In German for 2.0 CRD used in both Compass and Patriot in Europe
http://www.jeep.de/compass/motoren/20_crd.html


And now for the same 2.0 CRD engine info for patriot translated via babelfish

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jeep.de%2Fcompass%2Fmotoren%2 F20_crd.html

Who leads an eventful life, needs a car, which can keep up. No problem for the jeep. Compass with its strong 2,0 l-diesel engine. It inspires not only surprised with its enormous torque, which maximum driving fun offers, but owing to its modern direkteinspritzung also with minimum consumption. The 2,0 l-diesel engine carries 103 KW out (140 HP) and connects impressing strength with amazing efficiency. (fuel consumption combined: 6.5 l/100 km, CO Emission combines: 177 g/km.) *

* The indicated values were determined after the prescribed measuring procedure (guideline 80/1268/EWG in the at present valid version). The data refer not to an individual vehicle and are not a not component of the offer, but serve alone comparison purposes between different motor vehicle types.

Further information to the official fuel consumption and the official specific CO Emissions of new passenger cars can the "manual over the fuel consumption and the CO Emissions new passenger car "to be taken, which is free of charge available at all sales offices and with the German automobile trust GmbH.

For you US guys it might be better to check Jeep Britains website:

http://www.jeep.co.uk/jeep/versions.aspx?ID=998,35,177

There you can find more informations about the Diesel Compass.

The Nickname of the 2.0 TDi Diesel engine is called Rumpeldüse "rumbleengine" wich means itīs very loud if the engine is cold and the engine noise is still present when itīs warm.
It doesnīt have power below 1800 rpms but above you get a real kick boost until 3000 rpms. some like it some not but it could make it difficult to start an cold car hill upwards.
The engine quality vary from good to bad. Some ran hundert thousands of kms without any trouble but iīve heard that some got oil leaks or more worse uneexpected engine deads early after few years.
Conclusion:
On the good side is low gas consumption and boost power between 1800-3000 rmps
On the bad side is engine noise and sometimes unexpected engine trouble.

Rends

I think I would wait until DCX sources from someone other than VW. Unexpected engine trouble is to be expected.

I donīt think that Jeep will get a different Diesel in the next few years.

the VW diesel engine is an old one, and that's why it has that critics. I suppose that in the next few years (1-2) will be replaced by a modern bluetec engine

My concern from the United States is that the 2.0L diesel is a relatively rare engine here and DCX has a habit of dropping diesels after short production runs. If this engine is ever used in the U.S. or Canada, will parts availability become an issue?

I would love to see DCX commit to a diesel engine family for the U.S.. Until then it is not an option for me.

Well itīs not realy that old. Sure the develloppment and introduction was some years ago but was evolved over time again and again.
I donīt think that parts avaiability will be a problem ever. the engine was produced hundrethousands times in the last years.

I wonder why they didnīt use a Mercedes Diesel but i guess that Daimler have a hands on it not sharing to much technology over to Chrysler. That would make sence since we know that Chrysler should be sold now.

Anyway, if Chrysler wonīt use itīs own develloped Diesel (did they already?) the VW engine will be used for the next at least 2-3 years.

Hi Rends, My comments were for the U.S. and Canada. The diesel Patriot is not being offered in North America (Canada correct me if I am wrong). While a very common engine elsewhere, VW did not sell many in the U.S.. You cannot go into the local parts store here and find stuff. Need to go to VW and hope they have the part in stock. In the U.S. Jeep has a habit of offering a sourced diesel for a year or two and then dropping it. I don't think the decision to not provide in-house DCX engines was due to any ownership changes but more so they did not have the right engine for the job. I believe the Grand Cherokee is using a DCX diesel.

Yes i need to remember that Car sales in Us works somewhat different than in Germany. Here most dealers offers new cars from one brand or company only.
So if you want to go for a VW you visit the VW Dealer if you want a Jeep you go to the Jeep Dealer. If you want a BMW you go to the BMW dealer and so on.
They also donīt have that many cars in the shop. The have some dozens new cars there so you go in talk to the dealer what you want and than you have to wait until itīs build.

Well i think that the current 4Cyl Mercedes Diesel would fit well in the Jeep but i know that the VW Diesel is also used in Mitsubishi Outlanders and other brands.
Maybe Jeep will introduce a new Diesel for the US market and and use the VW one for other regions.

i know that the VW Diesel is also used in Mitsubishi Outlanders and other brands.
Maybe Jeep will introduce a new Diesel for the US market and and use the VW one for other regions.

If you read reviews on the new Outlander for example you will see that the VW 2.0L diesel is an interim solution until the introduction of a more powerful, modern and quiet 2.2L diesel. At last here in Europe.

If you read reviews on the new Outlander for example you will see that the VW 2.0L diesel is an interim solution until the introduction of a more powerful, modern and quiet 2.2L diesel. At last here in Europe.

The only other Diesel i know about making it to the Outlander Platform in the future is a french one from Citroen/Peugeot. Citroen/Peugout wants to sale small modified Outlanders with their own brand badges. So Mitsubishi can use the French Diesel anytime in the future too.

I donīt believe that Jeep can use these Diesels too.

I donīt think that Jeep will get a different Diesel in the next few years.
2.2L will replace Patriot 2.0L...

Thanks for posting this.






For you US guys it might be better to check Jeep Britains website:

http://www.jeep.co.uk/jeep/versions.aspx?ID=998,35,177tires (http://www.discountpartcenter.com/)cars (http://www.dpccars.com/)

There you can find more informations about the Diesel Compass.

The Nickname of the 2.0 TDi Diesel engine is called Rumpeldüse "rumbleengine" wich means itīs very loud if the engine is cold and the engine noise is still present when itīs warm.
It doesnīt have power below 1800 rpms but above you get a real kick boost until 3000 rpms. some like it some not but it could make it difficult to start an cold car hill upwards.
The engine quality vary from good to bad. Some ran hundert thousands of kms without any trouble but iīve heard that some got oil leaks or more worse uneexpected engine deads early after few years.
Conclusion:
On the good side is low gas consumption and boost power between 1800-3000 rmps
On the bad side is engine noise and sometimes unexpected engine trouble.

Rends

The Nickname of the 2.0 TDi Diesel engine is called Rumpeldüse "rumbleengine" wich means itīs very loud if the engine is cold and the engine noise is still present when itīs warm.

Certainly noisy when it's cold but generally once it's warmed up it's not that noticable. More interestingly the Jeep UK sites quotes the noise of the engine 70dB for the diesel and 72dB for the Petrol...go figure.

Acording to my salesman Compass is to be re-introduced in UK with 2.2 Merc-Benz Diesel!

Acording to my salesman Compass is to be re-introduced in UK with 2.2 Merc-Benz Diesel!
Hope that!
Yesterday morning, within site of the Jeep Patriot (Italy) appeared a statement: short the new technical specifications...
These days there is also a very interesting sales campaign that will last until the end of March.
Maybe in April there will be (good) news?

I can confirm I heard the same thing from my dealer about the 2.2 Merc engine appearing in the Patriot, but not until the summer I think.

No mention of a Compass relaunch though.

Jonathan

Same here guys, my dealer confirmed the merc 2.2 and gave me a leaflet with the specs. Ill be selling mine and getting the new one!

When I bought my Patriot, the dealer also had a used, low mileage Liberty with the CRD Diesel. I think it was a VM Motori 2.8L? Anyway, I was tempted to get the Diesel Liberty instead. It would have been about the same payments. On the test drive though I could not believe how loud the engine was. It drove great, had plenty of power but I thought they forgot to put any firewall sound proofing in.

And salesmen never lie. lol Sorry, I just had to do that. I hope it's true though.

Hi I have a uk spec patriot sport crd and have fitted a performance/ economy chip and this has mad a vast difference to the useability of the car. It no longer has such a flat spot and pulls fine from 1150 revs up, with a surge at around 2000. power is up to 165 bhp and torque is a healthy 265lb/ft. It feels like a different car.
Alan.

Yea the 2litre CRD is ripe for chipping---I considered it on mine but never got around to it. I mentioned it to the Tech supervisor & he said it shouldnt affect the warranty as long as it was proffesionaly fitted by a reputable company!

Hi I have a uk spec patriot sport crd and have fitted a performance/ economy chip and this has mad a vast difference to the useability of the car. It no longer has such a flat spot and pulls fine from 1150 revs up, with a surge at around 2000. power is up to 165 bhp and torque is a healthy 265lb/ft. It feels like a different car.
Alan.

What chip (manufacturer) exactly do you use?

Hi, I've heard of that chip, but what make is it please??????? manufacturer????
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http://www.startech.de/CJD/Preisliste_Pricelist_JEEP_Patriot_Lo_2008-11.pdf

if you ask VW-Audi owners or mechanics about this engine,they say it is one of the most reliable diesel VAG ever built,so i guess it was a good choice.
the thing is they switched to the mercedes 2.2 because the VAG 2.0 is EURO4 and from 2010 EURO5 emission regulations apply throughout the EU.