Why can't we have these dammit!!

http://offroadtrailtoolsblog.com/images/2007JeepJ8Sargeseenatthe09EasterJeepSafa_11A37/DSC_6328.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/car-news/jeep-returns-the-wrangler-to-its-military-roots-with-new-j8/7145056+w750/jeep-j8-in-motion.jpg
http://image.jpmagazine.com/f/11905433/154_0901_01_z+j8_military_jeep+obsticle.jpg
http://cds036.dc1.hwcdn.net/m5v9i3d8/cds/images/id_j8_700_04.jpg

that is so badass.

You won't see those on the front lines.

Why can't we have these dammit!!

I think this has been answered over and over again. Government, environmentialists wannabees/anti recreationists, cost to name a few things.

You won't see those on the front lines.

I'm curious who's military these were made for? Did Jeep get a huge US government contract for them? We may find a friend in Fiat on this topic. I get the feeling they are going to try to steer Jeep back to a more utility focus. It would be good to see Jeep go back to their real roots, civilian versions of military contract vehicles.

Egypt for one, I believe some are assembled there. I think the US Border Patrol is considered a potential customer, if they're not a purchaser already.

Egypt for one, I believe some are assembled there. I think the US Border Patrol is considered a potential customer, if they're not a purchaser already.
Cairo, Egypt, Nov 13, 2008 - Chrysler LLC and the Arab American Vehicles Company (AAV) today officially announced the manufacturing launch of the Jeep J8 multipurpose vehicle at AAV's Cairo assembly plant.

I think this has been answered over and over again. Government, environmentialists wannabees/anti recreationists, cost to name a few things.

You can blame these groups you disagree with all you want, but the bottom line is, just that, the bottom line. Chrysler has determined there is no profit to be made by jumping through the necessary hoops to introduce this vehicle to the US market. Apparently there just are not enough of the Jeep faithful who want a basic utility Jeep like this any more.

Most of us still have Scramblers. ;)

I have a good feeling that if Jeep is even still around in a few years, I'm gonna do what I can to get a diesel wrangler, even if I have to pay someone to ship one from Egypt....

I think this has been answered over and over again. Government, environmentialists wannabees/anti recreationists, cost to name a few things.

we already do. all that jeep is is a wrangler rubicon, with a nice air intake, and armor plated doors.

you can go and get a rubicon, and with a little more money make it look 10 times better than that.

you can take out that radiator with a .22 handgun, you can probably even do it with a pellet gun, its not even protected.

now this is a real army jeep: http://www.armyrecognition.com/customer/tankspy/israel/Light_jeep_TankSpy_forum_002.jpg

now, here is a picture of the above jeep: http://www.allpar.com/news/wp-content/uploads/i560.photobucket.com/albums/ss44/TexasBillC/JeepJ8LPV.jpg

and here is a quote from that last link:

JGMS is marketing the J8 LPV to the Department of Homeland Security as a border patrol vehicle and to the military as a command vehicle, patrol or scout vehicle. personnel transport, or cargo carrier, though it does not qualify as a combat vehicle. An ambulance version is under development.

The J8, which can’t be sold in the U.S. as it doesn’t meet emissions standards [this may change with the 2010 version of the 2.8 liter VM diesel engine], is built by a joint venture of Chrysler and Arab American Vehicles Company at AAV’s plant in Cairo, Egypt. Some are also built by Automotive Industries Ltd. of Nazareth, Israel where it is called the Storm 3 and will be in service with the Israeli Defense Force as a command vehicle. Chrysler says if there is a demand for the J8 for American government sales, an EPA-compliant version could be built in the United States. [Editor's note: the J8 is built in kit form in the US and assembled in Egypt.]

well not sure that anyone wants a heavy armored jeep, just a rugged one with a diesel would be "tits"

All my neighbors who drive KIA's Honda's and Suburu's would take 1 look at that front bumper and put their houses up for sale, before I let my girl drive it to the supermarket.

If you have the cash you can get one. AEV J8 Milspec. They are complete knock-down kits that will run you about $54k.

I have a good feeling that if Jeep is even still around in a few years, I'm gonna do what I can to get a diesel wrangler, even if I have to pay someone to ship one from Egypt....

As long as it is in compliance with EPA and DOT regulations, you could.

I think I prefer the 4 door wrangeler consumer variant.

I'd rather have a civilian version of this. Take off all of the armor and just leave the roll cage and wrap some sheet metal around the engine.

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=318&pictureid=1926

While I have never driven a Wrangler or Humvee in military service. I've been on the trail with Wranglers and H1's.

I can see the Humvee's advantages as a transport and weapons carrier in a theater like Iraq that is somewhat developed and seems to have a lot of open country. In a less developed, much more mountainous terrain, I can see where the J8, by virtue of it's lesser bulk, will go places the Humvee simply couldn't.

Wheeling with H1's, which are awesome vehicles, their size quickly becomes a liability in many off road situations, in the mountains of northern PA anyway. Perhaps in a theater like Afghanistan, the J8 might have a role to play.

Going back to WWII, the Jeep played a hugely important role in Europe, in the swamps and jungles of some Pacific campaigns, it was less useful. Different terrain, different needs. I wonder if any motor pool mechanics ever "Lincoln Locked" any MB's for the tougher stuff.

And sometimes smaller is better, historically the USMC likes to have small strike vehicles, whether it was the Mighty Mite M422 or the more recent, MUTT M151 FAV or the controversial Growler. These are needed to fit in the V-22 Osprey.

Is the army use jeep again because no more hummer.