I parked next to a Commander the other night when we went out to eat...
It was a Black Trail Rated Limited!
I put my bumper even with the Commnders and looks like to me they are almost the same length!! Patriot:173.6in Commander:188.5in
This is crazy!!
Made us love the Patriot even more to know that they are close to the same length!!!
I got this off the JEEP.COM
Just thought I would share this!!

PATRIOT:
EXTERIOR DIMENSIONS
Turning Diameter (curb-to-curb) - Turning Right [ft] 35.6
Overall Height - Standard (w/o Roof Rails) [in] Not Applicable
Overhang - Front [in] 43.8
Turning Diameter (curb-to-curb) - Turning Left [ft] 35.6
Overhang - Rear [in] 34.8
Overall Length [in] 173.6
Ground Clearance - Breakover Angle [DEG] 21.3
Ground Clearance - Departure Angle [DEG] 32.2
Wheelbase [in] 103.7
Ground Clearance 9.0
Overall Height - With Roof Rails [in] 64.4
Track - Front [in] 59.8
Track - Rear [in] 59.8
Overall Width [in] 69.1
Ground Clearance - Approach Angle [DEG] 28.1

COMMANDER:
EXTERIOR DIMENSIONSTurning Diameter (curb-to-curb) - Turning Right [ft] 38.7
Overall Height - Standard (w/o Roof Rails) [in] 71.9
Overhang - Front [in] 34.1
Turning Diameter (curb-to-curb) - Turning Left [ft] 38.7
Overhang - Rear [in] 44.9
Overall Length [in] 188.5
Ground Clearance - Breakover Angle [DEG] 20.7
Ground Clearance - Departure Angle [DEG] 27.0
Wheelbase [in] 109.5
Ground Clearance 8.6
Overall Height - With Roof Rails [in] 75.6
Track - Front [in] 62.5
Track - Rear [in] 62.5
Overall Width [in] 74.8
Ground Clearance - Approach Angle [DEG] 34.2

and the commander has the extra seating.

6" of wheelbase variance is actually a lot, not to mention the 5" of width. Of course, it certainly doesn't justify the 2X price tag.

and the commander has the extra seating.

I know!! We were looking at the Commander and I sat in the back and I am 6'2'' my knees were to my chest. 2 SMALL kids I guess would be fine!

Ya know, I see so many Commanders out there that it makes my head spin. I wonder what it would take to make the market shift more towards our beloved underdog, the Pat...

I've said it before and I'll say it again!!! SIZE DOESN'T MATTER!!!;););)

Agreed, no compensating here.

I've said it before and I'll say it again!!! SIZE DOESN'T MATTER!!!;););)

I've always said...

It's not the size of the sword, it's how you wield it.

I've always said...

It's not the size of the sword, it's how you wield it.

or smiteth down with. :p

or smiteth down with. :p

Or "run through" ... hee hee :p

Or "run through" ... hee hee :p

You are hilarious Meg!

You are hilarious Meg!

Aw, thanks! I knew winning the award for "Funniest Girl" out of my entire graduating class (2000) would get me somewhere. :p

I walked out of a store one day and saw what I thought was an odd looking Patriot. When I got closer, I realized that it was actually a Commander, and from a distance it looked incredibly small.