: The Patriots are coming......The Patriots are coming
Jdemonto 01-17-2007, 09:26 PM The Dcx's boys are coming to town and we are hosting the event!!!! All thier trucks (20 patriots) and gear will be in friday. They will be testing for a week..followed by the worldwide press event at four peaks trail!!!
Stay tuned!!!!
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dacamman 01-17-2007, 10:39 PM Great! Can't wait to see one in person!!
Sergio 01-17-2007, 10:44 PM Man, they look short
Jdemonto 01-17-2007, 10:53 PM Just a bit longer than the compass!!!! More Jeep though....
Jason
Goldston 01-17-2007, 11:03 PM Man, they look short
It looks as if that guy could pick it up and throw it. I can't stand looking at pictures anymore.
BigDuke6 01-17-2007, 11:07 PM COOL! What day will the press embargo be lifted and the reports and pics released to the public?
dunes_ny 01-17-2007, 11:46 PM I don't mind the low height. The liberty is way too high. Low roof equals less wind resistance and it's easier to put a kayak up top, not too mention washing/waxing.
The only thing I don't like is the wheels. P215 is too small for this vehicle, should have been P225 or P235. I'd like to lift one 2 inches and throw some P235's on there.
pdxbubba 01-18-2007, 09:50 AM I don't mind the low height. The liberty is way too high. Low roof equals less wind resistance and it's easier to put a kayak up top, not too mention washing/waxing.
The only thing I don't like is the wheels. P215 is too small for this vehicle, should have been P225 or P235. I'd like to lift one 2 inches and throw some P235's on there.
I was just about to write pretty much the same posting... word for word. I think that shorter combined with 9" ground clearance means it is more stable on the side hills due to the lower center of gravity.
The wheels definately need to be upgraded... the rims are ok but there needs to be more meat under there with a more agressive tread. Not too much... just a little more though.
All in all,,, it looks great!
Thanks for posting them.
RockLAX 01-18-2007, 10:04 AM I personally find those rims hideous, I like the sports much much better.
I can't wait to see one in person and see if the waiting has been worth it.
I also hope that the guy in the 4th pic is like 7 feet tall.
tommcg 01-18-2007, 10:14 AM that is a sport model ... but the wheels are the aluminum's ... the only other wheels offered are the styled steel. i'm really surprised & disappointed that they're only offering alloys in that dark gray. i guess i can look for compass sport wheels on ebay (appear to be the same but not painted dark gray) and switch ... or wait a year until they realize their mistake ...
grhopp 01-18-2007, 01:18 PM Actually, if you look at the first picture, you'll see the guy in the 4th pic is pretty tall! :o
pdxbubba 01-18-2007, 01:27 PM I personally find those rims hideous, I like the sports much much better.
I can't wait to see one in person and see if the waiting has been worth it.
I also hope that the guy in the 4th pic is like 7 feet tall.
I am not going to sweat their looks since they will be covered with mud most of the time anyways...
It looks like it is about the same height as the little truck next to it... what is that an old S-10?!?!?
Goldston 01-18-2007, 01:54 PM I personally find those rims hideous, I like the sports much much better.
I'm completely opposite. I like the darker duller look especially in Jeep green.
Jdemonto 01-18-2007, 04:08 PM He's tall!!!!!! 6'-4 thats why the patriot looks so small!!!
Jason
Anyone who is local and want to look, I should have them here on display friday.
BigDuke6 01-18-2007, 05:15 PM Jason, do you have any pics of the Patriot next to another vehicle for comparison?
Sparrow 01-18-2007, 05:21 PM If you go to JEEP.com you will see that the height of a patriot is 64" including the roof rail , making the roof around 5 foot high . A 2-3" lift with bigger tires might put the roof to eye level to a 6 foot man . Sorry for the disappointment.
HighDesert 01-18-2007, 06:25 PM Thanks for posting the pics, jdemonto. Please keep us informed of your driving impressions, particularly the 5spd vs. CVT.
Jdemonto 01-18-2007, 07:06 PM Jason, do you have any pics of the Patriot next to another vehicle for comparison?
The pics were taken next to a ford ranger pickup with camper shell...look very closely!!!
5speed vs cvt2????? I can drive a compass and give details, the fdII only avail with auto trans, We are looking to hang out with the DCX guys on the press event, my buddy in service will make this possible!!! Expect an impression from me with a full write and photos!!!
Jason
The wheels are very similar to the old Cherokee Classic wheels. I don't think that was on accident. ;)
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demolaysgirl 01-18-2007, 08:41 PM Jason, do you have any pics of the Patriot next to another vehicle for comparison?
I snapped a couple of cell phone pics of a Compass next to a Cherokee today. I thought of you guys when I did. :D Give me a bit and I'll see if I can figure out how to get the pics off my phone and onto the computer.
BigDuke6 01-18-2007, 09:22 PM I too was hoping that Jason could get a pic of the Patriot next to the Compass. And, the original Cherokees are not all the big either.
demolaysgirl 01-18-2007, 09:53 PM Ok...let's see how well this worked.
Sorry for the quality...they're cell phone pics, after all. And had I been there to coordinate the parking of these two vehicles, they would have lined up much better. :) I didn't take any front or back pics in order to protect license plate info.
Here are pics I took today when I saw a Compass parked next to a Cherokee.
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BigDuke6 01-19-2007, 07:20 PM So Jason, are they all sitting there at Airpark waiting for the press gig next week??
Jdemonto 01-19-2007, 10:41 PM They just got in around 6PM and it was too dark for photos, I will try in the AM if they unloaded them.
Jason
Goldston 01-19-2007, 10:47 PM They just got in around 6PM and it was too dark for photos, I will try in the AM if they unloaded them.
Jason
Is there a special date to launch?
Jdemonto 01-20-2007, 10:52 AM Found out they will be testing these at fourpeaks all week!!!!
Jason
Compass
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Like I said before if anyone wants to see one send me a PM,thanks
RockLAX 01-20-2007, 11:02 AM That silver looks really good! I am also interested in the khaki.
I can't wait.
dacamman 01-20-2007, 11:33 AM All sport 4x4 models???
unclejjg 01-20-2007, 11:34 AM I've got to be honest...I like the blue. As far as the shortness of the vehicle goes.....a) your still sitting higher than any car, b) some of us will be adding 2 - 4 inches as soon as possible, c) my Blazer isn't exactly the Empire State Building either.
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silvermike 01-20-2007, 03:53 PM Thank you Jason!
Sergio 01-20-2007, 04:09 PM ok i am sorry WTF is COG?
grutza 01-20-2007, 04:12 PM center of gravity
Sergio 01-20-2007, 04:19 PM thank you...
hey Jason, when you get it do you feel like you step down into it..or get up into it?
BigDuke6 01-20-2007, 08:19 PM Jason, thanks!!! How many of those are sporting the Trail Rated badge?
Jdemonto 01-20-2007, 11:00 PM thank you...
hey Jason, when you get it do you feel like you step down into it..or get up into it?
Niether..Just slide right in!!!!!!!
Jason, thanks!!! How many of those are sporting the Trail Rated badge?
Well, they have been driving in/out all day..there should be 22 total. Some are the base 4x4 and some are missing trail rated badges even though they are FDII????? They have been scanning them and reflashing all day, swapping tires and other basic maintence!!! I will keep everyone up to date...
Jason
DenverDude2002 01-20-2007, 11:11 PM Could you by any chance try to get a photo of where the engage stwich/lever is for FD2? also, have is the visibility out the rear looking out the rear view mirror?
GMoney 01-21-2007, 11:44 AM Great photos! I went to an Auto Expo in NJ yesterday, and not only did they not have the Patriot, the only vehicle represented by DCX was the Mercedes line. Needless to say I was less than pleased.:confused:
Jdemonto 01-21-2007, 11:55 AM Could you by any chance try to get a photo of where the engage stwich/lever is for FD2? also, have is the visibility out the rear looking out the rear view mirror?
I will if the rain lets up!!!! rear vis. is better than the compass. The 4x4 lock is a t-lever like the compass,commander and grand cherokee..there is no nuetral so flat towing is out..
Jason
Jdemonto 01-21-2007, 11:56 AM Great photos! I went to an Auto Expo in NJ yesterday, and not only did they not have the Patriot, the only vehicle represented by DCX was the Mercedes line. Needless to say I was less than pleased.:confused:
They have been/in and out all night!!! They have been wrenching on them and I guess flashing them. Its strange to see them driving in and out..very cute..baby commander rebirth of the box cherokee!!!
jASON
Jdemonto 01-21-2007, 03:46 PM Working out in the cold today, some pics of snow on the mc dowell mountains!!!!
Jason
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pdxbubba 01-21-2007, 04:21 PM They have been/in and out all night!!! They have been wrenching on them and I guess flashing them. Its strange to see them driving in and out..very cute..baby commander rebirth of the box cherokee!!!
jASON
Thats what I was thinking.. I wonder how the Patriot, '08 Liberty, and the Commander will look stacked next to each other ready for a trail.
Jdemonto 01-21-2007, 04:33 PM They will all do great, I think the commander and new liberty would experience the most body damage!!!
Jason
BigDuke6 01-21-2007, 04:47 PM Wow, you don't see snow in the Valley of the Sun very often!
Jdemonto 01-21-2007, 07:44 PM Currently snowing in north scottsdale!!!!!! WOW!!!!
Jason
BigDuke6 01-21-2007, 07:48 PM Wow!
Do all the test Patriots have the same wheels and ground clearance? Any chance of some pics of the wheels/tires?
Jdemonto 01-21-2007, 10:42 PM All the offroad ones do, the limiteds and the sports seem to be the same. Some are labled onroad and look lower to the ground, the 1" lift is very noticable. The base patriots are here too, there is a photo of a red one as a avitar. I'll get pics of the small base wheels...
Jason
BigDuke6 01-21-2007, 10:47 PM Will be anxious to see pics of the onroad and offroad ones side by side. Man, with all the rain/snow there the press should have a heyday. No shortage of wet desert to play in I imagine. When does the big gig kick off?
Jdemonto 01-23-2007, 12:57 AM Big day is thurday and friday!!! They are testing 24hrs a day until Feb 2, we left at 9PM and they were taking off for a run and there were a few in the service dept being wrenched on!!!!! On a side note, one of our finance guys went to the conference room and ate some food, he did not know it was off limits, they later discovered the missing food and requested the room to be locked!!!!
Jason
Fuzz40 01-23-2007, 02:48 AM Big day is thurday and friday!!! They are testing 24hrs a day until Feb 2, we left at 9PM and they were taking off for a run and there were a few in the service dept being wrenched on!!!!! On a side note, one of our finance guys went to the conference room and ate some food, he did not know it was off limits, they later discovered the missing food and requested the room to be locked!!!!
Jason
You don't want to know what will happen if you steal their pens. Instead of locking up the food, they will lock up you!!! Just kidding.
pdxbubba 01-23-2007, 10:21 AM ...they later discovered the missing food and requested the room to be locked!!!!
Jason
If there's no name on it... it's fair game, right?!?! I thought I would never have to carry a lunch box with my name on it after I left elementry school.... I was wrong.
Jdemonto 01-23-2007, 09:40 PM I guess these guys had a great time last night!!! They took off in a dodge grand caravan and 3 patriots..The van did not come back, I guess there was a rock slide and the van got hit and so did one patriot!!!! The accident happend by tortila flats/rosevelt lake...Reno pass????
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BigDuke6 01-23-2007, 10:01 PM Wow, that is some hardcorps testing. Or maybe there were just down at 4 Peaks drinking beers...HA!
Should be some great conditions for testing and showing off the Patriot with all the weather you have had.
Sergio 01-24-2007, 12:23 AM lol...who is the lucky person that gets to buy that one?
Jdemonto 01-24-2007, 09:27 PM Sorry guys..no more pics:( I was told that they did not appreciate the photos.... I thought I took good ones!!!!!!!!! At least they know who took their food.
Jason
grutza 01-24-2007, 09:31 PM I know I appreciated them. Maybe they didn't like the fact that you criticized their driving ability. Sure a rock slide :p . Thanks for your work.
Jdemonto 01-24-2007, 09:34 PM On a side note, I'm kind of excited that dcx knows and reads the forums...WHERES my CRD JK DCX??????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
BigDuke6 01-24-2007, 11:11 PM I was wondering when they would put a lid on pics and info. I am sure there will be an embargo on the press event for a week or so. Thanks for sharing what you had, and please save the pics for future postings, once the green light is given to make the info public. It is good they read forums, maybe they will take some of our hints. Thanks Jason!!!
PatriotFan 01-25-2007, 08:32 AM If your reading this - hurry up...my POS near died today and I may go buy a rav4 now.
GMoney 01-25-2007, 08:47 AM Jdemonto I appreciated the pics and info also.
DCX, if you are still reading, please hurry! I don't want to wait until it's damn near spring to buy an SUV that I NEED for the winter!
pdxbubba 01-25-2007, 10:35 AM Sorry guys..no more pics:( I was told that they did not appreciate the photos.... I thought I took good ones!!!!!!!!! At least they know who took their food.
Jason
I really appreciate the photos and info. :D :D
The one with the lower fascia off is very good as I was really curious about what is under there... I can really some potential for a new front bumper with a slot for a winch!
Jdemonto 01-25-2007, 01:13 PM Please remove my patriot pics per DCX request...Thx
Jason
superdave 01-25-2007, 01:32 PM I cant imagine why DCX is being such a jerk about it. They certainly don't have anything to gain by pissing off their biggest fans. There are plenty of other suv's out there I can buy if they want to be that way.
Fuzz40 01-25-2007, 01:46 PM If you noticed he said by request, it wasn't a demand. Also DCX is just doing what every other car company does. I remember when GM went crazy about the new camero pictures leaked over the internet. I don't understand why they request these pictures to be removed, we all know what the Patriot looks like so it isn't anything new.
tommcg 01-25-2007, 01:58 PM wow. very disappointing, dcx. you want us to wait for media coverage of this press event? i read several car blogs, and only one of them, a dedicated jeep site, ever mentioned the compass press event. i had to search youtube to find just a couple of videos from it. honestly, no one really cares that the patriot is having a press event this week except for a few loyal guys huddled around this site, so why would you be jerks about it?
some car companies are faking real world, behind-the-scenes shots like this (see Buick's Tiger Woods video with the "angry" security guard) just to get grassroots coverage out to the masses, and dcx is apparently still living in the 90's. C'mon Jason Vines, you know better than that.
superdave 01-25-2007, 02:13 PM [QUOTE=Fuzz40;2705]If you noticed he said by request, it wasn't a demand. Also DCX is just doing what every other car company does. I remember when GM went crazy about the new camero pictures leaked over the internet.
This isnt a leak. The cars are in production, these photos were taken at a dealership, and they are there for a press release. Its big differance.
Patriot 01-25-2007, 02:37 PM I have been somewhat disappointed and dismayed to see that Jeep Marketing has not openly participated in this forum. When the Caliber was in pre-launch there was a specific Dodge Marketing person assigned to the main Caliber board and there were regular informational postings from him. Especially when it came to correcting wildly off base information and speculation. Wonder why Jeep did not do this? I thought Dodge did a really good job with that tactic. Kind of offered something concrete to that community. I thought it was rather small and somewhat pathetic that Jeep put the lid on jdemonto and his efforts to SELL vehicles for them. Shame on you Jeep Marketing. New blood is needed in that department!
xjtke611 01-25-2007, 02:47 PM Thanks for the pics Jason!!!!!!!!!
Why do you have to be so lame DCX??? And where are my diesels? :mad:
jeepxk 01-25-2007, 02:56 PM Maybe Jason needs to protect his job here. I don't know what Jason does for the dealership but I can only imagine the pressure he could get from some big shots at DCX if they discovered something being posted they didn't like. Jason was never shy about who he is or where he works. Jason, if I were you I wouldn't identify myself on these sites for awhile.
Keep feeding us info and go by the name "Bob" or something.
Fuzz40 01-25-2007, 02:56 PM [QUOTE=Fuzz40;2705]
This isnt a leak. The cars are in production, these photos were taken at a dealership, and they are there for a press release. Its big differance.
That is true, I can see what you are saying and it is very disappointing that Jeep Marketing isn't embracing this forum like they did with the caliber forum. Times have changed and it would be nice if car companies realized these forums exists and use them as change to get in touch with there customers. What better chance do they have to get in touch with the people who buy, own, and use these vehicles.
pdxbubba 01-25-2007, 03:30 PM That is true, I can see what you are saying and it is very disappointing that Jeep Marketing isn't embracing this forum like they did with the caliber forum. Times have changed and it would be nice if car companies realized these forums exists and use them as change to get in touch with there customers. What better chance do they have to get in touch with the people who buy, own, and use these vehicles.
Whose to say that marketing is the one with the heavy hand in this case?
It is 'in production' but not officially introduced... sort of like peeking at your presents before you were supposed to open them... I can see how the one putting them out there would like the first intro to be on their terms and don't fault them.
I want to see one just as bad as anyone else here... trust me on this...
Jason, Thanks again for what you were able to share with the fans of the Patriot here on Jeeppatriot.com!
unclejjg 01-25-2007, 04:23 PM Maybe we can't get pics.....but verbal updates would be cool. If you can still keep us up to date on things we'd appreciate it.
widowmaker 01-25-2007, 04:29 PM I think I've seen enough
Not the pictures...but you know what I mean
BigDuke6 01-25-2007, 05:12 PM Kinda wierd that they started building and shipping Patriots before the press event. The JK and Compass were introduced first to the press, then production started. Oh well...
Jdemonto 01-25-2007, 09:50 PM I understand why they are not so happy, Its because the photos on the tow Truck might not look so good??? Or the Media Embargo which is now at risk because of my information that I have shared here. I wish DCX had told us ahead of time instead of being mad with us??? I will not run away and hide, everyone knows who I am.;)
Jason
BigDuke6 01-26-2007, 11:36 AM So, without giving away anything that would get ya in trouble from 'the man', how is the press event going in your opinion? I would assume everyone is having fun.
Jdemonto 01-26-2007, 01:02 PM Don't know!!!!
Jason
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