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post #31 of 268 (permalink) Old 05-16-2015, 09:10 PM Thread Starter
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I have a 195*

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I was able to break 2 bolts free then the 2nd 2 I couldn't break lose/keep the pulley still.

As for the temp/burping. I am gonna take a couple days off working on the thing and then try to get more air out of the system & get it out of the driveway for the first time to see how the temp fairs while driving around.
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Okay, I'm assuming the fan is still on. If so, the big hex nut behind the fan is going to be a good point to use as an anchor. Put a big crescent wrench on it and hold it with the force being clockwise (looking toward the engine), and then use closed end of a combination wrench to try and bust the bolts loose. If the fan is off, and it's just the pulley and bolts left, find you a oil filter wrench (the ones with the strap) and maybe a strip of leather around the pulley for grip. Wrap the leather around the pulley and then put the oil filter wrench over the leather so that the filter wrench tightens in a clockwise manner. While you have this set up, use the closed end of the combo wrench to try and bust the pulley bolts loose.

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Okay, I'm assuming the fan is still on. If so, the big hex nut behind the fan is going to be a good point to use as an anchor. Put a big crescent wrench on it and hold it with the force being clockwise (looking toward the engine), and then use closed end of a combination wrench to try and bust the bolts loose. If the fan is off, and it's just the pulley and bolts left, find you a oil filter wrench (the ones with the strap) and maybe a strip of leather around the pulley for grip. Wrap the leather around the pulley and then put the oil filter wrench over the leather so that the filter wrench tightens in a clockwise manner. While you have this set up, use the closed end of the combo wrench to try and bust the pulley bolts loose.

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Fans on and wont come off unless those pulley bolts come off. That hex bolt is round on mine didn't notice the difference. Also the fan spins seperatly from the pulley. So if you stop the fan from spinning the pulley will still spin. I spent a good amount of time trying to get that thing to come off. Tried clamping it to something too but there is nothing near by
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Okay, hmmmm...
That means the nut to remove the fan must be in front of the fan itself. No biggie.
The whole goal is to stop the fan pulley from spinning. You could also do a couple of things: you could take the old belt (if you replaced it) and cut it to where it is just a long strip. Take that strip and wrap it (once again in a clockwise manner) around the fan pulley. After the belt is wrapped around the pulley, you should have a tail from the belt on the top side of the pulley trailing toward the driver side. Take your combo wrench and apply tension counter clockwise, all while applying tension to the cut belt. The belt will cinch up a little bit, and once it has stopped, try to break the bolts free.

The fan and the fan clutch shaft will turn freely, so no matter how much pressure or how you grab it, it will still turn. If you have air tools, that is a good way to help bust a tight bolt loose.

I learned the belt trick from poverty...lol
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wow AIC, that is an expensive lift kit.

Chris, congrats once again on your XJ, looks like you'll be busy for a while haha

Thanks as well for sharing your experience with us, I'm sure it'll help other potential XJ owners :-)
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Well I found out today there is a top and bottom to the Tstat I just tossed it in not knowing..... Whoops that may be part of my problem ugh. Oh well I'll get back at it on Wednesday
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wow AIC, that is an expensive lift kit.
Yeah, but I didn't pay that for it.... in fact, I didn't pay anything for it...

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Well I found out today there is a top and bottom to the Tstat I just tossed it in not knowing..... Whoops that may be part of my problem ugh. Oh well I'll get back at it on Wednesday
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Okay, hmmmm...
That means the nut to remove the fan must be in front of the fan itself. No biggie.
The whole goal is to stop the fan pulley from spinning. You could also do a couple of things: you could take the old belt (if you replaced it) and cut it to where it is just a long strip. Take that strip and wrap it (once again in a clockwise manner) around the fan pulley. After the belt is wrapped around the pulley, you should have a tail from the belt on the top side of the pulley trailing toward the driver side. Take your combo wrench and apply tension counter clockwise, all while applying tension to the cut belt. The belt will cinch up a little bit, and once it has stopped, try to break the bolts free.

The fan and the fan clutch shaft will turn freely, so no matter how much pressure or how you grab it, it will still turn. If you have air tools, that is a good way to help bust a tight bolt loose.

I learned the belt trick from poverty...lol
Gonna attempt to do this old belt is worn but I am waiting for a new one.

As for the air tools part I don't have any but if I did there is no way they would fit back there.
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Okay, sounds good! If the belt trick doesn't work, feel free to let me know, and I'll come up with more ideas for you.

If it doesn't work, if you could take several pictures of the situation on your jeep, that'll help me out a lot.
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It's alive!!!! Coolant is filed runs at 210 idle. Fan clutch is still on there and not gonna be touched. Bought a belt wrench and still couldnt get the bolts loose. Coolant is leaking out of the lower hose at the water pump looks like I put the hose clamp on crooked. Waiting for it to cool down so I can fix that atm.

Next project: Valve cover gasket.

Also noticed a little bit of oil dripping off a nut on the oil pan. Could be from the valve gasket but thinking the oil pan gasket is shot also.
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Good deal! Well, all except that fan clutch! lol

...but if it ain't broke, don't fix it! hahaha
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Nice! its too bad you're so far away, I would love to see you out and about in your XJ, hit some trails together!

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Good deal! Well, all except that fan clutch! lol

...but if it ain't broke, don't fix it! hahaha
But when it goes bad... It's still gonna be a pain to get off lmao maybe I'll have some better tools by then.

Also I've been wanting to take a trip put west.... But with the way the patriot has been acting lately I wouldn't even trust it to make the trip
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Oh no! what's wrong with your pat?

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