You couldn't possibly need more light than this...

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights028.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights030.jpg

By request from Wade - here's how:


well, first I got my M8 riv-nuts 95105A191 from (www.mcmaster.com) and a 13.5 mm drill bit to fit a 1/2" drill.

http://www.mcmaster.com/param/images/rivets/95105a115_search.gif


so, I got my drill, cut a pilot hole and then a 13.5 mm hole into the steel bumper through the plastic (which is almost 1/8" thick!). I then carved a 1" hole into the plastic bumper for a spacer to fit.

The rivnuts are going in tomorrow, and I'll be using a 1" OD X 1" tall machined cylinder with a hole in the centre to space the light up and above the plastic bumper.



Now, the bumper lights...

Drill
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights011.jpg

Cut
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights013.jpg

Insert Rivnut (see above)
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights018.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights019.jpg

Install spacer (1" tall)
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights020.jpg

Install lights

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights022.jpg

Badaboom
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights023.jpg

then the switches into the dash. Simply cut a hole with a knife. That's the nice part about a vehicle that's 98% plastic. I wired the ground of the switch lights into the ground wire for the lighter.
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights004.jpg

Then some wires. I ran them through the driver side fender over the wheel and through the grommet in the A pillar. Up the A-pillar through the foam that's in there (push with a steel wire) and then underneath the plastic moulding on the inside into the dash.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights006.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights005.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights008.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights032.jpg

Then the relays, mounted into the front end over the drivers headlight ( I still need another sheet metal screw to mount the second relay)
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights034.jpg
...

Then I swapped out my old square roof lights for new Procomp 55's (http://www.explorerprocomp.com/PDFs/07cat/100-103.pdf), a 4" fog light (fluted so the beam is wide)

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights002.jpg

And added some aux reverse lights to the roof rack, with the relay mounted inside the rear light assembly and wired to the reverse lights. The aux lights come on automatically with the reverse lights. They are KC 26 series (http://www.kchilites.com/26-Series-C8.aspx) Kind of pricey at $130 (C) for the set with wiring.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights001.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights016-1.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights017.jpg
...

The results:

Headlights only
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights024.jpg

Highbeams only
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights025.jpg

Highbeams and bumper lights
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights026.jpg

Highbeams, bumpers and roof
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights027.jpg

reverse lights
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights029.jpg
...

http://bb.bc4x4.com/showthread.php?t=84978&highlight=bumper

here's a thread on the legality of aux reverse lights in BC (maybe in Canada)

Maybe I'll kick the bulbs out of the factory reverse bulbs. ;)

MVA 4.18

"Backup lamps

4.18 (1) A vehicle may be equipped with not more than 2 backup lamps, mounted on the rear of the vehicle, that are capable of displaying only white light to the rear of the vehicle.

(2) A backup lamp must illuminate only when the vehicle is in reverse gear."

Can you just put another switch inline with them Heckler?
Leave em on normally. Switch em off if you see a situation that may warrant having a little less light back there (like a policeman behind you)

The real question now is, how much for you to install this set up on my Jeep? :-D

Thanks for the post!

Now that's light! :notworthy:

Project Abyss, eh? Your avatar does look like a submersible in the depths of the ocean.

It also looks like Close Encounters of the Third Kind. :)

Who needs HID kits when you have that. :D

Wow..... just... wow....

This will come in handy during the Zombie apocalypse... :p I'm Jealous :D

I'll probably throw a cover on the reverse lights and call them offroad lights to keep it legal. Really, they're not needed in the city.

A switch on them still wouldn't be "legal" in BC.

When did this fear of the darkness begin.......:D
Did your brother lock you in a closet?

Wow, what a great install! Nice work. I especially like the spacers for the bumper mounted lights. Nice fit and finish.

I just like working on the Jeep. My bank account's lucky I don't have a TJ that has aftermarket support.

Here's an important note to keep in mind.

I did run into a minor setback (which drove me up the wall for an hour), in that my white spacer wasn't in line with the threaded insert because I cut the bumper hole slightly in the wrong place. This resulted in me forcing the bolt in and cross threading it and seizing so it couldn't be tightened. The threaded insert started spinning in the bumper because the bolt was seized. I couldn't tighten or loosen it.

If you use these threaded inserts, take care that the bolt threads in nicely by hand! Don't force anything.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/polished_heckler/Jeeplights021.jpg

I had to cut off the bolt head, destroy the top flange of the threaded insert and push it inside the bumper, then fish it out the side of the bumper. PITA, but after an hour I got it and replaced it, and cut the hole in the plastic a little larger.

An important note about relays and fuses!!

make sure you use a relay to wire them up (http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/relays.html). The switch likely can't handle that much power and could melt. Also fuses!

Heckler,
Are there rules where you live about the lights on the roof rack? Are covers required? I've heard people on rants about covers, but I've never seen any actual laws.

Those would be great on those back country roads with all the deer! Especially since standard time is back. Lots of evening hours of darkness.

British Columbia (Canada) MVA laws (copied from bb.bc4x4.com)


Headlamps
4.05 (1) A motor vehicle must be equipped with either one or 2 headlamps mounted on each side of the front of the vehicle and capable of displaying white light.

(2) The headlamps must be mounted at a height of not less than 56 cm and not more than 1.37 m.

(3) Subsection (2) does not apply to highway construction and maintenance equipment.


[en.BC. Reg. 476/98, s. 2.]


Auxiliary driving lamps
4.09 (1) A motor vehicle may be equipped with 2 auxiliary driving lamps, mounted on the front of the vehicle at a height of not less than 40 cm and not more than 1.06 m, that are capable of displaying only white light.

(2) An auxiliary driving lamp must be directed so that the high intensity portion of the beam is, at a distance of 8 m from the lamp, at least 12 cm below the height of the lamp and, at a distance of 25 m from the lamp, not higher than 1.06 m from the road surface.

(3) An auxiliary driving lamp must operate so that it is illuminated only when the upper beam of a multiple beam headlamp is illuminated.

[en. B.C. Reg. 476/98, s. 2.]


Fog lamps
4.11 (1) A motor vehicle may be equipped with 2 fog lamps, mounted on the front of the vehicle below the headlamps, that are capable of displaying only white or amber light.

(2) Each fog lamp must be

(a) mounted not more than 30 cm below the headlamps, and

(b) adjusted and aimed so that, at a distance of 8 m from the lamp, the centre of the beam is at least 10 cm below the height of the fog lamp.

(3) The fog lamp wiring and switch must permit simultaneous operation of the parking lamps, tail lamps, licence plate lamp and, if required, clearance lamps.

(4) The operator of a vehicle may use fog lamps instead of headlamps when atmospheric conditions make the use of headlamps disadvantageous.

[en. B.C. Reg. 476/98, s. 2.]

Backup lamps
4.18 (1) A vehicle may be equipped with not more than 2 backup lamps, mounted on the rear of the vehicle, that are capable of displaying only white light to the rear of the vehicle.

(2) A backup lamp must illuminate only when the vehicle is in reverse gear.

[en. B.C. Reg. 476/98, s. 2.]

Docking lamps
4.19 (1) A truck or truck tractor, and no other vehicle, may be equipped with 2 docking lamps, directed to the rear of the vehicle, which illuminate only when the truck or truck tractor is in neutral or reverse gear.

(2) The docking lamps must be directed in such a way that the high intensity portion of the beam does not strike the eye of another driver.

[en. B.C. Reg. 476/98, s. 2.]

Spotlamps
4.24 (1) A motor vehicle on a highway may be equipped with not more than 2 spotlamps that are capable of displaying only white light.

(2) An illuminated spotlamp must be directed so that the high intensity portion of the beam will not strike the windows, mirrors or occupants of another vehicle.

(3) A spotlamp must be securely fastened to the motor vehicle, and the lamp or control must not interfere with the driver's vision or control of the vehicle.

(4) A spotlamp must not be used in substitution of headlamps.

(5) Subsections (1) to (3) do not apply to emergency vehicles.

[en. B.C. Reg. 476/98, s. 2.]

Off-road lamps
4.25 Despite section 4.04 (2) (c), (See Below)a vehicle equipped with off-road lamps when on a highway must have the off-road lamps concealed with opaque covers. OPAQUE= LIGHT WON”T PENETRATE

(((4.04
(2)
(c) must not be shielded, covered or obscured by any part of the vehicle or load or by dirt or other material.)))

here's an alternative to mounting on the bumper (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32550)

A warning about having the lights wired direct to the battery. (http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?p=248110#post248110)

Heckler,

How did you run the wiring from the roof basket? Did you drill holes? Go through the rear hatch? I have the same basket and would like to add lights but I am trying to avoid drilling.

I ran the power to the front lights along the front right fender, beside the hood, and past the hood hinges and up the right side of the windshield. A zip tie near the hood hinge and a zip tie to the roof rack worked fairly well to hold the wires in place, but a sticky tab on the windshield holding a zip tie really did the trick.

No drilling, no leaks. Just a little paint wear under the wires over time.

The front roof lights just look cool though - they're pretty useless. They light up the antenna and hood, which is annoying.

I do like my aux reverse lights though. Their wires come out the reverse lights, and into a rubber grommet that's behind the rear lense. Then the wires pop out of a rubber grommet that's in the rear hatch, and come out between the hatch and roofline. There's risk of leaks here, since I punched holes in the rubber grommets, but the silicone on the holes works pretty good to keep the water out.

Good luck!

Those nice lights you must drive at nightime much, can see everywhere good.

my lights are amazing on the roof. I have hella 500s up there with 130w bulbs. soon to be changed to 60w HID in 4300k. even brighter then...only problem I have is when I have them on, i have to close the sunroof blind. but for spotting moose on the roads, they are invaluable. My next lighting mod is a pair of 500 fogs with 3000k 35w hid in them.

I was installing my radar detector and I followed Heckler's instructions for running wiring from the engine bay. I wanted mine to go up the A pilar but I found it difficult getting from the outside to the inside of the pilar. I finally found a way, its not the one mentioned (that goes to the glove box) but it works. Here are some pictures for future reference. Thank you all for your help!!

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_n2ozBMowLOs/THBLsCRcROI/AAAAAAAAAB4/Sk0nhZShx58/s720/IMAG0036.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_n2ozBMowLOs/THBLpv0joSI/AAAAAAAAAB4/YFsRKyMSuRw/s720/IMAG0035.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_n2ozBMowLOs/THBLvkemOzI/AAAAAAAAAB4/KHSWwQGW9M8/s720/IMAG0037.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_n2ozBMowLOs/THBMKKaRMTI/AAAAAAAAAB0/Mh4R8S_SNxY/s720/IMAG0034.jpg

I think I poked through that tape covered hole next to the blue wire bundle (airbag?), and then pushed through the foam insulation that is inside the pillar. Thanks for the pictures!

was the hole you went through fairly easy to push through?

I know this is a little late in the discussion but do you have a wiring diagram you can post. I'm wanting to get driving lights and just wondering where you get your V for the relay among other things.

so i finally got around to adding lights did the install of the lights themselves and then got a garage to do the wiring since i don't have the tools and would rather have a pro deal with things that can set my car on fire :). cutting out the bumper was a lot easier then i thought especially thanks to Heckler's directions. i got the lights from princess auto, they are their generic brand, 55w a piece with two in each housing. two spot two flood. i have it wired were the two spots can run on their own and then i can switch it to all four running at once. super happy with the way they came out.

also thanks again to heckler for having such a clear write up.

Hi Heckler,
How and where did you run your wires for the roof lights?

Thanks!

the front wires run out from under the hood up the passenger side of the windshield. Zip tied to a ponit near the hood hinge and zip tied to the factory roof rack. The wires are shielded in smooth heat shrink and pulled a little snug, and they haven't been a problem at all.

the rear wires are inside the body, running from inside the taillight up to a hole in the unibody, then out between the rear hatch and the roof line.