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Want to get the most out of my Patriot.

Hey everyone. Ive have a 2016 patriot and im looking to see if there is anything i can get to increase the HP. I'm quite the virgin when it comes to this stuff, so im having a little bit of a hard time finding what i need online. Any suggestions? Chips? Parts?

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Hey everyone. Ive have a 2016 patriot and im looking to see if there is anything i can get to increase the HP. I'm quite the virgin when it comes to this stuff, so im having a little bit of a hard time finding what i need online. Any suggestions? Chips? Parts?



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Welcome, and a cold air intake I have one it gives it an extra 6hp, which it isn't much but u can feel it. Other than that I might have to chip it but idk about those



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There are basically no performance mods for this vehicle. The Patriot was built for fuel economy and the like.

Some people have put on exhausts and CAI's and state it makes a difference, I'm sure it might, but i think it would be negligible at best. If they can prove it does then kudos, but I'd like to see the difference on a dyno sheet.

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First off welcome to the site!

Second, not to rain on your parade, but I'll ditto BLKJ33P. The factory has engineers who have pretty much maxed out what 2.4L can give you. Any improvements from a CIA or chip are probably more placebo than reality. Its like adding fuel treatment then driving like a flying rodent from the underworld and saying Wow! Feel the power! In reality its just because you're driving it harder.

The only practical and affordable step you might take is to flash the ECM and then drive it hard. The Patriot will learn your driving style and give you more of what you want. Just be careful what you wish for -- you'll likely find a corresponding drop in fuel economy.
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Thank you very much, glad to be here!

Ahh I had a feeling it was pretty maxed out for a 2.4. But thanks for answering my suspicion! And for the ECM suggestion.
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First off, you have a beautiful looking Patriot dude.

What kind of air intake did you put in it? And did you do it yourself?
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the patriot already has a CAI, it takes are from right at the front edge of the hood. You cannot get any better than that.

I have yet to actually see somebody do a before/after dyno of doing a CAI on a patriot, but I bet it has exactly 0 change in performance. These engines are very closely controlled by the electronics, in fact the throttle itself is not even controlled by your foot, its controlled by a computer brain, so the position of your foot on the throttle tells the computer how much fuel/air mixture you want, and then the computer figures it out. Even if a "CAI" (they are usually anything but, since they tend to pull air from behind the radiator) can pull more air, the computer system still controls how much of that air actually gets to the engine. so a CAI/exhaust/magic fairy dust does NOTHING until somebody actually does something about the computer software. Once again, I have never seen someone actually tune these engines, The ECU is locked up like lindsay lohan. My parents have a suzuki Kisashi with the exact same cvt/ 2.4l world engine. It has more HP because they tuned it differently, and the ecu on that is open, and tunes can be found from across the ocean. and you can get a bit more HP from them, not much though.

Things you can do to ACTUALLY affect performance:
1) Reduce weight. the less weight your engine has to pull around, the better. Yank the back seats out, ditch the spare tire, radio, interior plastics, sound deadening materials, carpet, etc.

2) Skinnier tires that are lighter than factory tires. Unsprung mass is a performance killer. big wheels and fat rubber kill performance. Usually you find these are cars with excess power. On cars that are light on power, reduce that unsprung mass!

3) keep up on tune ups and the like. Fresh oil keeping friction down, proper spark plugs on recommended change intervals, etc.

4) purchase an aftermarket ECU and pay for a custom tune (cost will be in excess of $5000). probably not worth it for the 10-15 extra horsepower you'll get.
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Hey Endboss, welcome!

The only off the shelf "tuner" for the Patriot I know of is from Roadrace motorsports for 2012+ Patriots at $499.00. I don't know of anyone who has ever used it, or if would work for your 2016, but you could contact them and see what they have to say.

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To give you an idea of how much they've gotten out of the 2.4 consider this: my first car was a 1960 Ford Falcon. Lovable, but moved at a glacial pace. It had 85 brake hp and 135'# torque. Our 2.4 puts out 172 net hp and 175'# torque . . . with two fewer cylinders! Identical displacement, easily double the power and 30% more torque.

There was a thread on here a few years ago about someone who tried to put a turbo on his Patriot. I'm not sure it all came together. That would certainly put out more power, but probably requires significant alterations to other part of the vehicle -- engine bearings, transmission, etc. Probably need a different ECM, too.
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