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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-31-2010, 04:48 PM Thread Starter
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The left headlight of my jeep patriot does not work, and it's not the bulb or fuse. I took the car into the dealership and they said the problem was the TIPM or totally intergrated power module. The TIPM would need to be replaced and would cost me $900 for parts and labor. My question is how hard would this be to replace myself. I have some car repair experience. I would need to know where to get the part, and how to replace it? I was also wondering if a find a used part for either a patriot, compass, or caliber if that would work? I understand that after I install the TIPM I would need to have the dealership program it, I'm just looking for the least expensive way to go about this.
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Hook in two relays off the right headlights low and high beam to power on the left. No new TIPM needed! Of course it's a tad ghetto and it would probably be better to replace the TIPM.

Why would there even need to be computer control of the headlights though?

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Hook in two relays off the right headlights low and high beam to power on the left. No new TIPM needed! Of course it's a tad ghetto and it would probably be better to replace the TIPM.

Why would there even need to be computer control of the headlights though?
I know this an old post. I'm having the same issues on my wife's 07 with the passenger light. I might swap out the TIPM after I make sure that's the issue. Is there any kind of programming the stealership needs to perform, or can I do this on my own?
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Google is your friend - there are no replacement TIPM's available. Unless Fly By Night Auto Sales - Parts Division, happens to be be available in your (neighbour) 'hood.
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Google is your friend - there are no replacement TIPM's available. Unless Fly By Night Auto Sales - Parts Division, happens to be be available in your (neighbour) 'hood.
You sure about that? Google is your friend. Search and you shall find replacement TIPM's. I can get a new TIPM from my local dealer for $600, non-dealers sell them as well for about $400. Summit Racing sells them for $332. Carid sells them for $366.

Based on your statement. If these are not available, how does one pass an inspection? Since none are available is Chrysler buying back cars since they're impossible to license now? Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying?
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You sure about that? Google is your friend. Search and you shall find replacement TIPM's. I can get a new TIPM from my local dealer for $600, non-dealers sell them as well for about $400. Summit Racing sells them for $332. Carid sells them for $366.

Based on your statement. If these are not available, how does one pass an inspection? Since none are available is Chrysler buying back cars since they're impossible to license now? Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying?
Had this issue with my magnum for unavailable parts.. they have to make parts for so many years after production year but if they say it's on back order it changes everything. . Back order is basically a way of saying it may become available without actually producing the product anymore..
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Had this issue with my magnum for unavailable parts.. they have to make parts for so many years after production year but if they say it's on back order it changes everything. . Back order is basically a way of saying it may become available without actually producing the product anymore..
My local dealer has one sitting on the shelf. I just don't want to spend the money on one of these. I was able to tap into the TIPM last night and found it had 3 stored codes. All of which were associated with low and high beam circuit faults. We erased the codes, and they cam back instantly. I'm going to try to find a way to get rid of the running lights, add two relays, and jump the wires across to the other side.
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I know this an old post. I'm having the same issues on my wife's 07 with the passenger light. I might swap out the TIPM after I make sure that's the issue. Is there any kind of programming the stealership needs to perform, or can I do this on my own?
I conducted tests with a voltmeter and found that an open ground was the problem.
I then used a "Tap in squeeze connector" to ground the black neutral to the car ground.
The headlamp cables are short thus making it a little difficult to attach the "Tap in" connector.
Headlamp extension cables are available on ebay for several dollars for a pair.
The extension cables would make it easier to conduct voltage tests, apply "tap in" connectors or bridge the two headlamps.
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No it isn't a warranty item. However , I was told today that a recall is coming. Right I'll believe that when the bartender in Hell asks me if i want my
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No - no warranty. It falls under electrical that is only covered for 36000 miles or 3 years. I fought It tooth and nail and refused to hear NO we are not covering it. I ended up getting "MOPAR ASSISTANCE" of $570 and a 44 month no mileage limit on the replacement TIPM. I ended up paying $500 for labor, diagnosis, co-pay. I am still not happy that they lied to me and said they were not aware of amy "known" issues of TIPMs in the Patriots. I wish I had seen this before I got mine fixed, after being without it for 8 weeks while waiting for the parts.

So what I am trying to tell you all is - SAVE YOR RECEIPTS. I was told today that a recall is coming. Like yeah - I said and the man nose was growing as we spoke, but I sincerley hope it s true. It shouldn't take lawsuits to make a company do the ethical and moral thing.

Not sure I will buy another Jeep since I have been told not to drive either of my vehicles far until the recall on the exploding airbags is completed (no date for that) and the TIPM in the '07 is replaced. Jeep USED to be a sturdy vehicle.
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No - no warranty. It falls under electrical that is only covered for 36000 miles or 3 years. I fought It tooth and nail and refused to hear NO we are not covering it. I ended up getting "MOPAR ASSISTANCE" of $570 and a 44 month no mileage limit on the replacement TIPM. I ended up paying $500 for labor, diagnosis, co-pay. I am still not happy that they lied to me and said they were not aware of amy "known" issues of TIPMs in the Patriots. I wish I had seen this before I got mine fixed, after being without it for 8 weeks while waiting for the parts.

So what I am trying to tell you all is - SAVE YOR RECEIPTS. I was told today that a recall is coming. Like yeah - I said and the man nose was growing as we spoke, but I sincerley hope it s true. It shouldn't take lawsuits to make a company do the ethical and moral thing.

Not sure I will buy another Jeep since I have been told not to drive either of my vehicles far until the recall on the exploding airbags is completed (no date for that) and the TIPM in the '07 is replaced. Jeep USED to be a sturdy vehicle.
A couple suggestions:
1) PM Jeep Cares on this website. I think there are a couple people who monitor that but I'd expect they'd do what they can to help.
2) Might you start a new thread on this subject? This thread goes back 6+ years and Jeep Cares may not be taking it seriously.

Agreed, saving receipts is always a wise idea. You never know when you might have a problem. This story goes back a decade, but the e-brake on our 1997 Wrangler was recalled after we'd already had the repair done at a local shop (Wrangler rolled down our driveway and into the brush/trees). Producing the repair receipt got us full reimbursement from Chrysler even a couple years after the date of the repair. On the other hand (besides 4 fingers and a thumb) we had the famous Saturn ignition switch problem. We paid for the repair but we were SOL when it was recalled because it had been repaired (at a GM dealer) using the same pre-recall parts, so the replacement switch had the same defect. GM only covered replacing the defective switch with the new switch.

Finally, don't give up on Jeep just because you got a problem. Frankly I think your TIPM problem is rare, but maybe not so rare if they are actually doing a recall on it. I once had a 1993 Cherokee with an absolutely dismal repair record; the dealership totally ignored my diagnosis on one recurring problem -- I say recurring, but if they'd accepted my diagnosis they would have fixed it on the second visit. Oh no. They knew far more than me. Each time they restated the problem so it didn't look like the same complaint and each time the problem was right back the next day. (Yes, it was the very next day -- all it had to do was cool overnight). If Wifey hadn't bought a couple Wranglers that were excellent vehicles I never would have bought another Jeep -- I was quite happy with GM. Then I stumbled onto my 2008 Patriot and I'm thoroughly impressed, so much so that we bought another that is also proving to be all I hoped it would be.

As for your last comment about Jeep not being sturdy, they were quite sturdy until the government made them start putting whoopie-cushions in the dashboards!
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