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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 02-04-2009, 02:23 PM Thread Starter
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Well I just ordered a 2009 2x4 manual Patriot. I noticed that there has been some discussion regarding the need/requirement of an engine oil cooler to tow 2000 lbs. Well, that package is not available on the 2009 Patriot for some unknown reason unless you get the off-road group which is expensive(is available on the Compass). I would think that towing 2000 lbs. with the 2.4 would be OK if one uses a little common sense and care not to excessively strain the engine and overheat the oil and water. Has anyone towed more than 1000 lbs. and what was the result? Also, would 100% synthetic oil be a better choice when towing? Thanks!!

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if you go through mopar's site they do have an engine oil cooler for towing for the 09 patriot...i think it's like $15 and comes with an installation guide? i'm probably going to be moving from NC to RI an will definitely be installing the oil cooling kit as well as a trailer hitch & wiring kit because i got the 4x2 limited w/CVT II that offers no towing or anything

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You cannot tow more than 1000 lbs without the engine oil cooler. (You will be forever slowing down and pulling over) I know someone who towed roughly 1500 lbs and the engine overheated quickly.

The engine oil cooler does a surprising job at keeping things at a reasonable temperature. You should be able to have an engine oil cooler added. Regarding sythetic oil, if you fall into maintenance schedule "B" then a synthetic oil does help. 5w-30 Penzoil Platinium would be my recommendation.

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Well I just ordered a 2009 2x4 manual Patriot. I noticed that there has been some discussion regarding the need/requirement of an engine oil cooler to tow 2000 lbs. Well, that package is not available on the 2009 Patriot for some unknown reason unless you get the off-road group which is expensive(is available on the Compass). I would think that towing 2000 lbs. with the 2.4 would be OK if one uses a little common sense and care not to excessively strain the engine and overheat the oil and water. Has anyone towed more than 1000 lbs. and what was the result? Also, would 100% synthetic oil be a better choice when towing? Thanks!!

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Well I just ordered a 2009 2x4 manual Patriot. I noticed that there has been some discussion regarding the need/requirement of an engine oil cooler to tow 2000 lbs. Well, that package is not available on the 2009 Patriot for some unknown reason unless you get the off-road group which is expensive(is available on the Compass). I would think that towing 2000 lbs. with the 2.4 would be OK if one uses a little common sense and care not to excessively strain the engine and overheat the oil and water. Has anyone towed more than 1000 lbs. and what was the result? Also, would 100% synthetic oil be a better choice when towing? Thanks!!
Bought the kit for 2009, defintely a wise investment for $110 (dealer asks $149) installation is relatively simple. Why take the chance? Some say it's not needed or seems like a useless piece of mechanics, I say protect your investments, ie your jeep AND whatever it is your towing by being properly equipped.

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anyone tried it

So has anyone tried towing 2000 lbs with the liberty? It seems like the horse power would be inadequate to tow that much.
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Bought the kit for 2009, defintely a wise investment for $110 (dealer asks $149) installation is relatively simple. Why take the chance? Some say it's not needed or seems like a useless piece of mechanics, I say protect your investments, ie your jeep AND whatever it is your towing by being properly equipped.
Do you know what the part number is for the oil cooler? If so would it be the same for a 4x4 manual? Thanks.

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Do you know what the part number is for the oil cooler? If so would it be the same for a 4x4 manual? Thanks.

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You cannot tow more than 1000 lbs without the engine oil cooler. (You will be forever slowing down and pulling over) I know someone who towed roughly 1500 lbs and the engine overheated quickly.

The engine oil cooler does a surprising job at keeping things at a reasonable temperature. You should be able to have an engine oil cooler added. Regarding sythetic oil, if you fall into maintenance schedule "B" then a synthetic oil does help. 5w-30 Penzoil Platinium would be my recommendation.

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I wouldn't use Penzoil if my life depended on it. Oh wait, it does!
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I have the Oil Cooler stock with my veh. We drove from NH to IL 4 full size adults, lots of luggage, summer time heat, straight drive only stopping for gas... My oil temp never hit the 1/2 way mark!!! YUP it was just below the 1/2 all the way there and on the way back. Granted I wasnt towing anything but still, seems to work.

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Is this the same for the 4x4 version????

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Here'S a pdf file that shows how to install for manual or automatic. Step by step with illustrations
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http://www.mopar-accessories.com/en-...r.ashx?id=2147

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I have the Oil Cooler stock with my veh. We drove from NH to IL 4 full size adults, lots of luggage, summer time heat, straight drive only stopping for gas... My oil temp never hit the 1/2 way mark!!! YUP it was just below the 1/2 all the way there and on the way back. Granted I wasnt towing anything but still, seems to work.
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I would love to have a temp sensor and readout at radiator input and output for coolant temp, and one on the oil cooler input and output.

Knowing what the temps are before the fluid goes into the engine or oil cooler to absorb the heat is useless, but it would still be interesting to know just how much heat the cooling system takes away and how it is affected by the Air conditioner.

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I just towed a 5x7 UHaul (900 lbs) with roughly another 1000lbs in the back. Made several trips back and forth total about 500 miles. With the AC on my temp gauge never went over half. Felt fine towing. I kept it under 65. I ordered the tow package with my 08 so i have the cooler. I would definitely order that cooler for the 09 if you planned on doing any towing at all.
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