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Exclamation 3 PSI Electric Supercharger

I found myself a supercharger that seems extremely to install. It doesn't really apply much air to the engine (3 PSI) but it seems to be a good fix for just a little bit more power for a lower price. The website claims that it adds 85 horsepower but I can already tell you it's less than 35 ponies. Does anybody see the downfall to a supercharger this cheap? Link is here: http://www.superchargerswarehouse.co...Superchargers/
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I found myself a supercharger that seems extremely to install. It doesn't really apply much air to the engine (3 PSI) but it seems to be a good fix for just a little bit more power for a lower price. The website claims that it adds 85 horsepower but I can already tell you it's less than 35 ponies. Does anybody see the downfall to a supercharger this cheap? Link is here: http://www.superchargerswarehouse.co...Superchargers/
Those fans really don't work at all, in fact they end up obstructing the intake and reduce power.

The only electric supercharger I've seen on the market with any cred is this one:
http://www.phantomsuperchargers.com/

They go for around $1500.00

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mwah ha ha ha

do a search for these snake oil things
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snake oil...waste of money.
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Well, of course they work! Just keep telling yourself this same lie until you believe it. It's been said before on this forum, the 2.4L engine has been maximized for performance and economy as possible....just learn to drive "around" the "weak" areas of performance--in other words, "drive defensively!"


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Even if they did work, since the computer controls every aspect of the system, it would sense the extra air and either 1) not open the throttle body as much, or 2) go into a limp mode. both of which would prevent any added power being used.


I've said this at least a dozen times, until you are actually able to get into the cars brain, and re program it, anything you do to improve performance on the engine will be negated, or even cause worse performance. at this time, there are no available programming tools available for the MK's. You would either have to go to a custom programmer, or go after market with like a haltech.

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Correct. all these filters exhausts etc are a waste of money, and just make more noise, less power, and burn more fuel....and with aftermarket filters like k&n, oiled are bad for sensors and let more particulate through.
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They work great as circulation fans though.

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I say you go for it, screw the haters.
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I'll save you another $150.

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I say you go for it, screw the haters.
We're not haters. We just know that the product is crap.

Go to the website he listed. Look up any car on the list. LITERALLY ANY CAR. This miracle of engineering adds 80hp to anything, whether it displaces 1.5l or 7.3l. That doesn't seem remotely suspicious to you?

We're just haters, right.
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It's been said before on this forum, the 2.4L engine has been maximized for performance and economy as possible....
This is, of course, blatantly false. SRT squeezed 285 hp from the 2.4L with the use of use of forced induction.

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Yeah, they blow alright.

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Even if they did work, since the computer controls every aspect of the system, it would sense the extra air and either 1) not open the throttle body as much, or 2) go into a limp mode. both of which would prevent any added power being used.
Not entirely true. If you can truly push 3 psi into an engine the ECU will see a lean condition and add more fuel. 3 psi is barely breathing on it so the stock tune and injectors can probably keep up with minimal risk. Hell, up here in Denver 3 psi would just about get us back to sea level performance (sea level atmosphere is something like 14.7 psi, 5,000 feet is about 12.2 psi. So by your logic if I drive down to sea level my Jeep will either make less power or go into limp mode. Clearly that doesn't happen because my Jeep still runs when I take it up to 13,000 feet where atmosphere is somewhere between 8.5 and 10 psi and then back to 5,000 ft. I do notice a loss of power at altitude though and while I haven't taken my TJ to sea level, I've had many cars I've driven from elevation to sea level and I see a noticeable increase in power, but never a limp mode condition.

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