On Jeep.com, you can price out a 08 Jeep Liberty. This is just a marketing tool, so none of the information is set in concrete. It will change until the Liberty is released later this year. It gives some idea, though, of what options are available and their estimated cost.

I priced a Sport model out--fairly well equiped--in the mid $24,000 range.

Yup, I've also been on there looking at the new Liberty. But with the price of gas being what it is and the fact that I've already got my Liberty I don't think I'll end up getting one.

It's a nice redesign - but if I were to upgrade it'd be for something with improved MPG ratings.

From reading, it looks as if Chrysler is working on a MDS system for their 6 cyl engines. If that were to be an option, it would definately be of more interest to me. However, even with the 6, I could milk that sucker to give me decent mileage. My wife on the other hand, well . . . . :-)

For me, with the Patriot, the question is still the reliability of the new engine. Also, with the new technology of the CVT 2L, it just makes me a little nervous.

Pretty much everything on the Liberty has been tried and tested over time.

From reading, it looks as if Chrysler is working on a MDS system for their 6 cyl engines. If that were to be an option, it would definately be of more interest to me. However, even with the 6, I could milk that sucker to give me decent mileage. My wife on the other hand, well . . . . :-)

For me, with the Patriot, the question is still the reliability of the new engine. Also, with the new technology of the CVT 2L, it just makes me a little nervous.
I was under the impression that both engine and CVT have been around before the Patriot and not entirely untried.

Pretty much everything on the Liberty has been tried and tested over time.
Does that hold true for the 08 Liberty? It looked like the 08 Liberty is undergoing a major overhaul... maybe as much as it becoming a rebadged Nitro.

The 2.4L world engine in the Patroit should last for a very long time. The CVT might make people nervous - but my sister loves it and got an extended warranty to ease her fears.

The V6 MDS technology isn't expected out until 2009 (or is it 2010) which will be included in the new line of Chrysler V6's. I think the code name is Pheniox or something like that...

The frame, transmission, engine are all carry over from the existing Liberty but the suspension and vehicle electronics have been updated (along with the sheet metal.) It should be very reliable. Just for me, it's would be like buying something I already own all over again, ya know..?

My '08 priced out Liberty with the popular equipment group, skid plates, tow group, and 6 spd manual came to $24,833. At over $800 for the sun roof, I said "No Thanks." Also, I went with Command Trac and not the full time Select Trac 4-wheel drive system.

Does anyone think that Patriot (esp. the off-road pkg) sales will suffer when the new Liberty arrives? Everything being equal, it seems that it is in the ballpark price-wise, probably a more capable off-road vehicle, has similar cargo area, bigger engine, and similar gas mileage compared to the off-road Patriot.

Does anyone think that Patriot (esp. the off-road pkg) sales will suffer when the new Liberty arrives? Everything being equal, it seems that it is in the ballpark price-wise, probably a more capable off-road vehicle, has similar cargo area, bigger engine, and similar gas mileage compared to the off-road Patriot.
No, I don't think that the new Liberty will hurt Patriot sales. If anything it will INCREASE Patriot sales.

Not everyone is enamored with the Dodge Nitro-like nose. The new Liberty is more likely to hurt Commander sales than Patriot sales since its styling is closer to the Commander's.

Some people didn't like the styling on the old Liberty. I had mixed feelings about it. I thought that the hood and nose were very reminiscent of the old Willys Wagons of the 50's/60's (which I definitely liked). But the body seemed like it would be more comfortable with a "Land Rover" badge than "Jeep".

The Patriot hurt Liberty sales for those who wanted a neoclassic Jeep look and general functionality (Cherokee). I doubt that the new Liberty will change that dynamic... because the Patriot is still the Patriot.

The new Liberty will be welcomed by some (many), and rejected by others. I see Patriot sales exploding in the coming year as they become more visible on the road. Over the past 5 months I've only seen 1 other Patriot (and even that, only once) in a 400 mile radius.

Now whether or not the new Liberty causes the Patriot sales to increase only 30% this year (instead of 50%) will be interesting to see.

HoosierMud, I would be more concerned with the technology of MDS than CVT. MDS gives you the performance of a 4 and the economy of a 5 out of a 6. I would rather have a diesel 4 but given the choices go for either the 4 or a 6.

No, I don't think that the new Liberty will hurt Patriot sales. If anything it will INCREASE Patriot sales.

Not everyone is enamored with the Dodge Nitro-like nose. The new Liberty is more likely to hurt Commander sales than Patriot sales since its styling is closer to the Commander's.

Some people didn't like the styling on the old Liberty. I had mixed feelings about it. I thought that the hood and nose were very reminiscent of the old Willys Wagons of the 50's/60's (which I definitely liked). But the body seemed like it would be more comfortable with a "Land Rover" badge than "Jeep".

The Patriot hurt Liberty sales for those who wanted a neoclassic Jeep look and general functionality (Cherokee). I doubt that the new Liberty will change that dynamic... because the Patriot is still the Patriot.

The new Liberty will be welcomed by some (many), and rejected by others. I see Patriot sales exploding in the coming year as they become more visible on the road. Over the past 5 months I've only seen 1 other Patriot (and even that, only once) in a 400 mile radius.

Now whether or not the new Liberty causes the Patriot sales to increase only 30% this year (instead of 50%) will be interesting to see.

The new Liberty however, will have higher towing capacity, more horsepower and torque, and bigger dimensions. I fully expect that it will cut into the Commander sales a bit but don't think it will effect Patriot sales as much.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the Grand Cherokee and Commander.

My guess is that the next generation Grand Cherokee will get front end styling much like the Trailhawk concept vehicle -- more agressive and sporty looking.

While fuel economy is a big thing and everyone is looking at crossovers etc., Chrysler will still need to produce full sized uniframe (vs. unibody) vehicle for those who need to tow heavier loads and for those who need 7-passenger seating. I would expect that the Commander will move off the Grand Cherokee architecture (hence the rumors that it was going away) and go to a shortened version of the next-generation Durango platform.

Regardless, everything really is back on the drawing board now that the Chrysler Group will be under new management come Q3 of this year. Interestingly enough, Cerebus is looking at possibly purchasing Jaguar and Land Rover too. Land Rover and Jeep in the same family... that would be kind of ironic since Land Rover started in 1947 when the the Wilks family used spare Willys MB parts to build the first Land Rover prototype.

any word on when more concrete info will be out on the Liberty's?

any word on when more concrete info will be out on the Liberty's?

Check with your dealer, ordering should be opening up within the next few weeks to make their "Summer 2007" launch date.

July is typically the start of production for the 2008 models (just like the Patriot) so I'd imagine some real information on pricing and options will be available in August 2007. You should expect to see these things on dealer lots around September


With the recent comments about the Nitro being a flop and that dealers have been encouraged to push sales - I wonder if the new Liberty will get a bad rap early in its life that migh hurt the year over year sales figures.

The Commander is a gonner though so who knows.

I have searched the Jeep.com site and all I see is the 2007 "Build and Price". Where is the new 2008 Patriot stuff at?

We're going back and forth on which to buy... and are holding out to see the real-world stats and fit of the 08 Libbie.

If the mpg are near that of the Patriot with a wider interior at nearly the same cost....

There are too many factors at this point without sitting in one and driving it.

I know we wouldn't pay over $500 for that mega-sun roof. We hardly used the sun roofs we had previously. I wonder if it would be a hinderance to putting a safari rack on the roof?!?!?

With the recent comments about the Nitro being a flop and that dealers have been encouraged to push sales - I wonder if the new Liberty will get a bad rap early in its life that migh hurt the year over year sales figures.

The only really negative comments I have heard about the Nitro is the cowcatcher front end design. There are definitely a ton of them on the road.

Check with your dealer, ordering should be opening up within the next few weeks to make their "Summer 2007" launch date.

We were in three different local Jeep dealerships this past Sunday to see what they had and did ask each about the 2008 Liberty... two of them said it wasn't going to change much from the 2007 model (which is where we pretty much packed up the kids and left for another lot). The last lot said he didn't have any info on them yet so he went in back to find out more... than came back with someone who really wanted us to buy one that was in stock...

I only seem to get the latest info off the web - and no sales-pitch thrown in.

I hope that some new info comes out soon.

If someone ordered one now, isnt there the possibility that the order could be pushed to an '08 model? would the price stay as set at the time of ordering? what if you don't like the newer model (no very likely to happen - I am just asking for sake of curiousity) do you lose out any of your money you'd put down?

We were in three different local Jeep dealerships this past Sunday to see what they had and did ask each about the 2008 Liberty... two of them said it wasn't going to change much from the 2007 model (which is where we pretty much packed up the kids and left for another lot). The last lot said he didn't have any info on them yet so he went in back to find out more... than came back with someone who really wanted us to buy one that was in stock...

I only seem to get the latest info off the web - and no sales-pitch thrown in.

I hope that some new info comes out soon.

If someone ordered one now, isnt there the possibility that the order could be pushed to an '08 model? would the price stay as set at the time of ordering? what if you don't like the newer model (no very likely to happen - I am just asking for sake of curiousity) do you lose out any of your money you'd put down?


Unless you ordered something super special you should expect to still get the 2007 model if it was already ordered. I believe ordering of custom 2007s is probably closed by now.

Your best bet on a good sales experience is to find out who a fleet salesman is at your dealership of choice. I worked directly with a fleet salesman to order my Commander and had the best vehicle buying experience that one could expect. In fact when my friend went to buy her Wrangler Unlimited I called him up and her work with her. She too said it was the best buying experience. The fleet salespeople are typically more knowledgable, are not pushy, etc.

And no, if your order was not fulfilled under a 2007 build and you didn't want the 2008, they can not keep any money (they are not fulfilling their end of the contract so they must refund it in full).

Here is the reviews I refer too:

EPINIONS (http://www.epinions.com/content_262027710084)


An excript from a memo at Chrysler:

Higher gas prices and interest rates have impacted consumer spending habits. However, Chrysler's lower June targets may have more to do with how its vehicles are being received in the marketplace, Merkle said.

"They're going to have to tread water for a while until they get their new minivans," he said. "That will be their next big hit. A lot of the stuff that they've had just hasn't performed very well outside of the Wrangler four-door."

In the letter, Landry urged dealers to sell more Dodge Caliber and Nitro vehicles, among other newer models.

"We can sell more Caliber," the letter reads. "It is perfect for the U.S. market. Sebring and Avenger are great vehicles, and we need your help to advertise them locally Compass and Nitro need a push from both of us."


That story Here (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070625/AUTO01/706250345/1148/AUTO01)

There are a couple more comments but I can't locate them... The Nitro might be selling OK, but it wasn't the hit that everyone thought it would be for the Dodge brand. This I feel is going to reflect poorly on the new KK as it will mirror most of the dimensions of the Nitro.

Not everyone is enamored with the Dodge Nitro-like nose. The new Liberty is more likely to hurt Commander sales than Patriot sales since its styling is closer to the Commander's.

The Patriot hurt Liberty sales for those who wanted a neoclassic Jeep look and general functionality (Cherokee). I doubt that the new Liberty will change that dynamic... because the Patriot is still the Patriot.

The Commander will be discontinued and I was informed that the model will be stopped 4 months early. That means it will stop production in 1st quarter of 2009. (about 1year 8months).

The Patriot never hurt Liberty sales. Liberty sales have been in a slump since last year. Gas prices, not real changes to model, and 2008 release made sales slip. 820,000+ Liberties were sold since they came out (2002 model). The Patriot does look great to pick up sales though and I suspect it will begin to be a top affordable pick for many people who want the Jeep brand.


My guess is that the next generation Grand Cherokee will get front end styling much like the Trailhawk concept vehicle -- more agressive and sporty looking.

While fuel economy is a big thing and everyone is looking at crossovers etc., Chrysler will still need to produce full sized uniframe (vs. unibody) vehicle for those who need to tow heavier loads and for those who need 7-passenger seating. I would expect that the Commander will move off the Grand Cherokee architecture (hence the rumors that it was going away) and go to a shortened version of the next-generation Durango platform.

TrailHawk concept styling is a look into the future of GC. Commander is on its way out and Jeep needs a TRUCK!! I'll be waiting for the Gladiator.

I also don't believe the Patriot could hurt the Liberty.

I had a wrangler but we were looking for a small SUV with good gas. We were about to buy a Toyota RAV4 until I found out about the Patriot. We never considered the Liberty.

Good on Gas + Liberty = "in your dreams"