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: Winter tires (Quebec province), what do you do? go A/T or Winter?


Furync
09-04-2009, 07:54 PM
Hi guys,

I just got my Pat but I'm wondering what to do for winter? Since we have to get winter tires in this province... I believe we can get A/T and be legal in the winter...

What do you guys do?

I don't know if I should get another set of wheels and put winter tires on them or simply sell/trash/store my brand new all seasons that came with the jeep, to put some A/T tires on it...

Qu'est-ce que vous mettez comme pneus l'hiver? Savez vous c'est quoi la règle exact? est-ce que c'est des A/T ou des L/T qui sont permis l'hiver?


Thanks!
Merci!!!!

klingoff
09-04-2009, 08:27 PM
I have a friend who lives in Florenceville New Brunswick and he went with a good set of winters and I am planning to do the same myself.

I am looking at the Good Year Nordic's from Canadian Tire, but I haven't decided as of yet. I wish I could afford a set of Good Year Ultra Grip ICE because I found they were an awesome tire. No wonder the RCMP and local police use them! :)

jack.allwardt
09-04-2009, 08:58 PM
Do you Northern-types use tire chains? If so, what do you recommend for this flat lander that will be heading to the Pacific Northwest next month? I've always carried chains, many times needed them for driving on icy roads--want to have that assurance with the Patriot.

Jayhmbn
09-04-2009, 09:06 PM
are what I bought. I live in Michigan right along the east side of Lake Michigan and we generally get a lot of snow. Chains are illegal so I thought I would give them a try. I just bought them though (August) so I have yet to try them out. I hope they work well. I bought them from Tirerack.com for $91 US.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=Grandtrek+SJ6

mrmidnite2
09-04-2009, 09:27 PM
I have a friend who lives in Florenceville New Brunswick and he went with a good set of winters and I am planning to do the same myself.

I am looking at the Good Year Nordic's from Canadian Tire, but I haven't decided as of yet. I wish I could afford a set of Good Year Ultra Grip ICE because I found they were an awesome tire. No wonder the RCMP and local police use them! :)

You won't go far wrong with a set of Bridgestone/Firestone Winterforce tires. Here in my "town" many vehicles are equipped with these tires, and we are in heavy snow/ice country here. Had them on my previous vehicles, GM Montana, and Dodge Grand Caravan, Nissan Altima etc and have got a new set already mounted on plain black rims to go onto my PAT at the first sign of snow....
You can stud them as well if legal in your area...

http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tirebrand=Firestone&tiremodel=Winterforce

Jeep Frank
09-04-2009, 09:28 PM
Do you Northern-types use tire chains? If so, what do you recommend for this flat lander that will be heading to the Pacific Northwest next month? I've always carried chains, many times needed them for driving on icy roads--want to have that assurance with the Patriot.
Check out this thread. I got the quick fit chains from les schwab. I havn't used them yet but they fit well. I had the same ones for my Civic and used them a bunch, I was pleased with them.
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10034&highlight=chains+tire

Jeep Frank
09-04-2009, 09:32 PM
Hi guys,

I just got my Pat but I'm wondering what to do for winter? Since we have to get winter tires in this province... I believe we can get A/T and be legal in the winter...

What do you guys do?

I don't know if I should get another set of wheels and put winter tires on them or simply sell/trash/store my brand new all seasons that came with the jeep, to put some A/T tires on it...

You will have a hard time finding a/t tires (see other threads, there are not a lot available in our size). Keep in mind most a/t tires aren't that great for winter driving. Very few have the 'mountian and snowflake' symble that designates them as acceling in winter conditions.
Go with dedicated winter tires. Thats my two cents.

Hitzy
09-04-2009, 09:38 PM
You can stud tires in PQ as well. I went with General Grabber AT2, worked great in the winter for me. I may stud them this year, as the only problems i had were the overly sensitive anti-lock brakes on the Patriot. It's fine if you press very lightly, tires stop great, but if your press the brake too hard and they skid, the ABS kicks in and you roll for quite a piece before you can get stopped.

klingoff
09-04-2009, 09:45 PM
You won't go far wrong with a set of Bridgestone/Firestone Winterforce tires. Here in my "town" many vehicles are equipped with these tires, and we are in heavy snow/ice country here. Had them on my previous vehicles, GM Montana, and Dodge Grand Caravan, Nissan Altima etc and have got a new set already mounted on plain black rims to go onto my PAT at the first sign of snow....
You can stud them as well if legal in your area...

http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tirebrand=Firestone&tiremodel=Winterforce

I agree my Mother has those on her UpLander and they are a great tire.

rockymountainguy
09-05-2009, 06:30 AM
If you're looking for a good cheap tire, for the past 2 years i ran on Good year Ultra Grip from Canadian Tire., had them on my PT crusier and never got stuck here in Mtl. On my Pat I will put the same thing(215/65/16 with aftermarket rims) Right now they are on sale.and pretty well all tires from Can.tire are guaranteed for as long as you own them. I even know some people who have bought them used and still able to exchange them.

UPKEV
09-05-2009, 08:57 AM
I have been having this discussion with myself and online for a while with no good conclusions. Other than if you live on or travel often on unplowed roads (if I did I would get snow tires in a heartbeat), I can't justify them and we get 300 inches of snow here.

When I read the reviews on winter tires, I see alot of comments that they made it two whole seasons, or that they only made it two whole seasons. If that is true, that doesn't seem like it is worth the money or the pain, plus the need for a 5th spare tire to match. I have been waiting for some info that relugates this to myth, but so far haven't found it.

How long do snow tires last? Please don't say depends.

patriotpierre
09-05-2009, 10:14 AM
Les pneus d'hiver sont maintenant obligatoires au Qébec. Pas ceux classés Mud and Snow. Ceux qui ont le logo montagne et flocon sur le côté et qui sont reconnus comme classification pneus d'hiver.

Moi j'ai choisi pour mes roues de 17'' que je garde à l'année des Toyo Observe G-02 Plus. Pour la Gaspésie, ça prend du bon! Un pneu d'hiver de qualité pour conditions extrêmes très haut coté et un prix acceptable $670 CAD posés, balancés, taxes incluses. j'ai roulé un hiver avec et je les apprécie beaucoup. va voir le site Toyo.

http://www.toyocanada.com/products/Prod_Winter_FR.asp

In a few words, winter tires are compulsory in Quebec.The ones with the real classification Moutain and Snow Flake on the side . Be careful with the possible confusion with Mud and Snow classification. Be sure they are recognized officially as winter tires by the government and dealers. My choice : Toyo Observe G-02 Plus. High quality winter tire.

todde702
09-05-2009, 10:19 AM
I have the 17" rims with the Goodyear SR-A's on them and they handled the winter muck just fine here in PA (although it was a light winter with only a few snow covered days). PA get's an odd mix of winter conditions ranging from a light dusting (which can sometimes be deceivingly slippery) to 33" blizzards and the occasional massive ice storm. My Wife's GMC has the Firestone Destination LE's on it and it also handles the snow great (though her previous Goodyear Wrangler RS's sucked in/on everything but dry roads).

Upkev, I know quite a few people that bought the Michelin Blizzaks winter tire packages from Tire Rack and ran a good 4-5 seasons with them. Here in PA that means putting them on in November-ish and removing them in March-April. I think the biggest killer is storing them properly so they don't dry rot too quickly. They are a softer tire though so if you're an aggressive driver (on dry pavement that is) you can prolong them if you slow your roll some while they are in use.

R.E.M.
09-05-2009, 11:54 AM
I went for the Toyo Observe Open Country... Pretty much the same than the G-02+, but designed for VUS and Caravan. And beleive me, these tires rocks! A bit expensive, but if you can afford them, go for it!

UPKEV
09-05-2009, 02:36 PM
I have the 17" rims with the Goodyear SR-A's on them and they handled the winter muck just fine here in PA (although it was a light winter with only a few snow covered days). PA get's an odd mix of winter conditions ranging from a light dusting (which can sometimes be deceivingly slippery) to 33" blizzards and the occasional massive ice storm. My Wife's GMC has the Firestone Destination LE's on it and it also handles the snow great (though her previous Goodyear Wrangler RS's sucked in/on everything but dry roads).

Upkev, I know quite a few people that bought the Michelin Blizzaks winter tire packages from Tire Rack and ran a good 4-5 seasons with them. Here in PA that means putting them on in November-ish and removing them in March-April. I think the biggest killer is storing them properly so they don't dry rot too quickly. They are a softer tire though so if you're an aggressive driver (on dry pavement that is) you can prolong them if you slow your roll some while they are in use.

Thanks! This is good info, I will add it to my file. :smiley_thumbs_up: