The other end of the prybar is on my shoulder.

http://lh5.google.com/hvac59/R6TQcxCtnpI/AAAAAAAAAuk/XbsDPk1NX4Q/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20018.jpg Reposition the strut on the knuckle down below and check to see if the upper studs line up with the holes. If not, just drop it down and twist the top, it moves with some force.Once aligned, use the jack to lift it in place.

http://lh6.google.com/hvac59/R6TRcBCtntI/AAAAAAAAAvE/iIIbOSz3t9A/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20019.jpg Time to torque everything down and check it all again. Notice that the adjustable camber bolt is in the top hole on the knuckle. Brake line is refastened and upper nuts have been torqued. The sway bar link extensions go in as shown. Double check everything...........

REAR INSTALL;

http://lh3.google.com/hvac59/R6TR2RCtnvI/AAAAAAAAAvU/LomrH9kd1JY/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20021.jpg Locate upper fasteners and remove them.

http://lh6.google.com/hvac59/R6TSCBCtnwI/AAAAAAAAAvc/aC5A9DWKU1s/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20022.jpg Sway bar link next, just the nut.

http://lh3.google.com/hvac59/R6TSeRCtnyI/AAAAAAAAAvs/acefg9gD-lc/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20023.jpg Lower shock nut too.

http://lh4.google.com/hvac59/R6TSrhCtnzI/AAAAAAAAAv0/DSQ29IqRIk0/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20024.jpg Lower knuckle nut.

http://lh4.google.com/hvac59/R6TS6hCtn0I/AAAAAAAAAv8/UF-k_zjxLEI/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20025.jpg Outer radius arm nut.

http://lh4.google.com/hvac59/R6TT8hCtn4I/AAAAAAAAAwc/49d9xm-3D0A/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20026.jpg Inner radius arm bolt until it is nice and loose, but don't take it out yet.

http://lh5.google.com/hvac59/R6TUIxCtn5I/AAAAAAAAAwk/W_X-9vWLnp8/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20027.jpg Now use a jack to support the lower arm by placing a spacer(socket) on the lower eye of the shock. Lift it up slowly and all the tension will be released from the fasteners that were just loosened. Go ahead and remove the all now.

http://lh5.google.com/hvac59/R6TUXxCtn6I/AAAAAAAAAws/OwIpwooj_CQ/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20029.jpg As shown, the lower arm can be pushed out of the way after the jack is removed. The coilover shock assembly will pratically fall out in your arms.

http://lh3.google.com/hvac59/R6TUvRCtn8I/AAAAAAAAAw8/eLW8bl7Q1dQ/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20032.jpg Adjust new radius arms to required spec's(about 1/8" shorter than stock).

http://lh3.google.com/hvac59/R6TU6RCtn9I/AAAAAAAAAxE/18IHMV5fpcA/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20033.jpg Bolt spacers on top and note that nuts will not clear if they are not all put on at the same time. Be sure to use prybar and torque them now as there is not enough room when installed!

http://lh6.google.com/hvac59/R6TVEBCtn-I/AAAAAAAAAxM/IGmqFvrBb6U/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20034.jpg Pry bar location.......to allow torquing the opposite side.

http://lh3.google.com/hvac59/R6TVeRCtoAI/AAAAAAAAAxg/cgrl8A3aLJI/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20036.jpg Ready to re-install.

http://lh5.google.com/hvac59/R6TVoxCtoBI/AAAAAAAAAxo/yZZ6fCvZ_jo/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20037.jpg Assemble lower shock connection first.

http://lh5.google.com/hvac59/R6TVzxCtoCI/AAAAAAAAAxw/iA0HqUyrTME/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20038.jpg Wrench bolt in and leave nut off.

http://lh4.google.com/hvac59/R6TWAhCtoDI/AAAAAAAAAx4/MifH9XVGgeU/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20039.jpg Use alignment pins to do the work for you. The lower knuckle bolt is second.

http://lh4.google.com/hvac59/R6TWLhCtoEI/AAAAAAAAAyA/ypW9Xcd1TdI/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20040.jpg A pin in the very bottom gaps will help get the bolt thru on it's own thread power. Remember, no hammers allowed for re-assembly!

http://lh6.google.com/hvac59/R6TWWBCtoFI/AAAAAAAAAyI/mUzTOGcdMcY/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20041.jpg Use ratchet head to slightly spread the radius arm flanges.

http://lh3.google.com/hvac59/R6TWvRCtoHI/AAAAAAAAAyY/SN0YqlexVzM/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20043.jpg Drop in radius arm and finger tighten inner bolt.

http://lh4.google.com/hvac59/R6TW6hCtoII/AAAAAAAAAyg/rlnM0ms3XUM/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20045.jpg Thread in outer radius arm bolt.

http://lh4.google.com/hvac59/R6TXAhCtoJI/AAAAAAAAAyo/M4GCdvxgN6w/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20046.jpg Now begin retorquing. Starting with the inner radius arm first due to access when everything else is assembled.

http://lh4.google.com/hvac59/R6TXFhCtoKI/AAAAAAAAAyw/eHic3HPcm5I/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20047.jpg If all your nuts were kept in one place, you won't have to move or get up to torque the rest.

http://lh4.google.com/hvac59/R6TXMhCtoLI/AAAAAAAAAy4/qjyf7HR3idA/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20048.jpg Do the outer radius arm and the sway bar next to last.

http://lh3.google.com/hvac59/R6TXfRCtoNI/AAAAAAAAAzI/YY3GfEn2x3Y/s288/08%20MK%20LIFT%20050.jpg Because this is last. It is nice to aquire habits to not allow mistakes of leaving fasteners loose or off. Now go back and check every thing again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

---------------------BEFORE-------------------------

http://lh3.google.com/hvac59/R5JVCW8HUYI/AAAAAAAAAhc/txIca_BbmtA/08%20MK%20005.jpg?imgmax=512


--------------------AFTER---------------------------


http://lh4.google.com/hvac59/R6TY6hCtoTI/AAAAAAAAAz4/VDjorDu2i_U/08%20MK%20LIFT%20053.jpg?imgmax=512

If anyone has any comments, corrections or questions please let me know. I'll do my best to answer them.
hvac59

Did it by myself, it took about three hours including the pic's.

Well,
I decided to take a chance and stop at the dealer today! They had a few cancelations and took my Jeep in for an alignment. Glad it's on my way to work. The parts dept. guy's had to come out and take a look and brought two tech's out to. This is the first Patriot they have seen lifted. Anyway, here is the results and the ride quality is back to stock......................One minor complaint is that the steering wheel is ever so slightly "OFF" to right. I might try to ceter it myself and do a write-up on just that. Also, the tech report states that the "PINION FACTOR" was adjusted to 3%(as close as it can be with these tires),,,,,but on the way home my GPS is still reading about 10% faster than the speedo':confused:. I'll have to get it rechecked:(.

Note the right(pass) rear is good,but not exactly in spec. The tech said that that is all the adjustment that can be made.

hvac59

http://lh6.google.com/hvac59/R6gjPBCtobI/AAAAAAAAA3w/8jZehSfoPHM/scan0001.jpg?imgmax=512

two thumbs up for ur skills !:smiley_thumbs_up:

can u help me decide how can i gain in 08 patriot sport without installing lift kit for conceptual experiment.

i ran quick numbers on miata.net's tire calculator,,,

if i go from 205.70.16 to 225.70.16, it increases the diamter from 27.3 inches to 28.4 inches, giving me approx. 0.5 inches additional clearance.

and if i go to 235.70.16 it will give me 0.9 inche or approx 1 inche additional clerance to total 9 inche clearance.

i can get same results from 205.80.16.

now questiona is can i fit 235.70.16 or 205.80.16 in patriot sport without any damage ?

nice!

quick Q. how much did the dealer charge for the alignment?

Nice job I like it alot, been thinking about it myself.
what kit did you get and where did you get it?
also how much $$?
what is it about 2in?

jfultz - do a seach for Rocky Road or RR. Lot's of info here already

To all,
It is all Rocky Road euipment. The dealer charged me for a 1.5 hour job(flat rate), which equals $90 here! To get lift without the RR pieces, one could use up to an approx. 5/8" spacer on top of the assemblies. This will still use the factory studs. The cost & time to fab them would be in excess of the RR package value(IMO), although just looking for an additional 1" of height it would be doable.
hvac59

Does this void the bumper to bumper warranty in any way?

awesome nice job.

This modification can invalid my Jeep Patriot Lifetime Warranty??? Please let me know, I want to Grow up my PATRIOT.

P.D. I also need to know the size of your Wheels and Tires they look great

This modification can invalid my Jeep Patriot Lifetime Warranty??? Please let me know, I want to Grow up my PATRIOT.

P.D. I also need to know the size of your Wheels and Tires they look great

I too am looking into getting the lift kit. I e-mailed Jeep.com and this is the reply I got back...

"Thank you for contacting the Chrysler Customer Assistance Center
regarding the warranty information.

We appreciate the time and effort you took to write to us.

In response to your email regarding the warranty information, we suggest
that you give your local dealer the opportunity to assist you with your
concern. Their service personnel have the factory training, equipment
and information available to assist you further.

If the dealer has been unable to determine or resolve your concerns, you
can seek a second opinion from another authorized dealership.

You can also locate a dealer on the "Find a Dealer" area in the Jeep
website.

Mentioned below are the names and addresses of the five star dealers in
your vicinity:..."

Then it went on to list me some dealers in my area. I will be seeing my dealership soon and will try to get a real response back shortly.

--Update-- So the dealership said they couldnt see it changing the powertrain warranty but it might affect any parts that were changed or modified. So if I modify a part and it breaks it wouldnt be covered... can't have everything.

I spoke to my local dealer about the RR lift kit. They said they will cover my warranty as long as it doesn't damage any parts of the vehicle (which is doesn't, uses stock suspension parts) the service manager even recommended a shop where they send other people who have bought jeeps for lift kits.

hvac,

thanks again for the awesome install writeup! I just got the rocky road instructions, and yours are, er, much more comprehensive!

--Update-- So the dealership said they couldnt see it changing the powertrain warranty but it might affect any parts that were changed or modified. So if I modify a part and it breaks it wouldnt be covered... can't have everything.

Thats how it should work,
but you are at the mercy of the dealer,
some are stricter than others,

I couldnt get a faulty head gasket covered on my neon because i had aftermarket struts,
that was at 55K miles with a 100K mile warranty,
dealer stated they wouldnt cover any car that has been modified,
2 other dealers tried to negotiate, wanting to charge me $400-$500 for a $700-$800 job,
finally a fourth dealer covered it charging me the $80 diagnostic fee.

---------------------BEFORE-------------------------

http://lh3.google.com/hvac59/R5JVCW8HUYI/AAAAAAAAAhc/txIca_BbmtA/08%20MK%20005.jpg?imgmax=512


--------------------AFTER---------------------------


http://lh4.google.com/hvac59/R6TY6hCtoTI/AAAAAAAAAz4/VDjorDu2i_U/08%20MK%20LIFT%20053.jpg?imgmax=512

If anyone has any comments, corrections or questions please let me know. I'll do my best to answer them.
hvac59

Nice to see THREE white Jeeps :smiley_thumbs_up:

Thanks.........................................

HVAC, did you mention wheels and tires sizes? Please do if I missed it.
Nice results from your effort....kudos.
Those of us who don't have the tools and the skills that go with them are drooling!!:D
I put some gas shocks and struts all around on my '89 Cherokee way back when and managed over 1" of lift and a much improved ride along with taller rubbers.
Of course, here in FLA my wife won't be digging out from any big dumps, so I think just taller/wider booties when her 215/65/17 SRAs are done. Maybe a 235/65/17.

It took me 4 hours on Wednesday night to install the right rear by myself, and 3-1/2 hours to do the other three wheels with a buddy last night. Did it all in the parking lot at work with a floor jack, two jack stands and the Jeeps spare tire jack. With the technique learned from the right rear, I was able to install the left rear on my own in an hour and a half before my buddy showed up to do the fronts with me.

A couple things I learned:

1. on the rear, make sure you disconnect the sway bar on both sides.:mad:
2. on the rear, make sure you have alignment bars (pointed, tapered metal bars to slide through to line up bolt holes)
3. on the rear, install the two bolts that hold the wheel knuckle to the upper and lower control arms first, then install the shock bolt by lifting on the wheel knuckle with a small jack.
4. on the front, take extra beer, because it's really easy compared to the rears.
5. be patient when waiting for RRO to ship the whole kit. They shipped mine in two parcels, two weeks apart. That was painful.




Trying to keep this thread related to installing the lift, not what size tires, etc...

Relative to voiding the factory warranty, I wonder if most dealerships would even notice. So maybe a short tech hits his butt sliding into the seat, do you think they would put 2 and 2 together? The kit looks very factory if you ask me. My guess is they won't notice it. But, if they do notice it they will prolly think it is due to larger tires.
It really isn't a drive-train mod in any way. All my suspension mods dating all the way back to '76 have not once voided my warranty. Wheel offsets do, lifts that aren't camber corrected will void tire warranties, this has been my experience with my Ramcharger. Most of my Jeeps have just had better gas struts/shocks added for max. factory unmodified lifts. Oh, I have never had a wheel mount issue from any of these changes, and I'm talking over a half million miles on Jeeps, or any tire wear issues for that matter. Over-sized tires will cause issues as well.
Scheduled for Friday. TOO KEWL!!!

Congratulations on good work!

Just curious, now with lifted Patriot, is the ride less stable? How does it go through bends?

hogar, there really isn't much difference with the way the ride feels.

Nice craft...
You gave that patriot a pretty nice lift...
In three hours... :smiley_thumbs_up:

Can I trust a 4x4 shop to install the RR kit? I guess they are the best to do so? Or is it a job any suspension/tire shop could handle easily?

Does car dealers service shop has better equipement to realign the Jeep 4 wheels afterward?

Thanx guys

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?p=144813#post144813

here's a good thread clarifying the sway bar mount bracket location.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=516202

and another really detailed thread on another forum about installation.

Very nice! I think that it really did make a difference.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9227/rropatriotti1.gif

now that's the best before/after shot I've seen to date!

this is the 2nd best thread..thank you for the pictures.it makes me want to do it..how many inches are those tires or what are the tire measurements?by the way nice moab wheels

Hi am new to you,
Please excuse my English is not perfect, because I'm from germany.
Great guide, I have Standard tires should be in accordance with the installation of a wheel alignment by RR?

Greetings from Germany

sag es nochmal in Deutsch offi?

Hallo,
hier in deutsch.
Gute Anleitung, ich habe Serienbereifung auf meinem Patriot.
Muss man nach dem Einbau von Rocky Road lift kit 2 1/8 Zoll eine Achsvermessung durchführen.

Gruß offi

yes, after you install the RRO lift, a wheel alignment is necessary. The RRO lift replaces parts of the suspension that hold the alignment.

(ich lese besser als ich spreche)

Nice to see THREE white Jeeps :smiley_thumbs_up:

what kind of tires are those..and what are the size of the..all terrain or all weather...

2nd time to the site, and finally registered and found this thread. Excellent write up. looking to get a RR kit myself and am also wondering if any off road shop or reliable mechanic can install this for me and what i should expect to pay. Located in the NVAN region. Cheers.

I installed it myself in the driveway (using my works tools) in 8 hours and got it aligned for $200 at a local garage in south van.

petbug had his lift installed by North Shore Offroad (http://nsor.com/). They're probably best to install another around here. I think he posted what it cost him if you do a search.

I know someone else planning a lift - maybe you two can get a two for one deal from NSOR or RRO. ;) PM shirk


Rocky Road Outfitters (http://www.rocky-road.com/patriotsus.html) is the only lift available.

If you want to check out my Jeep, I can meet you somewhere in NV some evening.

... and got it aligned for $200 at a local garage in south van.

Ouch really? I saw at the Jeep dealership there was a chart on the wall with pricing for common services and I thought I saw alignment for $80, maybe I'm wrong though.

My lift is on its way!

it was a family run shop, and hates working on lifted suspension, but I hate going to dealerships. At least he stuck to his quote. He had to do the alignment twice because it wasn't right the first time.

make sure to check your alignment tech tightens all the adjustment nuts/bolts! Check again a day and a week after your alignment! i can't stress that enough.

Good job!
What is the size of those tires?
Are those rims from the wrangler?
I want to go with 225/65/R18. Do I need to do any modification?

thanks,

alex, try posting in the suspension and tires forum. This is a RR lift writeup thread. Thanks!

hvac i love reading through your threads/looking at your pics on DIY...everything you've done i'd like to do as well (eventually) and it's always helpful to know what to expect!

it's also nice to see someone as mechanically inclined as yourself who knows what is going on under the hood haha

RE: RRO clunk in the rear resolved

i was doing some routine stuff around the rear end yesterday and ive discovered what causes the clunk in the back, what is happening is the coil springs can be very close to the upper arm that is installed, so when you extend etc it can snag on the arm ever so slightly, the fix is simple, just rotate the spring on the shocker, as the spring is offset wound it doesnt matter where it sits, now there is heaps of clearance...simple fix;)
sorry no pics, but when you pull the wheel off its obvious if you have the problem

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20536

good to know!

A warning on lift kit installation and transmission warrantee work. (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30546)

Relative to voiding the factory warranty, I wonder if most dealerships would even notice. So maybe a short tech hits his butt sliding into the seat, do you think they would put 2 and 2 together? The kit looks very factory if you ask me. My guess is they won't notice it. But, if they do notice it they will prolly think it is due to larger tires.
It really isn't a drive-train mod in any way. All my suspension mods dating all the way back to '76 have not once voided my warranty. Wheel offsets do, lifts that aren't camber corrected will void tire warranties, this has been my experience with my Ramcharger. Most of my Jeeps have just had better gas struts/shocks added for max. factory unmodified lifts. Oh, I have never had a wheel mount issue from any of these changes, and I'm talking over a half million miles on Jeeps, or any tire wear issues for that matter. Over-sized tires will cause issues as well.
Scheduled for Friday. TOO KEWL!!!

actually, that depends. if you do it yourself, they might not notice. but if you get it done at a shop, then they might, as soon as they scan your vin number, the entire history of the car will come up and they will see what modification you made.

now, if you install it, and then have a shop do the alignment only, i dont know. i dont know what the car history would say: "wheel alignment" od "wheel alignment due to lift kit"...

the best thing to do, if you want to keep your warranty and be 100% is to have the dealer do all the work. (i know, thats expensive)

Hi guys, i spoke to my dealer who i bought my car from, he recommended the rro lift kit as he states it is listed in the jeep magazine as recognised by jeep.
He also stated this will NOT IN ANYWAY void my warranty as it does not change or replace the suspension unit, (shocks or springs) by opening the unit up. Once you open the unit and start pulling bits and pieces apart, then warranty is void. This does not void warranty, it only adds to the car. Also insurance has stated the exact same thing as it is not listed as a "modification" as there is no changing of parts so my premiums stay the same and im covered.
I can try get a written confirmation from my dealer and have it scanned and uploaded on here if you all like.. ill do my best and hope he puts it in writing. (This is the boss/owner of jeep chrysler dodge in SYDNEY Australia).

Thanks for the Awesome write up. i will be getting mine shortly hopefully.. just awaiting its postage as i have paid but have had no reply to any emails from rro..

Hi guys, i spoke to my dealer who i bought my car from, he recommended the rro lift kit as he states it is listed in the jeep magazine as recognised by jeep.
He also stated this will NOT IN ANYWAY void my warranty as it does not change or replace the suspension unit, (shocks or springs) by opening the unit up. Once you open the unit and start pulling bits and pieces apart, then warranty is void. This does not void warranty, it only adds to the car. Also insurance has stated the exact same thing as it is not listed as a "modification" as there is no changing of parts so my premiums stay the same and im covered.
I can try get a written confirmation from my dealer and have it scanned and uploaded on here if you all like.. ill do my best and hope he puts it in writing. (This is the boss/owner of jeep chrysler dodge in SYDNEY Australia).

Thanks for the Awesome write up. i will be getting mine shortly hopefully.. just awaiting its postage as i have paid but have had no reply to any emails from rro..

if you can get a written confirmation, that would be great. They wont be able screw you over if you have a warranty problem in the future. So go get it and have them sign it and date it. (signed with real ink, not a photocopy of a signature done in a computer)

But it wont do anyone in here any good if you post it. it all depends on the dealerships policy. (unless they live near that dealership)

It would be very cool to see a comparison between this rro lift kit and the Pro lift kit. What changes, what doesn't, and how much lift, etc.

Just joined today and wated to say thanks for the pictures it's exactly what i was looking for! going to check finances and try to get one my own, i will show the before and after pics too.

Thanks again,

p.s. nice looking jeep too haha

who makes the pro lift kit, procomp or?

RRO = Rocky Road Outfitters

http://www.rocky-road.com/patriotsus.html

Any thoughts on torquing the rear upper control arm and rear low shock bolt at ride height? Everything I've ever read says that rubber bushings should be torqued at ride height. Rubber bushings are bonded to the metal sleeve the bolt runs through and the sleeve puts a rotational twist on the bushing during suspension cycling. If it is not torqued at ride height the bushing has no twist at full suspension droop. When you put the vehicle at ride the busing will have twist.