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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 04-18-2017, 11:48 AM Thread Starter
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Hello. I am a new Patriot owner and new to forums like this. I am wondering if anyone could give me advice on an issue I have at speeds over 60 mph. Hard to explain but it seems to move back and forth, sorta drift, and I find myself correcting a lot. It's not a shimmy, it's not a wobble. It increases when conditions are wet and when cornering I feel like the back end keeps going around and the front straightens out. I have new tires and alignment (4 days ago) and new brakes, rotors, drums. I was hoping the tires and alignment would correct the issue but it has not. Taking to dealership this week (warranty runs out soon). Any advice???
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What condition are the shocks/struts? I would hope a good tire/brake shop would check those out. Does this have anything to do with 4x4 settings; i.e., 4x4 lock; esp partially on, etc.?

Back in the early days of the Patriot--the "hood flapping" issue was big, and many of us took our rigs over the "century mark" to see if that situation would happen, so I know for a fact, that a Patriot will handle quite well at highway speeds exceeding most states' legal limits....
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I'd still bet on the tires. I'm running an older set of oversized GY Wranglers and at 70mph I do feel a bit of a wander, but nothing alarming. My Grand Prix was far more stable but there are tradeoffs between cars, trucks, SUVs & CUVs, and the Pontiac had much better tires (Michelin Harmony). A vehicle can't do everything perfectly. I think my Patriot is about as stable as the Bravada I once had. In a straight line the Bravada was OK, but after 80 (only once in an emergency) the Bravada was a bit challenging to handle. Again, it may have been the tires.
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What condition are the shocks/struts?
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Stock rear shocks were notorious for being weak and failing early, some as soon as 20k miles.
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Stock rear shocks were notorious for being weak and failing early, some as soon as 20k miles.
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Car parked, push side and see if oscillations die quickly.
If not, check shock absorbers.

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Hello. I am a new Patriot owner and new to forums like this. I am wondering if anyone could give me advice on an issue I have at speeds over 60 mph. Hard to explain but it seems to move back and forth, sorta drift, and I find myself correcting a lot. It's not a shimmy, it's not a wobble. It increases when conditions are wet and when cornering I feel like the back end keeps going around and the front straightens out. I have new tires and alignment (4 days ago) and new brakes, rotors, drums. I was hoping the tires and alignment would correct the issue but it has not. Taking to dealership this week (warranty runs out soon). Any advice???
Hi PBOO11,

Keep me updated on your dealership appointment, I'd be happy to offer further assistance if needed!

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I keep getting told the problem is the nut behind the wheel. I don't understand it. I've replaced it twice!!!


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This is the first time I’m seeing someone from the Jeep dealerships come in here to monitor the situation and it's a good thing to see that they're so on the ball. In any case, let's look forward to some updates from Pboo11 and see what the answer is after he gets it looked at!
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This is the first time I’m seeing someone from the Jeep dealerships come in here to monitor the situation and it's a good thing to see that they're so on the ball. In any case, let's look forward to some updates from Pboo11 and see what the answer is after he gets it looked at!
JeepCares are our "resident angels" from FCA that help Patriot owners with hard-to-solve problems. From what I've seen they must take on a couple cases a day.

FCA may have realized that a company is only as strong as their dealer network, and car dealers as a species don't have a good reputation.
Some are excellent, but not usually the cheapest, which is what many car buyers are looking for.
Some are well-intentioned but can't solve a particular problem.
Some are frankly notorious for all the sneaky tricks in the trade.

I think JeepCares is a wise investment on the company's part, providing customer advocates to stand behind their customers.

Many companies are using 'Social Care Specialists' to monitor what gets said on social networking sites like facebook, this site, and other such sites. We see thread bombers who only ever post once making some outrageous claim that their Patriot is a bucket of bolts and then disappear. If a problem is legitimate a good social care rep will see to it that the problem is satisfactorily resolved. I'm sure they also have to weed through people who just want to whine over nothing or who can't understand that after awhile vehicles do need fixing.
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