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Anything can be done, but unless you art planning on doing it yourself, it will get expensive. Cost wise, trading you Patriot for one that came with 4x4 would probably cost less.

Every expensive. Between all the part changes you would have the computer items to worry about to. The Parts manual indicates you are headed for trouble.

I would save up and get yourself a nice 4x4 perhaps considering a trade in when you can.

sounds like you need to take off your lift and wheels and trade it in for an FDII.

Some reason I cant post urls for pictures on here? I just saw a dodge-neon-monster-truck, that gave me hope for my lil Patriot...

remove the lift trade it for an FDII or plan on thousands for the conversion

Im going to the dealership...see what they can do.

keeping my Jeep. I dont need a 4x4. Looking for a cheap K & N CAI and new exhaust. Any suggestions on the exhaust system? I was looking at one magna flow makes... Or anything else to help with performance. I got smoked by a PT loser at a red light this week.

if you dont do it right, it willend up being more expensive than just going out and buying a used one with a 4x4 tranny.

what i mean is if it gets screwed up, youll have to pay a good amount to get it fixed, reinstalled, etc etc..plus alternate transportation if you dont have it available, or a gas guzzler...


im rambling.aha

Just curious.....This would seem like one of the first questions a person would ask when considering a Patriot purchase. 4x2 or 4x4? I'm not casting any stones, I absentmindedly ordered the wrong color in haste. Did some aspect of your life change where you previously thought 4x2 would meet your needs? like moving from Texas to Montana.

I bought a 4x2 because it was what I could afford and the only used one they had. They are very scarce here in my area. Had they had a 4x4 I would have bought one and paid a little more. However, I dont need it either and I only get depressed about it when I think what I could have got.

Yea, I agree with the concensus....just trade it in for a 4x4. New or used, whatever you can afford. WAY too much to change over to make one INTO a 4x4 and the expense would far exceed for what you could pick up a nice used Patriot 4x4.

Check out 'autotrader.com', 'cars.com' and even 'carmax' if you have one near by.

Good luck!

Im young. I got sold. I am probably not going to be taking this off road anytime soon. But I have being tring to figure out how to fit a turbo charger in it. Has anyone ever done this... Jeep Patriot SRT4? I am willing to dump some extra cash for 285 HP.

Haha...you're nuts!

DiscoJables - Dude, just do the full engine/transmission swap from an SRT caliber. You'd be dumping in a lot of money, however; at least that transmission and engine were calibrated for the torque-monster that is the SRT-4 Caliber. I believe it would be a first. But the engine-bays should be about the same size, if the Patriot isn't a bit bigger in there. I know I definitely have enough space with just the 2.0L engine.. It'd definitely be fun, but holy-torque-steer.

I would like to see this as well, btw - if we were keeping our Jeep (long story), we would be probably doing the same thing, or trade it for a 4x4, and actually use it.

What do i need. Where do I start? What the best turbo kit for my money without going overboard?

You'd probably void your warranty; but, Seriously just get the SRT-4 Caliber engine (turbo) and Transmission, it should bolt right up, with some adjustments to ride-height, probably.

http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/0/O/0/1/ag_08srt4_engine.jpg

Hmm, nobody wants to do a 4x4 swap. They didn't have any 4x4 Patriots at my dealership. I would've loved a 4x4 5 speed. I have a 5 speed 4x2. Anybody know where I can find a 4x4 5 speed patriot that was crashed in the rear or something and it was totaled through the insurance?

I'd say check your local auto auctions or recycled auto parts shops.

Hmm, nobody wants to do a 4x4 swap. They didn't have any 4x4 Patriots at my dealership. I would've loved a 4x4 5 speed. I have a 5 speed 4x2. Anybody know where I can find a 4x4 5 speed patriot that was crashed in the rear or something and it was totaled through the insurance?

I'm sure it could be done, but how many parts will one need is the question. You would need to find a manual 5 speed 4x4 for your parts. There are three different ring and pinion gear ratios for the patriot. Manual, FDI CVT and FDII CVT have 4.12:1, 6:12.1 and 8.12:1 ratios, which means the rear differentials also have the same three ratios. You have to match the rear diff and front diff ratios otherwise the driveline will just lock-up. The rear diff is controlled by an electric clutch, so you'd have to find out if the 4x2 has the wiring for it or not. I'd suspect not, meaning you'll need to swap wire harness and computers as well. In theory, all you should need is the PTU (bolts to the passenger side halfshaft outlet of the transmission), the passenger side front halfshaft, the driveshaft, rear diff, rear axle shafts and rear wheel hubs. I suppose you could then just rig a single on/off switch for the rear drive clutch.

Which is why I asked about a slightly wrecked but totaled 4x4 Patriot. I would only use the 5 speed. Nothing else. I'm not downgrading to the CVT. I'm guessing you meant respectively when you put those ratios down, so the 5 speed has 4.12:1 gears is what I'm assuming. And I do like the idea of having a rear clutch switch. REAL 4x4, or have a switch for the front clutch also, so that I can have RWD, FWD, or 4x4 with the flip of a couple switches.

The Power Transfer Unit (PTU) that bolts into the transmission gets its power directly from the ring and pinion carrier itself. No clutch involved. If the front R&P is spinning (inside the transmission), the PTU is also spinning sending power to the rear. The rear diff has the electric clutch and the computer will cycle the clutch to apply power to the rear wheels as needed, up to 50%. So you won't be able to do RWD only. Basically it's FWD or AWD.

you might find a wrecked one at --www.copart.com..

good luck..

What do i need. Where do I start? What the best turbo kit for my money without going overboard?
its too risky because seem to be nobody haven't tried that...

The Power Transfer Unit (PTU) that bolts into the transmission gets its power directly from the ring and pinion carrier itself. No clutch involved. If the front R&P is spinning (inside the transmission), the PTU is also spinning sending power to the rear. The rear diff has the electric clutch and the computer will cycle the clutch to apply power to the rear wheels as needed, up to 50%. So you won't be able to do RWD only. Basically it's FWD or AWD.

Gotcha.


And bap, I don't have a license to buy auction vehicles.

I feel you Jables and SeaDisco...I like my 4x2...but then again it was cuz I am young and well...thats what I could afford...beside...thats what my side project, FC3S is for!

I too have found myself with a lesser vehicle than what I wanted before. Time and time again I have found that the best and cheapest way to fix this problem is that you're going to need to trade your Patriot in for a real 4X4. Upgrading all the parts sounds like fun and sounds like a realistic solution, but in actuality its an extremely expensive pipe dream. Much like upgrading my 90 Daytona to a Shelby turbo. In reality, the only people who can afford such a huge mechanical upgrade, are people who could afford to dump off their 4X2 at a loss and buy a 4X4. I don't mean to rain on your parade, but what you are asking simply isn't a viable option. I hate to play the realist, but if a 4X4 is what you wanted, you would have been far better off finding one before you bought yours.

I too have found myself with a lesser vehicle than what I wanted before. Time and time again I have found that the best and cheapest way to fix this problem is that you're going to need to trade your Patriot in for a real 4X4. Upgrading all the parts sounds like fun and sounds like a realistic solution, but in actuality its an extremely expensive pipe dream. Much like upgrading my 90 Daytona to a Shelby turbo. In reality, the only people who can afford such a huge mechanical upgrade, are people who could afford to dump off their 4X2 at a loss and buy a 4X4. I don't mean to rain on your parade, but what you are asking simply isn't a viable option. I hate to play the realist, but if a 4X4 is what you wanted, you would have been far better off finding one before you bought yours.

I realized afterwards that they even made a 4x4 Patriot. I wish they had a 4x4 5 speed base car. If it was exactly like mine but 4x4, I would've bought that instead.