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post #31 of 50 (permalink) Old 12-28-2016, 06:09 PM
 
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agreed. I bought a whole truck for way less than any side by side goes for. and its a whole freaking truck!.

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I was looking at the chevy tahoe just a second ago. I guess it comes standard with a rear locking diff. They have an off road package that includes skid plates tow hooks and a low range gear. Sounds like quite the vehicle. Pricing it at 55k new I see a used one for 38k. I guess at least someone makes the vehicle that has a 3rd row with off road capability.
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Nevermind, the tahoe has despicable ground clearance at 7.9 inches. For a vehicle that size, it really needs more.

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Nevermind, the tahoe has despicable ground clearance at 7.9 inches. For a vehicle that size, it really needs more.
Where is that measured from? center diff of the rear axle? then its not that bad. if its from an easily removed chin spoiler? then remove the chin spoiler. I know the new off road colorado has a huge chin spoiler on the front that kills its off road performance, and people just remove it. my dad takes his stock tahoe into crazy places. not places I take my XJ, but plenty crazy for a vehicle that big.

that's my biggest issue with all of the current 7 passenger SUVs they are HUGE! I cannot imagine taking such a big vehicle to the places I take my XJ to wheel. even if it is lifted on larger tires. There are too many places it would never be able to turn around.

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I totally forgot about the true 7 person off road champion... The 4Runner. I think that you can't get the trd pro package with 7 passengers but I am sure even without it, it would still do well. Now if people would just bring down those used prices... It also has terrible gas milage for a vehicle its size (much smaller than the tahoe)
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I totally forgot about the true 7 person off road champion... The 4Runner. I think that you can't get the trd pro package with 7 passengers but I am sure even without it, it would still do well. Now if people would just bring down those used prices... It also has terrible gas milage for a vehicle its size (much smaller than the tahoe)
How do you configure it with 3 rows? I would have suggested one, but I cannot figure out on the website what config gets the three rows, so figured it was no longer available as such.

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How do you configure it with 3 rows? I would have suggested one, but I cannot figure out on the website what config gets the three rows, so figured it was no longer available as such.
It says its an option on the sr5 trim, sr5 premium, and limited. Not sure why they don't want it on their off roading trims. But even the sr5 base model is an upgrade off roading than the patriot with the low range gear transfer case and more ground clearance.
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It says its an option on the sr5 trim, sr5 premium, and limited. Not sure why they don't want it on their off roading trims. But even the sr5 base model is an upgrade off roading than the patriot with the low range gear transfer case and more ground clearance.
Got you, well there is your answer then I don't think there is ANY room behind that 3rd row, but at least it will be factory. I think you're probably better off buying new, than used at a dealer, if you must go used find somebody desperate to off load one on CL. they command so much money around here. Its like wranglers, They go UP in value during the first year or so after they are sold, before they start to come down.

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Got you, well there is your answer then I don't think there is ANY room behind that 3rd row, but at least it will be factory. I think you're probably better off buying new, than used at a dealer, if you must go used find somebody desperate to off load one on CL. they command so much money around here. Its like wranglers, They go UP in value during the first year or so after they are sold, before they start to come down.
Around here wranglers are by far the most expensive used vehicle. They are almost as expensive as some luxury cars used. The only bad thing about the 4runner is they have terrible gas consumption.

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The most capable 7 seater offroad that is somewhat affordable is hands down the land Rover LR4. It was made up until a month ago and even though its a Gas guzzler it has unreal off road capabilities (even with the basic package) and stadium seating. It also has some of the best ride height and approach angles for off-roading. I bet you could find a good one for less than 30 000$. It was also ranked top 10 vehicles that hold their value the most. Last it is one of the few vehicles that still have that classic boxy look, a true land rover.

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Here is something maybe worth waiting for. Ford is bringing back the ford ranger line, and they have an SUV sold in other countries not sold here based off the ranger, called the Everest. So its a truck based SUV, holds 7, and price would be ford prices, so probably reasonable?


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Here is something maybe worth waiting for. Ford is bringing back the ford ranger line, and they have an SUV sold in other countries not sold here based off the ranger, called the Everest. So its a truck based SUV, holds 7, and price would be ford prices, so probably reasonable?


https://www.ford.com.au/suv/everest/
Wow that thing is quite the vehicle. I would own it now if I could. It has a locking rear diff and almost 9 inches of clearance. No transfer case though. Looks to be better overall than the 4runner because it actually is somewhat efficent. I would love to see them offer these vehicles in the US but we are stupid when it comes to diesel engines. I guess we would rather use a less efficient gas engine than diesel.
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are you sure it has no t-case? based off the ranger, I would assume that it does, and it shows a "4x4 Low" button in one of the pictures.

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2016 Ford Everest Trend Review | CarAdvice

This review says it has low range. I can only assume that being rwd, that means a transfer case of some kind.

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Well those Ausies have it good. Would like to see the ranger in the US. I don't see why the grand cherokee doesn't have a 3rd row option. I would think it would have enough room for a couple seats for kids.

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