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: Goodyear DuraTrac


dixiedawg
01-19-2010, 08:21 AM
Anyone have any info on these new tires? They are calling them "the best of all worlds" due to good tread design for both on and off road, and strength.

dixiedawg
01-19-2010, 08:25 AM
From TireRack

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+DuraTrac


And from OffRoad
http://www.off-roadweb.com/tech/0909or_goodyear_wrangler_duratrac_off_road_tire/index.html

todde702
01-19-2010, 09:00 AM
They look like an aggressive tire, but no 17" compatible sizes...and at $190-$200 a piece...ouch! To be fair, they are high load rated tires which always cost more. Cool find though Dixie!

dixiedawg
01-19-2010, 09:01 AM
I really like the tread design, and I can hope it's a good trend coming our way.

Tyler-98-W68
01-20-2010, 02:15 PM
I have the Wrangler Territory which is very close to the Duratrac, and other than the tires being heavy (load range C and E) they work awesome in the snow, rain mud and on dry pavement, they are a little on the loud side but i'll deal with that as they are great tires.

karlo
01-25-2010, 08:17 AM
Duratrac seems to be the most aggressive tires of Goodyear, though really expensive.

festerw
01-25-2010, 09:30 AM
Duratrac seems to be the most aggressive tires of Goodyear, though really expensive.

Close, the MTR's are a little more aggressive. We've got a dually at work with studded Duratrac's on it, gets pretty decent traction compared to the GY SilentArmors we ran last winter.

Patriot Missile
01-25-2010, 06:02 PM
I have the Duratracs on my Patriot and I love them.

Vultite
01-25-2010, 06:27 PM
I have the Duratracs on my Patriot and I love them.

What size did you put on yours?

Patriot Missile
01-25-2010, 06:44 PM
245/70/17.

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4971/p1000076l.th.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/p1000076l.jpg/)

heckler
01-25-2010, 08:04 PM
245/70/17.


and I thought (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33761) those were from a Patriot you'd seen in a parking lot.

How do the 245/70-17's fit? Any rubbing on the struts or body when turning? It's the largest size we've seen here to date.

Patriot Missile
01-25-2010, 10:28 PM
OK. you caught me.:D The "Rubicon Edition" Pat is mine.:D. A friend of mine here in town runs Adam's high rollin customs and it was with him for a few days. He was able to get them to fit with a few mods of the RRO lift. It rubs a tinny bit a FULL lock but its not to bad.
They are a great tire! ride nice, not very loud, and turns out very good in the snow.
It ended up almost 5.5" taller then stock.

BWheeler
01-26-2010, 12:50 AM
Looks like the most reliable tires ever manufactured by Goodyear...
This tire seems perfect for handling tough off-road trails...
Nice design and also hope that it has decent traction...

dixiedawg
01-26-2010, 09:10 AM
Now we can just hope they come out with our size.

calocedrus_decurrens
01-26-2010, 11:00 AM
You could always get 16" rims. They make it in a 225/75R16:

http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/69/76/62/09/0069766209225_215X215.jpg

NW_
02-06-2015, 06:42 PM
I was quoted 245/75/16 would work with the RRO lift kit by discount tire. Will be trying it in a couple weeks when my lift gets here

aroundincircles
02-06-2015, 07:01 PM
I was quoted 245/75/16 would work with the RRO lift kit by discount tire. Will be trying it in a couple weeks when my lift gets here

I would be surprised if the fit without hitting the suspension. I had 245/65-17 which are 29.5" tall, and the size you are quoting are a 30.5" tall tire... I had literally 3-4mm between tire and spring guard. There was no way, without further modification, that anything bigger was going to fit.

Tyler-98-W68
02-06-2015, 07:47 PM
I would be surprised if the fit without hitting the suspension. I had 245/65-17 which are 29.5" tall, and the size you are quoting are a 30.5" tall tire... I had literally 3-4mm between tire and spring guard. There was no way, without further modification, that anything bigger was going to fit.

100% agree I run the same size currently, and next week will be putting on my 245/55/19 tires, which are 2mm larger than 245/65/17 I run currently, its going to be very tight.

I can understand people wanting to get huge tires but remember the lack of power and low range these vehicles have it's going to adversely affect all aspects of vehicle performance and handling.

Here are the pics from the thread (7 years old)

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r212/jenniferlearnest/jeeppatriot008.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r212/jenniferlearnest/jeeppatriot007.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r212/jenniferlearnest/jeeppatriot006.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r212/jenniferlearnest/jeeppatriot005.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r212/jenniferlearnest/jeeppatriot004.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r212/jenniferlearnest/jeeppatriot003.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r212/jenniferlearnest/jeeppatriot002.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r212/jenniferlearnest/jeeppatriot001.jpg

He is running TJ MOAB rims, just did some looking through the thread, that wheel and tire combo is 77lbs, that is just wow patriot would feel like slug.

I"m trying not to be super negative but if you can get them on, you'll need spacers or rims with a big offset and everything on the suspension is going to wear out real fast.

NW_
02-07-2015, 01:02 AM
Thanks for your opinions. Will likely go a couple sizes smaller

Tyler-98-W68
02-07-2015, 02:05 AM
16" wheels 225/75/16 is a good size, depending on the tire try to avoid the load range C and E if possible. 235/70/16 is also a popular size and most tires in that size aren't super heavy either.

I"ve found 235/75/15 to have the best selection of aggressive yet "light" offroad tires.

O'DubhGhaill
02-07-2015, 10:03 AM
I simply don't understand how these enormous tires work in winter when the wheel wells fill with snow and ice that stays packed due to sub freezing temps, and I'm not talking about simple mud flap buildup. My 215/70R16 are perfect, but right at the winter operating limit. Rub, even the famous "slight rub at full lock" in ideal weather conditions is unacceptable to me and winter here only amplifies that operating concern.

The DuraTracs look to be an awesome tire, that and the new BFG KO2 or whatever the new version is, are tires I'd seriously consider if they were ever offered in OEM sizing.

Jeeperitis
02-07-2015, 11:10 AM
I simply don't understand how these enormous tires work in winter when the wheel wells fill with snow and ice that stays packed due to sub freezing temps, and I'm not talking about simple mud flap buildup. My 215/70R16 are perfect, but right at the winter operating limit. Rub, even the famous "slight rub at full lock" in ideal weather conditions is unacceptable to me and winter here only amplifies that operating concern.

The DuraTracs look to be an awesome tire, that and the new BFG KO2 or whatever the new version is, are tires I'd seriously consider if they were ever offered in OEM sizing.

I'm from Canada(read snow belt)..every vehicle I've owned has the snow build up in the wheel wells....and every vehicle I've owned,has gotten by with no problems,along with everyone else who lives here with lifted everything from Jeeps to pick ups.

In the case of my lifted riot,I garage park it and it(the garage) is attached to the house,so it is always a touch above freezing,and any wheel well snow always melts off=no build up...and any way with the lift,and wheels and tires with the proper back space built into the wheel there is tons of room for any build up.

As far as the Dura-Tracs....have you seen how heavy these tires are....The stock 215/65R/17 Good for a year SRA's are 28lbs a tire...the 235/70R/16 General Grabber's I went to are 33lbs a tire....the Dura-Tracs @ 225/75R/16 are 41lbs a tire!!!!!! Something to definitely consider..I believe the BFG KO2's are very heavy too!!!! Like I said something to consider if you don't want large amounts of extra strain on the suspension wheel bearing CV shaft components not to mention fuel economy going out the window.

My wheels and tires are a bit heavier than stock but I'm still getting 8.6L/100km's @ 90KPH on cruise on the highway...that is 30+ MPG!!

Cheers,
Bill.

dixiedawg
02-07-2015, 11:51 AM
No need for tires for me this winter, I'll run the SR-As this winter, but for next winter I want to mount snow tires on the 16" rims I have. I want a good snow tire, that the chains I have for the SR-As will still fit, so about the same height and width.

What would you folks mount on the 16" as a dedicated winter tire, that my chains need to fit?

O'DubhGhaill
02-07-2015, 11:53 AM
Jeeperitis, I'm from Central New York, read snow belt as well. My Pat is parked outdoors, no garage and the ice/snow buildup is substantial, often leaving no room at all - its great that your situation is better. Tire weight is definitely a consideration for me, but we don't know what the DuraTrac or BFG weight would be in an OEM size, but probably heavy still given how substantial they appear. I'm extremely happy with my Discoverer A/T3s for now.

O'DubhGhaill
02-07-2015, 11:58 AM
Dixie, I run Cooper Discoverer A/T3s in 215/70R16 on Jeep black steelies. I run self tightening chains (AutoTrac (http://www.peerlesschain.com/autotrac/)) on them with no clearance problems - they work through the buildup too with no contact with wheel well components.

dixiedawg
02-07-2015, 12:19 PM
It can be tough to put chains on the SR-As sometimes, they are tight in places. I often have to go to the wand wash to spray off all that build up in the wheel wells, before I can put chains on.

Tyler-98-W68
02-07-2015, 12:36 PM
It can be tough to put chains on the SR-As sometimes, they are tight in places. I often have to go to the wand wash to spray off all that build up in the wheel wells, before I can put chains on.

What if you jacked up each corner of the vehicle allowing the suspension to flex out, that might give a bit more room.

dixiedawg
02-07-2015, 05:11 PM
It might give more room, but do I really want to pull out a jack, and jack up each corner, on snow and ice, rather than just the 5 minutes it takes to throw on 4 chains...

Besides, I'd be worried about what might hit when I let the jack down, you don't want the chains to catch on anything. I worry about the corners of the strut brace anyway.

WXman
02-10-2015, 07:39 AM
As far as the Dura-Tracs....have you seen how heavy these tires are....The stock 215/65R/17 Good for a year SRA's are 28lbs a tire...the 235/70R/16 General Grabber's I went to are 33lbs a tire....the Dura-Tracs @ 225/75R/16 are 41lbs a tire!!!!!! Something to definitely consider..I believe the BFG KO2's are very heavy too!!!! Like I said something to consider if you don't want large amounts of extra strain on the suspension wheel bearing CV shaft components not to mention fuel economy going out the window.



The Duratracs are actually a VERY lightweight tire to have such aggressive tread. The reason they are so light is because the sidewalls are thin. I ran them in 33x12.50-15 on my Wrangler and those only weighed 49 lbs. each. The 245/75-16 "E" rated Duratrac is about 46 lbs. each. There is no way a 225/75-16 is 41 lbs. Were those also "E" rated? I'd be surprised if they were that heavy. These tires are known for being light and fuel efficient yet aggressive enough to handle mud.

Now, the BFGs...you are 100% correct there. Those are very heavy tires due to the 3-ply sidewalls and heavy construction. They are also miserable in snow and mud.

Tyler-98-W68
02-10-2015, 08:13 AM
The Duratracs are actually a VERY lightweight tire to have such aggressive tread. The reason they are so light is because the sidewalls are thin. I ran them in 33x12.50-15 on my Wrangler and those only weighed 49 lbs. each. The 245/75-16 "E" rated Duratrac is about 46 lbs. each. There is no way a 225/75-16 is 41 lbs. Were those also "E" rated? I'd be surprised if they were that heavy. These tires are known for being light and fuel efficient yet aggressive enough to handle mud.

Now, the BFGs...you are 100% correct there. Those are very heavy tires due to the 3-ply sidewalls and heavy construction. They are also miserable in snow and mud.

I can assure you the duratracs do weigh that much, the companies don't lie about the weights of their tires.

I ran 225/75/16 load range E Wrangler Territory (Canadian Tire version of duratracs) for 3 years and they were rated at 39lbs.

I weighed those above mentioned tires with the stock steel wheels and got 61lbs, meaning the stock steel wheels are about 22lbs a piece.

There aren't a large selection of aggressive and "light" tires in the 16" size.

Yokohama Geolander MT+ is one exception though, its 225/75/16 and weighs 34lbs (Same weight as my 245/65/17 firestone destination at's).

When you drop down to the 15" size things are better, as an example the duratrac in 235/75/15 weighs in at 36lbs.

36lbs vs 39lbs might not seem like a lot, but when its 4 wheels and the limited power we have it is a larger difference than you think. Trust me I've run ALOT of different wheels/tire combinations and you don't want super heavy tires.

Jeeperitis
02-10-2015, 02:41 PM
The Duratracs are actually a VERY lightweight tire to have such aggressive tread. The reason they are so light is because the sidewalls are thin. I ran them in 33x12.50-15 on my Wrangler and those only weighed 49 lbs. each. The 245/75-16 "E" rated Duratrac is about 46 lbs. each. There is no way a 225/75-16 is 41 lbs. Were those also "E" rated? I'd be surprised if they were that heavy. These tires are known for being light and fuel efficient yet aggressive enough to handle mud.

Now, the BFGs...you are 100% correct there. Those are very heavy tires due to the 3-ply sidewalls and heavy construction. They are also miserable in snow and mud.

Click specs.,I'm not making this up!!!!

Here are the specs.

225/75R/16 > 41lbs. !!!! E rated yes!!!

Bill.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+DuraTrac&partnum=275QR6WDT&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes